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Funny how when you let conservatives have power your rights start being infringed upon.
Anyway, I wonder how Palestine is doing.
The Department of Homeland Security Is Demanding That Google Turn Over Information About Random Critics
Submitted 2 weeks ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/future-society/homeland-security-google
Comments
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Honestly dude, I cannot fucking believe people thought Trump would be better for Palestine than Kamala… I just don’t fucking understand how so many people can come to that conclusion, unless I really think about it, and then the reasons are all so sad and stupid. I swear to god the main reason, above racism, above hate, above the propaganda of the election cycle, the main reason he won over Hillary and then Kamala is that he had a TV show for many years. A lot of people over look the simple fact that in the American psyche, being on TV is validating, or at least it was when Trump was elected, before everything went upside down. People will stay in the same shitty town and keep the same toxic relatives in their lives for their wholes lives vs finding people that they actually harmonize with because they’re familiar. People who grew up in shitty households find partners like their shitty parents because the shitty behavior is familiar. “Familiar” feels like family. Trump was a household name, and some people didn’t even know Kamala had been swapped in half way through the election season. So they trusted Trump when he’d lie because he’s familiar, but they distrusted her when she seemed to avoid a subject because she’s unfamiliar and so inherently suspicious. They should have both been suspicious af, but he had a TV show and was president once before so they trusted him more… which is very fucking stupid.
frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nobody actually thought Trump would be better for Palestine. The ones that said they did were bots.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s called propaganda, and it sure worked. Divide and conquer.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I cannot fucking believe people thought Trump would be better for Palestine than Kamala…
Few did. Those of us who knew that people would stay home because of it tried to warn everyone that if Harris didn’t change course, she would lose. Centrists didn’t want to hear any of it. They either didn’t believe us or didn’t care because they wanted genocide so badly that they were willing to accept trump.
And I fully expect someone to reply to this by trying to convince me to vote for her even though I did and the election is over.
mirshafie@europe.pub 2 weeks ago
Yeah, I think you’re hitting on something important. This is probably also why people living under dictatorships sometimes approve of their dictator. The devil you know.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu 2 weeks ago
Trump had a tv show ?? new shit has come to light
EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
la derecha oprime, la izquierda libera
FAINTEDKINGS@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Trump is a peacemaker and good heart person. Who stirred up to world Definitly kamala harris. Man seriously conservatites are extremly ignorant.
And FREE PALESTİNE.
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Why are you so upset over people who have no representation in government? Your gleeful celebration of the disenfranchisement of others is your blue MAGA showing.
Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
And folks, if you haven’t de-googled yourself by now, well it’s past time.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Waylp that sucks for me. I knew about it and was lazy.
Broken@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
The best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago. The second best time is today.
arin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Degoogle dereddit
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
What is the choice. Apple?
nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
GrapheneOS, LineageOS, CalyxOS,…
It’s still Android, but it’s built off the open source base of Android.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Jeffery Epstein had a gmail account The redacted emails are in his gmail account. They should publish everything fucking now
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The creds were published on Reddit, and the feds evidently didn’t bother to activate 2FA
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I fully expect Google to comply. Thankfully, the only service of theirs that I use is Youtube.
If a civil war happens, I think a side effect is that Google’s domination over video platforms would be over. People would end up flocking towards the ones that aren’t in service to the Regime.
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
YouTube lose would be a blow. All the knowledge there that would be lost is massive. And nobody is going to replace it.
jason@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
It doesn’t seem to be as well known, but YouTube is one of the biggest distributors of blatant disinformation, and they have done fuck all about it. There are so many individual right wing disinformation channels that wield so much more power than they should. It’s so fuckin insidious. Seriously, go find one of the alt-right YouTube accounts, and just look at the comments. Not a single one will be negative. They literally police their comments, and the only thing left is sycophantic bullshit like “thank you for exposing the truth!” It’s actually disgusting. Every YouTuber can essentially build their very own echo chamber, and they do.
I know YouTube comments should generally be ignored, but when you see something that is intentionally, blatantly misleading, a single sentence comment could be all that is required to pierce the veil. It’s axiomatic at this point that their bullshit doesn’t stand up against even surface level scrutiny.
Google could combat this with little to no effort. Put a flag next the username. Display the number of manually deleted comments. Done. But they won’t. Fuck youtube. Fuck Google. They are perfectly happy to lead the charge into fascism.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No knowledge would be lost. Books exist, other video platforms exist too. Fuck YT, fuck Google
knightly@pawb.social 2 weeks ago
Save everything you want to keep
Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
What fools we’ve been, thinking we could televise the revolution on a corporate monopolist video platform, where ultimately they have absolute control over. Even bigger fools we’ve been, pinning our emancipatory power hopes to our labour?
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Would it be lost? Do people upload but not keep copies? I barely look at YouTube at all anymore. I could do without it.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Also Microsoft, Apple, Meta all for collection complying with the regime. It’ll be funny if it’s what brings MySpace back.
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Use a YouTube frontend. Don’t give them any ad revenue. Make it cost them money to service you.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But maybe directly support the creators you watch. They shouldn’t also suffer because of Google
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Please don’t use official YouTube clients
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
I’m more worried about people email, search, and location history being used against them.
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
There is no reason to honor these warrantless requests. The Bush Administration sent National Security Letters to them, demanding all this information without a warrant and threatening massive penalties if they told anyone. They had no legal basis to do such a thing, the constitution demands they get a warrant from a judge as laid out in the 4th amendment and calls anything in violation of the constitution to be illegal and unenforceable.
