How long until we can trick the Ai into deletion the System32 folder?
Windows 11 to add an AI agent that runs in background with access to personal folders, warns of security risk
Submitted 4 months ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
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Sabata11792@ani.social 4 months ago
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
That should be a fun defcon.
Pirate@feddit.org 4 months ago
Cool, you know who doesn’t have this issue? People who uninstalled the spyware called Windows from their device.
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
lol
they just keep piling on justifications for switching away
architect@thelemmy.club 4 months ago
There’s not a day that goes by that i don’t think about it. In fact i might just install a dual boot today and get reacquainted with a Linux distro. See if it runs the software I need…
demonsword@lemmy.world 4 months ago
you might try a live USB before you decide to commit, you can even create one inside Windows without formatting any disks
xvertigox@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Look into winboat if needed
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 months ago
I’ve been watching Windows get worse and worse from the sidelines for years now, but it seems they are really ramping it up now. It has gotten so bad, I genuinely feel bad for Windows users now. But it’s also pretty damn funny.
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
If I didn’t know better id think they’re trying to get people to switch away from windows.
Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I never bought Windows 11 for AI shit. It wasn’t even what came with 11 originally. Hey Microsoft, why not make a version of Windows 11 with all the AI stuff fully turned on and call it Windows 11-AI. You sell it separately and up charge ad much ad you want. Just reset 11 to no AI and have it be the bare bones 11.
pornpornporn@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Also, the AI-Windows could be upsold as a luxury, which means you can charge more for AI-11.
… If people were willing to pay for it, which is a tiny percentage of the small percentage of people that want AI on their windows. Even the people that are all in on chatgpt will very rarely accept paying a cent for it (and it must be a bargain considering that openAI said a few months ago that the average premium plan is a net loss for them due to the server costs)
The way things have been going it’s more likely that the AI-free version will be the upsold luxury
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Because they make so much more $ from selling your data. Microsoft would rather push these AI programs in an update, and bank on their users not noticing. The majority of users operate in a walled garden, they aren’t editing registry files or manually running commands, so they are less likely to notice the changes. It’s the power users that notice this shit, and sound the alarm.
Rooster326@programming.dev 4 months ago
They can’t do that. They have all of their money riding on AI. They can’t have own any data that might show the all-mightly Shareholders that they bet wrong.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Important to note here that if you are running Windows or a dual-boot, the new version of O&O ShutUp has a utility that allows you to delete CoPilot.
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 4 months ago
A few months ago, I did a fresh install of Windows 11 with no access to any personal files, etc, all done on a separate drive. After seeing all of the changes, I am glad I haven’t used it since. Holy moly.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The LLMs demand more data, so MS is providing it by scraping our personal hard drives. Well, not mine, but still most peoples.
I still have Win10 running on an air-gapped laptop because there are no Linux drivers for my cheap auto-feed scanner, which I’m using to scan a raft of old photos. Once that project is done, I’ll put Linux Mint on it, and use it for something fun.
Gimp, Inkscape, Blender, Steam, LibreOffice, Obsidian, and Jellyfin do everything I want from a desktop.
conartistpanda@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Dont forget “Everything”
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I have a dual-boot with Linux Mint. I don’t access anything personal from my windows installation. It’s just for games that don’t work on Linux.
massacre@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Oof - that reminds me - I have a LOT of scanning / digitizing to do.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Why? Who’s asking for this stuff, is there somebody out there who is really pleased with this news or is Microsoft really just that out of touch.
I don’t want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks, but Microsoft are pushing me towards it.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Isn’t it so they can train their AI on your personal files?
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The tech industry puts bazillions of dollars into AI development and now it has to put AI literally everywhere to make it look somehow useful. Whether the customer / user wants this or not. I guess they are hoping that people will eventually like it.
MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I work in IT for businesses and the number of times I’ve had to debunk AI slop hallucinations as actual troubleshooting information is not zero.
“Yes, I can see the instructions say to check that checkbox, however, that checkbox does not exist” (screenshot of relevant control panel).
This is just evidence, to me, that business types are already relying on AI instead of doing any actual thought or research on any topic they don’t already have a deep understanding of, or are too lazy to bother with.
Consumers are not driving this change.
The worst part is that it’s an echo chamber of yes-men that seem to be pushing for it. The AI enthusiasts trying to sell their crap, convincing the middle managers that they need their AI crap, and them buying it and asking for more/better AI crap, and the cycle continues. At no point does any of the output of any AI system provide any unique insight, or value, to anyone. The rest of us are being dragged along for the ride, regardless of what we want.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 months ago
I’ve read this exact questions tens of times now. This is capitalism. Now why would a for profit company ever do anything? I leave you to your deductions.
echodot@feddit.uk 4 months ago
Won’t they make more money if they don’t piss everyone off.
