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YSK that no form of United States ID, no matter how valid, guarantees protection when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨destructdisc@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨youshouldknow@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.twincities.com/2026/01/16/family-of-u-s-citizen-detained-by-ice-in-st-paul-seeks-her-release/

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  • luridness@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do the Americans not realise that… like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.

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    • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just as most Americans who have moved to other countries refuse to call themselves immigrants, and default to calling themselves “expats”, most don’t seem to get that, no.

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      • Successful_Try543@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Isn’t an expat somebody who is sent abroad for work by his employee?

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    • HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Too many Americans think “immigrant” is just a synonym for “not white”.

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      • elbarto777@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Which is stupid because their ancestors aren’t from this land. And millions of “not-whites” were forced to come here! Not that they will ever understand that.

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    • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.

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    • rayyy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      native Americans

      Even they are being snatched off streets and “detained”.

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    • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re arresting and detaining the actual native Americans too. Because they really want a Christo-fascist white state, not a native one.

      That’s why they want to import the racists from South Africa.

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      • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Was a thousand years of the dark ages not quite enough?

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    • brown567@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not to mention that ICE is frequently abducting Native Americans because they’re brown

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    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn’t give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.

      Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That’s disgustingly low, too… But still, he does it anyway.

      This isn’t new. Most Americans have no agency. We’re just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.

      For every sane person speaking out, there’s two to three others that have given up on everything. They’ll just watch the news and do what it says.

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    • MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do the Americans not realise that…

      No.

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    • stelelor@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is the 21st century version of Manifest Destiny. Their immigrant status doesn’t matter because they’re white and therefore superior.

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    • MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not about imigration. Only brown and black are “imigrants”.

      …although even white women are being killed now

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      100%, my family only came to this god awful country to escape the Holocaust before it began. I find it absolutely absurd that now we have decided to shut our border. Even crazier is they keep saying they want legal immigration yet they make it impossible to do so.

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  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your ‘arrest’. You’d be lucky to see them again.

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    • alternategait@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Right. I hear people pushing passport cards. I can so easily imagine “Here’s my passport card” “Thanks”

      “Where’s your id?” “I gave you my passport card” “No you didn’t/what passport card?”

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      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        To prevent these tragedies, the Trump administration will simply offer numerical tattoos that can’t be lost.

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  • BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You NEED to Comply with These Unknown Heavily Armed Men otherwise they have EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to KILL YOU!

    -People who Complained about Rights during Covid!

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  • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Most of them can’t read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don’t care enough to look for proof.

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  • homes@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.

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    • Bazell@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      *brown people everyone whom they dislike. Colored people are just majority of their hate list.

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  • RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Another U.S. citizen: cbsnews.com/…/maryland-mom-ice-deportation-dulce-…

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    • destructdisc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And a Navajo man who had all his documentation on him

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    • scott@lem.free.as ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Land of the free, home of the brave.”

      Gimme a break.

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      • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Every empire has a grand narrative. The rest of the world has been quietly rolling their eyes at these American euphemisms for some time now.

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  • roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They have arrest quotas, not identification quotas. They don’t care.

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  • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.

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    • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting “criminals” off the streets. So it’s worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.

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      • LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they’re doing. Don’t afford it ant legitimacy. There’s no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of people of color.

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  • Drbreen@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you’re a different colour. What a shithole.

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    • destructdisc@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      no no, that or should be an “and” – having paperwork doesn’t save you from getting fucked over

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    • DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Welcome back to Nazi Germany, because that’s what the country that used to be the Land of the Free is turning into.

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      • DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This time, without trains on time though.

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      • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        All those years the Americans spent bragging about defeating the Nazis only to then become the Nazis. What a timeline.

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  • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.

    Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.

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    • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not only that, but they have an app that is supposed to help them figure out your status using facial recognition. They are admitting that they only harass people who their app thinks looks un-American. And they believe their app even if you have valid documents that say otherwise.

      npr.org/…/ice-facial-recognition-immigration-trac…

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      • lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Image

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  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.

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    • nomy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For now.

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  • lolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fucking thank you!!

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    • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Carry your social security card!”

      Why, so they can just rip it in half and call it fake documents? Pass. Just fuckin illegally arrest me and let’s get it over with.

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  • jali67@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s worse is that ICE is just a bunch of untrained hicks with a badge

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  • frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    2 days detention for a Kavanaugh stop, huh? I think we should add up all the time citizens have spent detained because of blatant racism like this and then the man himself can sit in a shit hole jail for that length of time until he stops being too white to consider that other humans deserve better. I insist all his food contain spice levels not safe for white people to consume.

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  • BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You can’t negotiate with terrorists. They aren’t there for a legitimate purpose. ICE is a Run-Hide-Fight encounter.

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  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.

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    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And I’m sure we’ll be seeing you on the front lines actively fighting against ICE…

      Unless you’re part of the Black Panthers, I find these Internet tough guy comments laughable and even I who have went to the No Kings protests carrying, I’m not going to be fighting multiple ICE agents if they ask for papers please on my minority ass.

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      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m not really sure what this comment was trying to do. I’m scared like anyone else. My fight or flight response is gear heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.

        I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.

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    • lemmyng@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You wont win against the most expensive military in the world. The only option I see is a general strike.

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      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well the economic desperation is certainly on the horizon. People are held back by their finances and jobs right now. When they cant meet their needs any more, they wont hold back.

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      • Bazell@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This military relies on its citizens. If it starts actively killing them in response for self defense, then not only the general strike but the problems in whole country will be guaranteed. And very quickly this military will officially turn into armed terroristic/criminal organization without proper support of the economy and many other aspects of society. So, it only takes a few sparks to start a huge fire. Yes, there will be innocent killed. But this will be justified if the crooked government will be destroyed.

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  • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.

    That’s why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    i wonder when perceived immigrants are forced to wear somekind of mark on them, maybe a star.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Simply register your Proof of Citizenship on the blockchain with TrumpCoin!

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    • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That would be a really easy way to identify them. Yes.

      /S

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  • adaveinthelife@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well there is one uniquely American form of ID that guarantees protection from ICE…

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    • GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Being white is not enough though.

      Maybe if you are orange, old and demented?

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    • silasmariner@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s being white, isn’t it

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      • warbond@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My first thought was a gun, that’s pretty American, and if you show them how American you are they are less likely to want to try to arrest you

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  • RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cavanaugh stops!

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