Are we talking incandescent bulbs or led bulbs?
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Submitted 2 months ago by bytesonbike@discuss.online to [deleted]
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wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
FrenziedFelidFanatic@pawb.social 2 months ago
Strong led or (very) weak incandescent. It’s about 20 Watts (at least, that’s what the popsci meme reports)
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I dunno, I get real hungry on days when I have to think a lot
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lead bulbs ofc.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This guy lead bulbs.
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Tbf a lot of energy goes into producing the food we consume. But nowhere near what it costs to run this AI garbage.
tomiant@piefed.social 2 months ago
Win at what?
jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes
jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Win at being shit.
God creates man.
Man creates god.
Man kills god.
Man creates AI.
AI kills man.
AI destroys earth.
Crocodile people rule the galaxy until the heat death of the universe.-Nietzsche
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I hate AI, but Poe’s law is hitting hard.
I can’t tell if you’re making fun of AI and are seriously mistaken about how much power is used, or if this is a satire about people who dislike AI.You’re comparing like 100k people using AI simultaneously to a single brain. (And blah blah blah training).
There are lots of reasons to hate AI, but power usage has never convinced anyone, in part because the power usage stats are so easy to bullshit and so difficult to prove.
bytesonbike@discuss.online 2 months ago
Ah yeah don’t take shit post too seriously.
For me, this meme was just a Matrix joke.
Spaniard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
As much as I think current IA is another bullshit marketing term, we will see when AI has been around for at least a few centuries, I don’t think we need thousands of years like brains did.
BanMe@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is the thing about AI criticism. AI in the LLM sense we know today has been publicly available for a few years, in development for a couple decades. Any criticism about how stupid it is will be irrelevant in 6-12 months. Look at the people trashing AI 2 years ago, how it would constantly hallucinate and produce gibberish code. Now it’s a lot better on both regards. In 2 more years, what then? It’ll be better. Yes we’ll hit the LLM ceiling but there’s a lot of fine tuning to be done.
Criticize AI for the environmental effects, the inequality that it’s enhancing, how the rich and powerful have access to the AIs that know too much about us. Criticize it for lacking the reality of human composed text. But criticizing it on technical grounds is not the right angle.
FWIW if you asked both an AI and a HS student to crank out an essay on a random topic, the HS student not having studied the topic, the HS student would be the one making more shit up. Human brains have limitations too. AI and human brains aren’t directly comparable.
jj4211@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Look at the people trashing AI 2 years ago, how it would constantly hallucinate and produce gibberish code.
In my experience, this is absolutely still the case…
ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Isn’t this how we get the Matrix?
SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 2 months ago
In the matrix humans were used as batteries, not processors. Although that was the original writing before an exec thought the average person would be “confused” by that
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
The thing in the right is also a glorified prediction engine. I suppose whoever made this is steeped in religious dogma but humans aren’t that advanced either.
skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
It’s still leagues ahead of LLMs. I’m not saying it’s entirely impossible to build a computer that surpasses the human brain in actual thinking. But LLMs ain’t it.
The feature set of the human brain is different, in a way that you can’t compensate for by just increasing scale. So you get something that works but not quite, by using several orders of magnitude more power.
We optimize and learn constantly. We have chunking, whereby a complex idea becomes simpler for our brain once it’s been processed a few times, and this allows us to progressively work on more and more complex ideas without an increase in our working memory.
If you spend enough time using LLMs you must notice how their working is different from your own.
Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
I think the moat is that when a human is born and their world model starts “training”, it’s already pre-trained by millions of years of evolution. Instead of starting from random weights like any artificial neural network, it starts with usable stuff, lessons from scenarios it may never encounter but will nevertheless gain wisdom from.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I don’t spend time working with LLMs. I’d agree we have additional features. For example I think while the computers currently can guess, we can guess and check in a meaningful way. But that’s not what the meme was about. I would argue the meme was barely about anything other than “ai bad, me smort”. Ironic since the LLM could probably make a better one.
sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Sorry, but I’m not a prediction engine, I am capable of abstract thought, and actually understanding the meaning of the words.
I can also process all kinds of different data and make connection between then which includes emotional connections.
Another cool trick, I also have this thing called a consciousness which is something I can’t explain or put into words but I know it exists.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
So you have something you don’t understand and can’t prove exists. Like a hallucination?
Tbh the rest isn’t worth responding to. Emotional connections? Come on, you’re a horny bag of chemical soup.
teuniac_@lemmy.world 2 months ago
this thing called a consciousness which is something I can’t explain or put into words but I know it exists. All under 20W.
Maybe you’d be able to if you dial it to 25W
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Do you not have an internal experience?
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Of course I do, that doesn’t mean we understand it.
Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
You can’t prove that I do, I can’t prove that you do. Those metaphysical arguments don’t have much punch in a scientific conversation.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Also you can runge most models on a wide range of fuels. Sucrose, glucose, maltose, ethanol, molybdenum disulfide, small rocks, some grass. Really anything.
killea@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes I think the point is just a shit ton more than the human brain, generally.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Whoooosh
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Idea meat FTW
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 2 months ago
AI is a parasite.
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So are many idea meat lumps