AI boom could falter without wider adoption, Microsoft chief Satya Nadella warns

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is it a “you’re holding it wrong” moment? Or a “no, it’s the consumers who are wrong” moment?

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• palmtrees2309@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Your AI hate is hampering the economy” - Future headline most probably.

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  • emmanuel_car@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Replace “the economy” with “rich people’s yacht money”

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nobody wants to prompt anymore.

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• Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nadella maybe know a lot more than any of us about LLMs/GenAI tech, but one doesn’t need to know anything about LLMs (or even technology) to know that an oligarch like Nadella cannot be trusted (in any context).

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    yeah idk about that first part

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  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Power corrupts, we’ve know this since the dawn of time

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m kind of more-sympathetic to Microsoft than to some of the other companies involved.

    Microsoft is trying to leverage the Windows platform that they control to do local LLM use. I’m not at all sure that there’s actually enough memory out there to do that, or that it’s cost-effective to put a ton of memory and compute capacity in everyone’s home rather than time-sharing hardware in datacenters. Nor am I sold that laptops are a fantastic place to be doing a lot of heavyweight parallel compute.

    But…from a privacy standpoint, I kind of would like local LLMs to be at least available, even if they aren’t as affordable as cloud-based stuff. And at least Microsoft is at least supporting that route. A lot of companies are going to be oriented towards just doing AI stuff in the cloud.

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    • makyo@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is that true? I haven’t heard MS say anything about enabling local LLMs. Genuinely curious and would like to know more.

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    • 4am@lemmy.zip ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Microsoft wants developers to have local access to models but end users are 100% corralled into OneDrive and Copilot. I’m not sympathetic to them at all.

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    • Feyd@programming.dev ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They’re trying to leverage their windows platform to seek rent (sell premium cloud services like LLM access) for shit people don’t even want because they aren’t satisfied making very respectable money on licenses.

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    • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If Microsoft cared about privacy then they wouldn’t have made windows practically spyware. Even if they install AI locally in the OS, it’s still proprietary software that constantly sends data back to the mothership, consuming your electricity and RAM to do so. Linux has so many options, there’s really no reason not to switch.

      Small LLMs already exist for local self-hosting, and there are open-source options which won’t steal your data and turn you into a product.

      huggingface.co/spaces/…/open_llm_leaderboard#/

      Bear in mind that the number of parameters your system can handle is limited by how much memory is available, and using a quantized version can increase the number of parameters you can handle with the same amount of memory.

      Unless you have some really serious hardware, 24 billion parameters is probably the maximum that would be practical for self-hosting on a reasonable hobbyist set-up. But I’m no expert, so do some research and calculate for yourself what your system can handle.

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    • Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I wouldn’t trust a local LLM solution from a large American company. Not saying that they would try to “pull a quick one”, but they are unreliable and corrupt.

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• Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Gooooooooooooooooood

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• DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Image

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• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  eat shit you walking dickhead.

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• Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good?

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• AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Cry more. Half the problem is Copilot is anecdotally worse than just running a model locally myself. It easily ranks at or near the bottom for everything IME.

  The other half is Microsoft shoving it everywhere including fucking Notepad.

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• iamthetot@piefed.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t threaten me with a good time.

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• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m not sure what Nutella wants to accomplish with with his constant “warning”, because nobody cares. Apart from his billionaire buddies maybe.

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh, that would be a shame. Not like I was already planning on buying a new computer this year and the idea of over-paying due to RAM shortages and other bs has made me mad at them. After already being mad at them for a lot of reasons that were more abstract in how they harmed me. Fuck 'em.

  Hey, you know that Microsoft guy in a high position who pissed off devs on Twitter by saying their code would be replaced by AI and then a lot of the internet called him on his shit? Maybe I can work for him (because I’m certainly not talented enough to get hired directly under ass-face here).

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• stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Its the customer’s that are wrong” is essentially what he is saying. Anyone with any marketing ability should know how insane that sounds. Build something that people want to use to drive growth. This is pretty much an admission that LLMs are a solution in search of a problem.

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• JayGray91@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Bend backwards and ponder your shiny orb of a head, Nadella. That’s the whole point.

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• deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The customer is always right in matters of taste and style.

  If you can’t get (and keep) customers for your product: that’s your problem.

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh no…anyway

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• MrSulu@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Let’s not adopt! Move away from MicroSlop Minimise use of AI services aka data theft.

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• Boiglenoight@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Businessman warns attempt at creating profit engine out of mass piracy may fail if people don’t cooperate

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• deleted@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Too late. I ditched Mircoslop for good.

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• illi@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t threaten us with a good time

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• Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good, best time to curb its use.

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• qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  How would this be bad for me?

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• Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Please falter .

  Fuck microsoft

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• weegee90@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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• muhyb@programming.dev ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not boom, we’re waiting for a kaboom

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• UltraBlack@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Please use our products. Don’t you see our lack of growth??

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• thesohoriots@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Just one more AI, bro. Please. I swear. Just one more this time.”

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• verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That moment when for a split second a brahmin realises the world doesn’t revolve around them… Just for a split second though.

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• dumbadoor@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m just tired of AI this AI that. Give me a functional product not a bandaid solution that in the end I don’t need

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• kyonshi@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Good.

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• L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So you’re saying that in order to win we must do nothing? Alright I’m pretty good at that.

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