But the rot has been spreading for a half a century, the immune system of the Republic is haywire, we have autoimmune conditions, the immune system attacks healthy parts of the body.
wampus@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
America isn’t a country of laws anymore. The supreme court rubber stamps anything the administration wants to do, and the administration “declines requests from the judiciary”. You’ve got administration officials that don’t know what Habeas Corpus means, suspending Habeas Corpus. You’ve got a military openly/brazenly committing war crimes on the international scene (blowing up unverified “narco boats”/civilians). You’ve got a paramilitary gestapo-like force quite literally shooting citizens in the streets, your own government aiming to terrorize its people – which’s the whole point of the violent Ice operations targeting blue states.
But yeah, sure, Google and the big tech bros who have been supporting Trump’s actions throughout all of this will totally draw the line at disclosing data.
shalafi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nah, SCOTUS pushed back on Trump, first time around and this time as well. The administration had a solid run of Supreme Court wins for several months because they only brought cases they thought were slam dunks. Now that we’re getting into meaty subjects like birthright citizenship, the justices look to stand firm. Too little, too late, I know.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
I fully expect Google to give in anyway. The rule of law doesn’t count for much anymore.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Oh yeah for sure, they have been for some time well before this administration as I understand it.
Facebook is even worse I believe. They allow the police and agents virtually unlimited reach into our lives without warrants. They don’t even charge the government to comply with their demands. ATT used to charge the government a lot of money for wiretaps and the like, and made them get warrants. Facebook they just have to ask and they bend over backwards for them.
Maybe facebook and google are guilty on other fronts which makes them susceptible to betraying our freedoms here. Which is why you don’t allow such consolidation in the first place but too late now our courts are captured as well as the regulators and they won’t break up the trusts, not without a new muscular populist government on a full fledged campaign.
slickgoat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
So glad that I’m not a US citizen.
FAINTEDKINGS@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Me too. But I live in a worse situtation country.
WallaWallaWa@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
WaPo (gift) article: “Homeland Security is targeting Americans with this secretive legal weapon”
Under Trump, the Department of Homeland Security has weaponized administrative subpoenas to attack free speech, according to privacy and civil rights groups.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
apparently subpeona arnt enforcable warrants like an actual court order.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
It gives organizations a reason to betray their users/the public and surrender to the administration though.
shuva_meta@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
What a Democratic energy
Willoughby@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
Degoog’d already. Enjoy my ancient Papa Johns orders from 2019, Feddarinos.
rogsson@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
De-American folks.
hector@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
After Snowden anyone still trusting their information with American Companies and or across American Servers/lines, well I guess I should find those people and get them to invest in my new company, might as well make some money off of these people everyone else is.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I’m glad I was already well on the pathway to de-googling
kokesh@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nazi Barbie, I will save you some work, here I say: tRump belongs to jail, he is full of shit and covered in shit. PEDOPHILE ASSHOLE.
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The RSHA and NKVD dream. It’s time to dump Gmail.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
More nails in the coffins of privacy and free speech.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They don’t need to demand. They already have access en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
StupendousMan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The cloud act requires a warrant, this is them just demanding access.
“The CLOUD Act primarily amends the Stored Communications Act (SCA) of 1986 to allow federal law enforcement to compel U.S.-based technology companies via warrant or subpoena to provide requested data stored on servers regardless of whether the data are stored in the U.S. or on foreign soil.”
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The lion doesn’t concern himself with things like warrant.
If you’re going to argue on this, just know that the president is a child rapist and all the oligarchs are friends with each other and the politicians and they rape children together.
Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 weeks ago
The Department of Homeland Security should abide by the constitution.
That’s my random criticism of The Department of Homeland Security.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
you’re on the list now, not the pedo list, that’s exclusive for billionaires
disco_jimmy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s a great way for Google to go out of business.
AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh my sweet summer child… Google is half the internet and is funding this nightmare.
sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
they have to ask?
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Just making it official so things can move fast.
FAINTEDKINGS@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Random critcs come to lemmy. I am demand information from department of homeland security.
Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh my god I knew this was gonna happen at some point, me and Google have a long history, and I doubt I’m gonna stop using Gemini, Google search, or YouTube.
IratePirate@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Sorry, my sensors for irony, sarcasm and satire have been severely damaged by 2025. Please, puh-leaaase tell me this is!
nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nope… This is a person actively choosing comfort over morals and over actual safety.
Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I used Google since I was a kid, so their products have been a part of my life for a long time. I don’t see myself not using YouTube.
You pick the platforms and pick what you share on each of them, be careful now what you say.
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
- Gemini: I’d recommend not using AI, but if you want to, then use Deepseek, Claude, ChatGPT, or anything else
- Google Search: DuckDuckGo, SearXNG, Kagi, Mojeek, Qwant, Startpage, Marginalia
- YouTube: use invidious.io for watching YouTube videos (it also gets rid of ads), and use PeerTube (video platform federated like Lemmy) and watch videos, and maybe post some if you have something to post about
You can also search the web for lots of deGoogling advice and guides and for alternatives to Google services
HorikBrun@kbin.earth 2 weeks ago
DHS can eat a US defense budget sized bag of dicks
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
The folks up at Whipple here in Minneapolis have been chucking dildoes at ICE and local law enforcement. Helps that one of the major spots for local resistance is a sex toy store, and they’ve got a lot of “expired” dildoes around.
(If you see reports of “objects” thrown at fascists, it’s not chunks of ice anymore, lol.)
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
Be careful with glass ones, though.
Jomega@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What the hell is an “expired” dildo?