Submitted 2 days ago by FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
Not just uncaught murderers, there are a lot of people who have killed without legally being considered murderers.
People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents
People who killed in self defense
Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers
Police officers who have killed on duty
Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients
I have actually met, spoken to, and joked with convicted murderers. And people who committed far more heinous crimes.
I have a very interesting work history.
The fact of the matter is, someone who has murdered another — beyond a shadow of a doubt, I don’t mean to include those falsely convicted — does not necessarily mean to kill YOU. Unless they’re a psycho or something, most killers have killed because of some circumstance that put another person in the way of their life. I’m not saying they absolutely had to kill the person. Just that had the circumstances been different, they wouldn’t have necessarily killed someone at all. Sexual predators are different. They target their victims and set up the circumstances, in most cases. But killers? Not necessarily a threat to you, unless you are necessarily a threat to them. Even serial killers. Serial killers just have a body count. Most of them don’t want to kill everyone.
Everyone I know has met a killer.
If you want to test this, start up conversations with the combat vets around you. You might not like the answers. That’s the vast majority of killers I’ve known (that I’ve known).
I’ve met many people that have killed people. I didn’t think that was all that unusual. I know for sure two people I’ve met had killed people and there’s a whole bunch more that range from maybe to probably.
I’ve met many people that have killed people. I didn’t think that was all that unusual.
Same here. While no one in my family has ever owned a gun, I can think of at least 3 people I’ve met who have killed someone. One was by a nice woman and was clearly in self-defense.
I have no knowledge of encountering such person, also i never met anyone who owns a gun
I’m associates (he’s a friend of a friend) of a guy who did Manslaughter Under the Influence.
He’s a prick, but that’s unrelated to that, just right-wing
I dunno, it takes a type.
Knew a guy online who was part of a game guild and regularly told a teenager to go kill himself for not healing him on time during raids.
One day the Kid shot himself.
The guy was a full on asshole in rl, much older than the kid, had a family and a job and told himself and everyone that he wasn’t at fault cuz the kid was not mentally stable.
Like dude, regardless of someone’s mental health he is a bully with an anger problem and leaned into unleashing it on a young kid.
I’m pretty sure in Canada it’s illegal to encourage suicide. Even if it’s legal, it’s still a shitty thing to do
I’m not sure they’re unrelated.
Man was high on a drug cocktail and then decided to play chicken with a friend of his, he hates himself for it
Do you count “gave an old person COVID and they died”? Then absolutely for sure.
I was in the US Army for 6 years, soo there is that.
I grew up poor white trash in the US south, soo there is that.
Once met a man who confessed to me that he once hit and ran after striking a pedestrian with his car. He said he knew he killed them, but got away. It was fucking creepy as hell and couldn’t get away from the guy fast enough.
I’ve always wondered what drives people to such confessions. Not a killing of course, but I once met a dude and like 20 minutes later he was telling me about the literal scams he pulls. Shit like stealing old people’s passwords and whatnot to buy things for himself online. Very unambiguously illegal stuff. There was no context either, no lead up to that conversation. He just pulled the subject to that out of nowhere and started spilling the beans. One minute we were talking about wearing thinner gloves inside thicker gloves to keep our hands extra warm, and the next minute he was telling me how he tricks old people into submitting their email credentials into fake forms that he makes.
Wait til ppl start walking up and confessing without even saying “Hi” first 😂 Once you get that “It’s ok to confess to me” vibe, it’s hard to shake it.
Met a few ex terrorists. Northern Ireland is cool.
I know two that I can verify. One is a combat vet who had to kill during a fire fight in Iraq. The other is an outlaw biker who I went to school with, he shot a rival club member and a few years later got caught on a trafficking charge and somehow the police were able to connect him to the murder after his arrest. He’s obviously in prison now. It’s weird to know that after he committed the murder we reconnected and hung out a few times, there I was sitting at a bar laughing and joking with a killer without even knowing it.
Yes, with their scooter at a crosswalk after a bus stop. Classic.