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 4 months ago
The socks have a bit of a learning curve, depending on what you want to do with them, but it’s worth it. It’s such a huge relief to not care how much more Windows is getting enshittified this week, since it’s not my problem anymore.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 months ago
In theory, I could use an AI for doing stuff. For example, opening ripped videos, finding the timestamp where the episode name is given, and then copying that into the video’s filename. Afterwards, it can open Handbrake, use my preferred settings for audio and subs, then start the conversion of multiple files.
However, this is all predicated on the AI not doing unwanted things - such as giving Microsoft my personal information, preferences in hentai, and passwords.
Someday I will use agentic AI, but it will be on my terms.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Microsoft is forcefemming people en masse.
ozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I don’t want to have to start wearing rainbow knee-length socks
it’s pretty obvious that you do
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
put the socks on >:3
rbos@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I’m not sure what’s worse, the greybeard stereotype or the socks.
orioler25@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Consumers are not the main driver of profit, speculative value is. Microsoft knows that Windows is guaranteed to be on the majority of PC’s, which means they can afford to implement hostile features that increase the speculative value on data collection and AI investment.
audaxdreik@pawb.social 4 months ago
Once you realize this, you also realize that there’s no going back for them either. If by some slim chance there’s enough resistance for them to pause or rollback some features, it’s only temporary. The overall course remains clear and they will continue to move in that direction regardless.
There disdain for you as a consumer could not be made any clearer.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is well said. So many people don’t get that of course these companies know you hate this shit.
They’re just trying to boost their stock value and violate your privacy harder.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Woah woah woah, lot’s not compare fabulous knee high rainbow socks with the malware MS is putting in their OS. That’s not fair to rainbows or socks.
SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
The implication is that they’ll have to jump ship to Linux, and thus become a member of the unixsocks community.
SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 4 months ago
I don’t think MS is out of touch with what the customer wants, I think they just stopped listening.
The fact is nobody is asking for this stuff.
I think the hope is that they build it anyway and then people will use/want it. AI is the big buzzword of the decade, just like ‘cloud’ was the big buzzword of last decade.
fluxx@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They are getting more aggressive by the day it seems. Luckily I’ve been windows free for 10 years now. And recently, I switched almost my entire extended family to Linux mint to great success. Only my brother in law still uses win, cause of games, specifically anti cheat - the last hurdle for many people.
52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
What’s the difference between big software companies and drug cartels? No, this is not the opening line of a joke.
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Drugs can at least be fun?
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Jokes aside, I loved Freelancer and that was Microsoft
Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Windows is the security risk
henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 months ago
Well, they won’t be accessing my personal folders and files because I just won’t use Windows. Thanks but no thanks. That’s really creepy.
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Pro move
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
As if recall wasn’t bad enough.
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Recall 2.0
TRock@feddit.dk 4 months ago
Soon i will only be using windows for those games that do not run on linux yet
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I’m lucky that the type of competitive shooters that all seem to be using kernel level anti-cheat, have never appealed to me. I ditched windows on my home stuff last year and there’s definitely no going back. Now if only industrial software writers would make Linux variants. Not going to hold my breath on that one though.
TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I literally just stopped playing those multiplayer games. A usable computer that doesn’t spy on me is more valuable than a handful of multiplayer games filled with jackasses. Plus once I learned what kernel level anti-cheat was, I understand why those games have so many problems and am completely unwilling to install their “anti-cheat” spyware that can just fuck with my kernel.
Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 4 months ago
At this point I can only assume that Microsoft is actively trying to punish me for using their products.
Flagstaff@programming.dev 4 months ago
Linux Mint Cinnamon is incredible, free to try/move to, and reversible.
megabyteX@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No, it’s not. Horrible and outdated in many aspects. Much better options out there.
stoy@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
Ever since Windows 7, Microsoft has shown to be a sadist.
Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 4 months ago
Windows Vista would like a word.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Windows ME has some shit to say… Then Windows 8 will be next to have a chat.
wuffah@lemmy.world 4 months ago
How long before you can’t turn this off or uninstall it, just like Edge, or Bitlocker, or TPM?
anon5621@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Just pirate windows server or other enterprise editions which can be used only by business
TommyJohnsFishSpot@lemy.lol 4 months ago
Absolutely. I spent like 3 hours the other day trying to get a W11 vm running; trying to emulate TPM and faking secure boot. I gave up and installed server in 5 minutes 😑
snoons@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Hey, I’ve seen nhis one before.
hansolo@lemmy.today 4 months ago
Oh, no thank you.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 4 months ago
So Microsoft is the pig whose committed to the AI chatbot ham. There’s no going back now for windows scanning my personal files for their own use. It’s that or nothing from Microsoft from now on.
BillyTheKid@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
My sib, they’ve been doing this kind of thing for years. This is not new. This is how they operate.
If you value your privacy at all don’t use MS products.