Submitted 9 hours ago by Patnou@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
Unless you’re a huge person to start or have massive water weight you don’t. A pound of fat is approximately 3,000 calories, so you would need an almost 3K deficit every day to drop that, and since most people eat around that much as their normal intake that’s an extreme amount that could be deemed starvation.
Now if you happen to be huge where the normal body functioning uses well past that then maybe, but if you’re anywhere below 300 lbs that would be a crazy amount for 2 months.
I’ve heard it said that a healthy target is around 1 lb per week. Maybe 2 if you’re very obese, but at that point you really should be doing it under medical guidance.
In any case, the best way I’ve heard (outside of drugs) is to get an app that helps count calories, set a realistic daily caloric target and exercise schedule, and stay on it.
Are there any apps you would recommend?
Outside of necessary amputations or liposuction, there’s no healthy way to do that. Especially in a way that’s sustainable.
Severe illness or a gulag.
50 lb over 8 weeks is pretty insane. 1 lb/week is pretty good. 2 a week is pushing it.
50 isn’t going to happen without consequences.
I lost 40lbs in 7 weeks. Would not recommend. It was from chemo and radiation making so that I vomited any food, and needed a liquid food pump inserted. Your body will be wrecked at that calorie loss.
Nothing, it’s just a bad idea
Yes
Calories in, calories out is basic thermodynamics.
Well scientifically it is exactly calories in to your metabolism vs calories burned out.
Whether your body is absorbing those, or too depressed of a system to burn at a normal rate would be the doctor’s investigation.
What is the “calories in calories out” shit?
Ignoring metabolism and focusing solely on food calories consumed and exercise calories burned.
While calories are basic physics/chemistry/biology, they say nothing about the health of the individual. Not eating anything for a month to burn through your fat reserves isn’t going to leave you thin and trim.
I did a pretty extreme weight loss a few years back, and in two months, I lost 20 pounds.
Even that was a bit more than is recommended without strict medical supervision. Two pounds per week is kind of the upper bound of “normal” weight loss. Don’t attempt more without a very, very good reason, and an even better doctor.
50 pounds in 8 weeks is 6 pounds per week which is well beyond a safe level of fat loss (without medical supervision and extenuating circumstances or surgery).
You’ll be left with a lot of flappy skin too.
“Not spending a lot” wouldn’t be worrying about that, you’re not going to be eating.
Losing that much weight in that amount of time means you have a critical medical condition.
However in two months you can easily learn better, healthy nutrition and become more active, even have a lightweight exercise program. This will serve you better in the long run.
There is never an easy way to become more healthy in a short term, except death.
You lose about a pound a day water fasting, but its hard mentally and physically. As in if you’ve never fasted before, its gonna be hard to keep going the first 24hrs. If you’re obese you have a good chance to come out just fine. You can look up the electrolytes y o u need to do an extended water fast. You should be getting checked out by a doc frequently while doing it. Things can go bad really quickly. Read, read, read everything you can before doing this.
A Protein Sparing Modified Fast(PSMF) is where you eat about 600 to 800 calories a day with about 120 to 150g of protein (chicken breast) with leafy greens( broccoli, spinach, kale) the veg is so low calorie it doesnt really matter the amount as long as its at least a cup( you need the vitamins, minerals, and fiber). the protein so filling you basically are gonna be “full”. you wont be satisfied, but you will be able to eat and never be looking for more. the point is to have enough protein intake to keep your muscle loss to a minimum. You have to do a basic weight training or calisthenics regimen to keep the muscle loss down.
Go to your doc and tell them your plan. They will take blood exams, probably EKG, and check ins every 2 or 3 weeks to make sure everything is OK. I’ve done PSMF because my sleep apnea was literally killing me. I lost 25 lbs the first month and 20 the next. It sucked, but it fixed my apnea and all my cardiovascular and metabolic problems. I then gradually raised my calories to 1800 and kept losing weight until I got to a normal weight.
You will have loose skin, lift weights and fill out with muscle to help with it. If something feels off, wrong, hurts, etc. Stop and go get checked out.
