Honestly I don’t give a shit as long as I can make a living. I wouldn’t mind working in a workshop or something. However, I don’t think we’re prepared for the millions upon millions of people who will lose their jobs becasue of AI.
CEO of Palantir Says AI Means You’ll Have to Work With Your Hands Like a Peasant
Submitted 2 days ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/future-society/palantir-ai-labor-hands
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Hawanja@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Soup@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The thing we’re not prepared for is to respect trades, we can barely respect anyone as it is but trades especially are seen as “stupid jobs”. It’s also insane that basic rights and comfort within a job seem foreign in those fields, such as basically only existing as jobs with dogshit, early hours, if they’re even consistent to begin with, and toxic workplaces where people are expected to break themselves and be infinitely subservient to their bosses.
I like working with my hands and yet have zero desire to put myself through that bullshit.
devolution@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Can somebody seriously do something about these savages? Like seriously!
rayyy@piefed.social 2 days ago
Fine. Plumber $800 an hour. Want food? A carrot for $70. Our society can let the rich win and split into a working class economy where working folks charge working folks wages for goods and services.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
We can’t do that because it takes rebellion, but we can’t have that because nine of this is Tue billionaires fault. Its poor people and minorities who are to blame for everything. We can’t rebel while every toothless illiterate hillbilly from Alabama has put on a Halloween costume and is going to other states and kicking everyone’s door in.
enterpries@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Thievery is becoming a better profession by the day.
Beats working for fucking peanuts from the families buying our government.
FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 2 days ago
AI isn't replacing shit, it's just another excuse for corpo scumbags to fire people for profit.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m wondering if those who think that AI will replace jobs have ever used “AI” (LLM), because it’s not very good.
I’m currently leading a business project at a big corporation, and an AI chatbot solution got pushed into my scope by executives, to be delivered free to the client as a pilot (screwing with my budget). Either Copilot Studio is absolute garbage, or we have incompetent engineers, because they can’t get it to work for 3 weeks now.
I have a hunch that in order for the latest fancy models to vomit back barely useable answers, thousands of the world’s best engineers and PhD-s are sweating blood 24/7, while using computing power and consuming energy that would have been enough for a continent in 2019.
Meanwhile they are also burning money like crazy, with no sustainable business model in sight. I’m not saying LLMs are not to stay, but there will be a huge bust, and it will assfuck the economy and workers, while these idiots will get bailed out by Daddy Small Government.
Wooki@lemmy.world 1 day ago
When any AI hyper rants about AI/AGI ask this 1 simple question.
what happens to income.
Thing is capitalism requires income. Without it, it collapses. We have already sold future income (debt) and attention (ads and personal information) is sold as well. If AGI occurs: robots occur; and the snake eats itself.
It’s going nowhere. Relax, touch some grass and let the hype cycle disappear.
If it does happen, the discussion becomes all about income not how many employees we fired last month to make line go up. Cause next month line is ded.
segabased@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
They want slavery because ai taking jobs makes no economic sense and breaks labor theory of value. No human production means nothing has value. We are literally already seeing this with ai slop!
The humane solution is we get a society where that philosophy major actually gets to be a philosopher in a mostly post scarcity automated communist society… But that would mean these ghouls wouldn’t be in power so now they’re trying to tell us we need to go backwards in time to feudalism.
What an absolute fucking joke, their technology needs nationalized and given to the people, they belong in cages
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
and breaks labor theory of value
Labor theory of value was shown to be flawed soon after Ricardo developed it. It only works if labor input per unit value is constant. Efficiency and innovation refute it. Also, it oversimplifies the relationship between cost and value.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 day ago
All while all the corporations tried to adapt AI are getting burned with it.
Replacing me my ass. It’s just a lot of anti-intellectualist workers are cheering on the tech, because the ruling class convinced them that the “elite” meant “person with ternary education”.