I know I have. Back in 2010 or thereabouts, this guy at work who I trained to run the shift opposite of me is now in prison for multiple murders.
Anyone from Poland remember the case in the news about a guy murdering people so he could take over their property? Yeah, that one…
Yeah. There judicial/extrajudicial murders. There is different levels of manslaughter / accidental killings and such. Then there are the different degrees of murder. Even the mislabeling of products hsve brought “manslaughter” charges…
Anyway, yeah, many many people are either directly, or indirectly related/responsible for someone’s death.
In a sense, by levels of separation, I am indirectly responsible for a couple different people’s death…
Its not something that someone would put blame on me, I mean, I used to party with a lot of people, these people died while “partying”… not while around me, or because of me, but I didnt discourage the “partying” these folks were doing.
many many people are either directly, or indirectly related/responsible for someone’s death.
You want to get philosophical? Every mother and father are both directly responsible for the death of their children - even when that death is natural causes by old age, it wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t born.
…or someone who killed themselves…
I’ve been in the army and I met guys there who took part in the Karfreitagsgefecht. They may or may not have killed some poor peasant with an AK but they for certain lost an important part of themselves.
My dad killed his friend in a drunk driving accident back in 1986.
Yes, he told me about it. It was an interesting story to say the least.
I definitely have. I’m 43 and people have been randomly coming up to me and telling me their deepest, darkest secrets since I was 12 like I’m some kind of walking confessional booth.
Same here! Some guy I worked with randomly started telling me about a guy he murdered. He framed it as self-defense, but I’ve always wondered.
Lol, yeah I’d like to know specifically why ppl choose to tell me these things, but oh well 😂
Do you inspire trust this much ?
Apparently 😂 The key is being a mix of non-judgmental and not caring. The silly stuff some people are worried about though when I’ve literally gotten confessions from multiple murderers always throws me for a loop. Makes me wonder how entities that assist with life reviews during NDEs or after death keep from cracking up. Experience, I suppose.
Also, I never tell on people, and most of the time I forget what they said immediately afterwards because I know they were confessing for their own sake, not mine. I guess that gives me a “safe place” vibe.
The candy shop guy where I grew up was apparently a Serbian specops deserter of the Yugoslavian war.
So yeah, probs.
Old guys who killed fiddy men
In my younger years, I knew many people who killed others.
Went to high school with one.
I went to high school with at least six. I say “at least” because those are just the four I know about. Two killed people with their car, three went into the military right after graduating and did combat tours. Talking with them afterwards, it was clear they had 100% seen combat and killed people. And the last just straight up shanked a dude at a local fast food place during a drug deal.
Yeah I know numerous former members of the US military
Yeah, I think I’ve met 3 murderers, two before they murdered, one after the fact.
One was mentally unstable and sad, then made fun of, second I met was kind and normal, third was dumb bulky drug dealer that was also kind.
None of them were evil or psychopaths or any of those typical traits and it made me think that to become a murdered you have to be both unlucky and triggered in a meaningful way.
I’ve seen a person get killed, but was lucky enough to not have met the killer.
This is like a riddle.
Landmine?
Sniper?
Car bomb?
Vietnam pitt trap?
Random guy was gunned down walking down the street. Was on my balcony on the phone. Happened about 40 yards or so from where I stood.
I’ve known several people in the military, who saw combat and have confirmed kills. Half my family, basically.
I also knew MANY kids who were whisked off to Iraq and Afghanistan to partake in human meat grinding…
also miscarriage 😵💫
Before I got my vasectomy I murdered billions of babies a month.
I think they are still being produced and dying 😵💫😵💫
bruh…
I know, childbirth is crazy AF.
we really need to find a better way
permachillxo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
As far as i know, i have met only one person like this.
A guy i knew in “highschool” (kinda equilevant) killed his friend a few years later while both were drunk and had just come out of sauna. He thought that his girlfriend had cheated on him with the other guy and woops, axe to the back.