Thank God for the EU.
If Apple and the Americans had their way, each of those would use a different proprietary connector.
My phone, iPad, and laptop finally all use the same USB-C charger. The galaxy is at peace.
Submitted 3 weeks ago by early_riser@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
Comments
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
papalonian@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, Americans famously love having dozens of different chargers and cables to manage
draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
The reason we should thank the EU is because of this rule. While I cannot guarantee this rule is responsible, the fact that it’s mandated means it’s significantly more economically viable to use the same connector across all regions (including America), and so this rule is the primary factor in the standardization of charging cables.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
They love letting their companies do so.
schubidubiduba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
It doesn’t matter what they love in that regard, because they are incapable of making companies do things that help consumers or the environment
carrylex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
New chargers and cables = New freedom units to measure stuff with
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
They’ve got a massively institutional love for all things Charging Protocols
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
The USB standard was made by Intel and the USB-C port is based on a port designed by Apple…
draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
The EU commision did not decide on USB-C in a vacuum. It looked on already existing stanards and talked to many large electronics manufacturers in order to come to a proposal for USB-C as a universal standard. You are right to point out the role that both Intel and Apple played (Along HP, Microsoft and the USB-IF) in the development of the standard, but you’re missing the forest for the trees, since it was the EU making it a *universal * standard within it’s boarders that means we all use the same standard.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Which ‘port designed by Apple’? Apple’s Lightning is quite obviously more sturdy than usb-c, being just a puck with contacts, put into a hole with contacts and without flimsy plastic tongues. However, Lightning is more costly to produce, while afaik USB was always made from cheap sheet metal.
pedz@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’m going to add Sony to this list.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh, there are vanishingly few hardware vendors I hate with a greater burning passion than Sony. Over the span of literal decades, Sony has consistently and systematically found so many ways to piss me off that I will never give them another red cent so long as I live. I will happily pay slightly more money for a slightly inferior version of whatever gadget rather than deal with Sony’s bullshit.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
100%.
Sony has continuously sought to make money on licensing royalties for proprietary formats whenever they can.
deHaga@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Until a better option becomes available, and then being stuck with just usb c will suck
draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
The laws specified by the EU allow for future technological developments and the advancement of the standard without having to re-write the laws. The law itself includes a mandatory technical review, and allows for new standards to be integrated, and outdated standards to be dropped.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It’s not standardized on USB C. It’s standardized on whatever the USB IF standardized on. So when USB D is a think it will eventually switch to that.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The Apple who were the first to make an all-usb-c laptop?
Apple caught flak for switching iPhones from the 31-pin connector to Lightning, and obviously didn’t want to repeat the experience sooner than necessary.
Killer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They also got a cut from any 3rd party lighning cables
masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
And then took 8 years to add it to their phones? And only did so after being forced be EU regulations? And whose USB C implementation is notably more finicky and less compatible then virtually every other manufacturers’?
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
No they wouldn’t lol
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
They literally did until recently.
Apple would still be using different variants of their crappy connectors for everything, none of which were compatible with anything non-Apple, if not for the EU ruling forcing them not to.
tranquillow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
If Apple had any intention to switch to USB-C on their own, they would’ve done so with the iPhone 7.
Blueliner@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You get hit by a driverless taxi. The monkey paw curls one finger towards its palm.
PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I’m just chuckling at a USB-to-CCS converter.
scytale@piefed.zip 3 weeks ago
Must take over a month for a single charge. lol
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
Since some cars can do v2l (vehicle to load) the oppoite is a valid product, a CCS connector to USB C for driving other loads from the cars pack.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Cruise is already dead. We need to kill Tesla before it kills more of us. The rest of the actors in the autonomous vehicles space appear to be actually acting in good faith.
witty_username@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Greg@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I’m still waiting for my EV to charge with USB-C
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
USB-C can only draw 6.5A of current, and even that has its issues if the user suddenly unplugs. It’d be great for a trickle charge, but the pins are just too dinky to carry kilowatt levels of current, physics gets in the way.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
USB C +++ for extra $$$
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
The Samsung Galaxy?
early_riser@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
iPhone. The title is a reference to the opening of Super Metroid.
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I was trying to be funny. Obviously not succeeding.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
How the hell did Samus create peace throughout an entire galaxy by capturing metroids? Surely there are other things to worry about.
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I just bought a more beefy laptop and it has a special charger cable because it’s 170W :(
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
USB PD now supports up to 230W so thats on the manufacturerer being lazy, or the design having elements that are a few years old, since PD recently got that update.
I’m guessing its a lenovo, 170W is one of their bigger bricks.
But the next laptop you have might use the same charger as your ebike, so there’s that.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
The spec supports 240W, and there are lots of cables rated at that, but there are still no chargers on the market that can hit 240W.
eli@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yup, I just bought a Framework and bought their 240w charger.
Granted I bought the 13 not the 16, so it can’t use all of it, but it exists!
plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Now do yourself a favor and buy a good quality cable thats at least 10ft long and rated for 240W. The feeling of having one cable that can charge any of your devices from any seat on your couch is incredible.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Do you have a suggestion for one, please? (yes I am fully aware I could google it but that won’t give me the nuanced opinion of someone who probably already owns one)
Nighed@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Now enjoy the power brick roulette. My work laptop charger (dell) won’t do anything more than trickle charge anything else (other than my girlfriend’s Mac?!). I had to buy a new brick to get something that appears to charge everything at each devices rated speed.
Being able to charge a laptop from my monitor using the same cable that handles the display output and peripherals is cool too! (But that DOESN’T work on a Mac… It won’t pass the keyboard through!)
“Standards”!
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I bought a very small 100w Anker charger that works on everything USB c so far. I don’t carry my dell one anymore.
XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And then there’s dumb devices like flashlights that may not have the resistor that negotiates a basic rate with C ports, barring it from charging. A-C cables work because they still allow 500mA without negotiation
Gt5@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It does work, I use this exact setup at work
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My laptop takes 300w to charge. We aren’t quite there yet with USB-C. It will trickle charge off USB-C though.
funkajunk@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Jesus Christ
dynamoMaus@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
This.
Original commenter: are you using a blender as a laptop?
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Is your laptop just a PC you rest on your lap?
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are you running a toaster oven off your laptop?
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I think your laptop may actually be a Mars rover.
parzival@lemmy.org 3 weeks ago
There’s proprietary usbc implementations that can deliver 300w so were close
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Mobile workstation / gaming laptop life 😞
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
I just got an aftermarket multiport charger that supplies the voltage I need, and some handmade cables that also fit the spec and now I can have my VR headset actually charge while in use and not just while sitting turned off on the shelf.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Do they? Like the USB C standard is the most fucked up standard I’ve seen.
Flatfire@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
The standard is a collection of mostly optional features, with the only real requirements being USB 2.0 speeds and 5V1A power delivery.
However, USB-PD, the actual fast charging standard in the USB-C spec is pretty universally implemented at this point across mobile devices. At the very least, it will always fall back to the standard 5V1A if the device is stupid enough not to support anything better.
Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My tablet doesn’t support it I was so confused. I got a work laptop that I literally only use for teaching but I use it’s charger at home for everything that thing is a BEAST.
VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve been trying to do this, but the best I’ve achieved so far is having certain cords using adapters.
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Still need it for electric cars and household appliances
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Now do HDMI!
m3t00@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
think different
tdawg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Am I the only one who was never bothered by this?
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes
Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 3 weeks ago
+1 for european regulations.