I had weight loss surgery ~2yrs ago. Started out at ~335lbs and have lost ~100lbs. Most of that was lost slowly over the course of the first year after the surgery.
So, even with weight loss surgery you are unlikely to loose 50lbs in two months. Unless you are starting at a very very high inital weight.
Napkin math: There are roughly 3,500 calories in 1 lb of fat. To lose 50lbs of fat, that’s 175000 calories.
Let’s get an upper bound of 31 days per month, for 2 months, that’s 62 days. 175000 / 62 approximately 2822.5 calorie deficit per day required. The actual number would be higher.
The other aspect of this is that, generally speaking, the majority of “quick” weight loss is pretty much always in the form of water loss. Water weighs around 8lbs a gallon. So, you’d need to drop about 6 gallons of water to achieve that kind of weight loss.
Neither of these are safe, reasonable, or practical in that time frame, for the average person without medical supervision and/or other professionals supporting you.
This would kill you.
A tapeworm infection.
Amputate a leg?
Amputate one of your balls.
Assuming you’re a male, you should not drop below 1500 cal a day, it can cause permanent issues.
Really? Somehow I doubt that. I’m short (165cm) and I believe I can run below this threshold just fine.
Daily exercise counts a lot too. Get a heart rate monitor and get into zone 2 for 150 minutes a week, it’s hard to describe how much of a difference it makes through your entire body.
Working out has a lot of positive health benefits but it plays just a tiny role in weight loss. It’s virtually all about diet.
Daily exercise only counts if it’s cardio and not muscle building. Otherwise the fat gets converted to muscle, which weighs more than fat.
Of course, weight loss shouldn’t ever be considered the end goal, and building muscle and having your weight go up/stay the same is perfectly fine to become healthier.
Daily exercise only counts if it’s cardio and not muscle building. Otherwise the fat gets converted to muscle, which weighs more than fat.
That’s entirely wrong because there’s no way you can gain muscle mass as fast as you can lose fat.
A person can easily lose a pound of fat a weak and will have a difficult time, unless on PEDs, to gain a pound of muscle mass in the same time.
menshealth.com/…/how-much-muscle-gain-per-month/
So yes, muscle building aka hypertrophy via lifting weights will absolutely make you lose fat. In fact the heavier you lift the more fat your body will use in order to do work. Which will make you lose weight even faster.
Meth is cheap
Or for a legal option, you can walk in to most weight loss clinics and they’ll give you all the robin eggs (phentermine) you want. They’re also great for long road trips.
I mean sure, but think of all the hardworking meth dealers who could use that money. Have some empathy
A casual stroll through your local anti-personnel minefield should do it. Bring tourniquets.
You can even do it in 1 minute with a good axe.
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Stop eating.
Before you start eating again talk to a doctor.
No one suggested Delhi belly?? Just eat a bunch of raw chicken, bro
(This is terrible advice)
Intermittent fasting. Save money on food by simply not eating as much food.
A simple start for that is skipping either breakfast or dinner if stricter rules would be hard to follow.
If you eat lunch at noon, dinner at 8pm, and you don’t eat outside the afternoon, that’s immediately a 16-8 IF.
I do breakfast at 7, small snack of nuts at 10, lunch at 12:30, small snack at 2, dinner at 6, and absolutely nothing after dinner.
Meal volumes get adjusted depending on what I’m trying to do with my weight.
That 7-7 fast gives my body time to properly digest food and means my cholesterol spikes properly when I do eat food. This means fewer cravings, so the entire process becomes easier.
Coffee and cigarettes
Stop eating
Calculate your required calories per day (lots of websites have free to use tools for this). Understood the calories per day by a reasonable percentage (same site you use will likely have a feature that does this). Weight loss is calories in calories out, add in some exercise and you help the cause a bit. You’ll never out train a bad diet. Abs aren’t made in the gym they’re made in the grocery store.
Periodic fasting and some mild exercise, for free.
Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
If you stop eating entirely for 2 months you might just barely make it.
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
Turns out, there are people who practice that sort of extreme fasting. BTW going back to normal eating doesn’t happen in a day.