BranBucket@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Building incendiary devices sounds like it could become a fun and profitable handycraft…
Teal@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I’m proud to be able to work with my hands and so should anyone else who does. It doesn’t matter if it’s for a job or just around your home. Never too late to learn.
Better to know how to do for yourself instead of being a helpless dick like Alex Karp and his Ancient Aliens theory hairdo.
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
First against the wall.
whereIsTamara@lemmy.org 2 days ago
I type with my dick?
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Instructions unclear. Dick stuck in typewriter.
dukemirage@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What does „vocational“ in this context mean? Manual labour?
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
He’s referring to skilled trades like electrical, plumbing, carpentry etc.
foodandart@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
More basic than that.
I’ve been in the Trades since 1980 and for the last 35 years, homes have been built - esp. by the big developers - with such crap quality materials that if you choose a trades career, you’re going to be guaranteed non-stop repair work.
TBH, I wouldn’t own a home built since 1987 - that is when the quality of lumber took a nosedive and the rest of it followed down that slide over the deccades…
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Keep talking Alex.
flock_of_nazguls@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well, I hope this douchebag enjoys his eventual prison labour. He’s got the right attitude for it.
liking625@lemmy.world 1 day ago
AI hioefully will be able to replace ultrarich CEOs soon too and cost us almost nothing.
draco_aeneus@mander.xyz 1 day ago
Non-human, uncaring machines who amass and hoard wealth beyond human comprehension honestly doesn’t sound any different than what we have now.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The machines are less likely to traffic minors for the purpose of sexual exploitation.
liking625@lemmy.world 1 day ago
yes sorry, i just meant to direct companies, not to amass and hoard :)
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Alex needs more people working with their hands. You know, stuff like tilling land, then planting Coca seeds. Follow that up with nurturing said plants until they can be harvested and then he’d like you to use your hands to help process those leaves into sweet sweet Colombian bam bam. From there he’d ask you to use your legs to help transport that magical white nectar to wherever it is that he is currently located so he can deposit it directly up his nose. This is an essential process to delivering value to shareholders interested in trading in subjugation and death.
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Dear Alex Karp: Gee, would’ve been a shame if we’d give your money to us and then to the poor. Sincerely, everyone
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Punchable face. What a motherfucker.
Mac@mander.xyz 2 days ago
Not him, though. He’s a different class of human that isn’t like us plebeians.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 days ago
He deserves to go like Ghaddafi did
Zorque@lemmy.world 2 days ago
He said it like that, or is that embellishment for the sake of clickbait?
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I believe in this instance it is an embellishment, but then again this is the guy that want to throw urine on his enemies.
Karp: “I love the idea of getting a drone and having light fentanyl-laced urine spraying on analysts that tried to screw us”
THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m sure it’s the people’s fault.
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Manufacturing, manufacturing, manufacturing.
How much shit do we really fucking need to make?
willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
We can make shit that wears out after a week of use. Then we need an endless amount of shit.
Strider@lemmy.world 2 days ago
m.imdb.com/de/title/tt6902176/
More than anyone requires.
SuiXi3D@fedia.io 2 days ago
Already do, asshole. Some of us enjoy actually building things.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
Rape is never funny… Unless it’s an AI powered tentacle monster raping Alex Karp in every hole.
obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 1 day ago
bullies!
spacesatan@leminal.space 2 days ago
Notable that it’s the author of the article calling people peasants, not Karp.
Fuck you Joe Wilkins. I hope Karp is right and you have to work with your hands like ‘a peasant’ in your words. You might have to do something useful for society instead of writing clickbait for Futurism.
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I agree the title is demeaning to vocational jobs, some of these even pay more than desk jobs. In some countries plumbers are paid more than doctors. But I highly doubt Karp is right, he is delusional.
This is a much better title: ibtimes.co.uk/palantir-ceo-alex-karp-says-ai-will…
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Whenever any one of these assholes opens their yap in public, the only response they should hear back is, “You need us. We don’t need you. Shut the fuck up.”