I’m always amazed that anyone actually thinks Donald Trump is a Christian lol
There's Jews for Jesus, are there Christians against Christ?
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MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 year ago
downpunxx@kbin.social 1 year ago
the racists don't care, and they're all racists
Okokimup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
According to my grandfather, the fact that he’s supposedly anti-abortio makes him a “man of god.”
HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I want to reduce abortions by providing easy access to sex ed and free condoms. Abortions should still be 100% legal and easy to get, but there ought be less of them cause they suck to go through.
sarcasticsunrise@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Ironic and apologies for your dumbass grandfather; Trump has probably paid for enough abortions and NDA’s related to fund the capital of a small town
Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Bet he wouldn’t vote for a conservative Muslim even if they opposed abortion.
CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Is your Grandfather aware there are people of other religions that are also anti-abortion or does his thought process not extend that far?
ApfelstrudelWAKASAGI@feddit.de 1 year ago
I mean, he probably is a christian, he’s just not very good at it.
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No. He would show up holding the Quran, the Torah, or even the Satanic Bible if he thought it would get him a single extra vote. The only person Donald Trump worships is Donald Trump. He is incapable of believing that there could ever be any authority higher than himself.
sarcasticsunrise@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Ain’t no way. The only “religion” that shitbird subscribes to is the narcissism of self-adoration. He doesn’t believe in anything, his life is eternally rooted in being seen. So yeah, a classic GOP Christian, right on
CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
I’m 100% convinced that if Christ came today the majority of white American Christians would call him a demon and one of them will end up shooting him. Especially if he came back as a man of color that spread anti-capitalist ideas and hung out with the poor, sick, and unwanted. They’d never, ever, tolerate that.
IF Christianity is true, a large amount of souls of self-proclaimed “Christians” are in danger of damnation. They are actually doing Satan’s work for him. The issue are the ones 100% certain they are “saved” while spouting racist, evil things at the same time. How do you talk to people like that? How do you convince them that they are in fact 100% wrong? I’m an atheist, so most wouldn’t even take me seriously.
normanwall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Healed the sick Conservative Christians : “Healthcare is communism!” Welcomed weary travelers Conservative Christians : “Send them back to their own country!” Forgives other people he believes goes against the teachings of god and cares for them Conservative Christians : “Your love is not natural and you shouldn’t exist!”
They just want to feel like they are righteous and good
PerCarita@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
You forgot the best past. He hung out with a group of men and one woman, and the one woman wasn’t any of the men’s girlfriend. Conservative Christians would perhaps thought this was an unnatural arrangement.
Adalast@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There was actually an opening to an episode of American Gods that has that exact scenario. He literally walks across the Rio Grande and after he gets to shore a bunch of hilbillies with religious iconography alongside their confederate flags roll up in their lifted trucks and shoot him with a fully automatic weapon.
CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
LOL wow.
Makes me wonder how many racists watched that episode and thought to themselves “that would never be me” while fully supporting the mentality behind it.
peto@lemm.ee 1 year ago
So what you are saying is that now is the time to invest in gold AR-15 necklaces?
Korne127@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, that’s what I always think. For me (German), Christianity is mostly acceptance of other people, empathy, caring for people who have it worse than you, loving your next, etc. Which in policies is… being for welfare, donating, accepting LGBTQ+ and supporting them, etc.
Evangelicals have always confused me because they are against everything Jesus stood for.
HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Christianity doesn’t have hell or damnation. It has Sheol, which is a waiting room for souls
yata@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
A lot of Christian denominations would disagree with you on this. It is also a bit absurd to make absolute claims about what Christianity is and is not because it varies greatly from denomination to denomination (none of which has a monopoly on their interpretation of the bible).
eestileib@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Better take another look at the Bible, because Jesus disagrees. In fact, he is kind of a fetishist about all the suffering he will visit on those who don’t worship him.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Mark 9:
47 And if your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell, 48 where
“‘the worms that eat them do not die,
and the fire is not quenched.’[d]
GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Trump isn’t -The- Antichrist, because that was likely just a bible story warning of populist leaders. But he is -an- antichrist.
He’s not the first and probably not the last, but he has the power to make deeply religious people openly forsake their religion…and if that’s not an antichrist, I don’t know what is.
CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Agreed.
If I was a Christian (I aint but just work with me here), I’d honestly believe Trump was being used by Satan to lead the Shepard’s beloved sheep astray.
mrginger@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I stopped going to church when I realized how hypocritical the people who attended churches are. “Love thy neighbor, except those gays, brown people, liberals, pro-choicers( except when I need, or my teenage daughter needs an abortion), anyone who lives on the west coast, drives a Tesla, eats an avocado, believes in vaccines, voted for Biden, didn’t vote for Trump, wants raise minimum wage, oh and definitely those climate change believers. They can all go rot in hell. 'Merica!!! Fuckin Yeehaww!! Pew pew pew!!!”
Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I wasn’t raised with a religion (parents were both atheists), but when i was around 15-16 I got curious. I started attending the youth group at the local feel good church up the street and literally every single sermon was about how teenagers have urges, but we must resist them as sex before marriage was a terrible sin.
Well after a couple months of weekly don’t have sex meetings the cops showed up to arrest the youth pastor for something like 27 counts of statutory rape. He had been sleeping with all the girls in the youth group ranging from 18 all the way down to the 13 year-olds.
The only reason he got caught was because two of the girls got into an argument about how they were his one true love, and one of them called the cops on the other one because she got called a bad name. That ended my very short experiment with religion, bunch of fucking hypocrites pretending they’re better than other people while doing exactly what they tell others not to… at least the sex I was having was legal.
HardlightCereal@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It sounds like the sum total of your experiments with religion were experiments with Christianity. That isn’t a very sound methodology for experimentation.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 year ago
If there’s one thing everyone can say about Trump, it’s “this guy isn’t on my side”.
It just takes longer and comes as more of a surprise to some than others.
HejMedDig@feddit.dk 1 year ago
Well, some say money talks, and I’m sure Trump’s on the side of the Dollar 😛
But considering how many people he have thrown under the bus so far, it’s amazing how many that are still waiting in line
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
I can’t see how any lawyers work for him without prefacing any contracts with “money up front”.
CitizenKong@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I mean, every Satanist is also a Christian in a way.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There is still hope that those pastors get smart and actually voice against Trump. From a Christian perspective, Trump leaves a lot to be desired. Just point out a sin or two of the orange-haired idiot in each of your weekly sermons to make the congregation see the light. You will not run out of fresh sins until the next decade.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I don’t think so. The flock will migrate to a different church more in tune with what they want to believe.
normanwall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is too late, conservative media has created a monster that even the honest religious leaders cannot control
pozbo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s how you get to “evangelicals think Jesus is a leftist pussy”.
Hypnos9@artemis.camp 1 year ago
"Jews" for Jesus and Messianic "Judaism" were invented to lure Jews into Christianity. They are Christians who want to be quirky.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Jesus intended his movement to be for Jews, as a Jewish reformation of their own faith. Paul was the one that changed it and made it for gentiles.
Jesus seemingly believed himself to be a prophet. He titles himself “son of man” which God called the prophet Jeremiah, and he says “a prophet is not welcome in his hometown” when he went home and no one took him seriously. He was mislabeled, and only the gospel written over a hundred years after (John) made him out to be literally God. Nowhere in the first and oldest (Mark) does he ever make any claims of the sort.
Paul was likely a Roman plant (he was Herodian, and converted suspiciously quickly while simultaneously preaching contradictory messages compared to Jesus.) So his attempts to keep the movement alive were focused primarily on outsiders, since it was clear that the Jewish people weren’t convinced and converting to “the way” in significant numbers.
Funny that, the people who are literally from the place where it happened don’t consider it to be true but a metric fuck ton of people who got second or third hand accounts do. Hmmm… If that was anything but Christianity, Christians would be able to see the flaw in that a mile away.
sndrtj@feddit.nl 1 year ago
What would the Romans have hoped to gain by letting someone proselytize that notoriously incompatible-with-the-pantheon religion to the layfolk?
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Every Messianic Jew I’ve ever met has been born into that religion. Maybe there are some Jews who convert and become Messianic Jews, but I think it’s rare.
downpunxx@kbin.social 1 year ago
Protip: Jews for Jesus aren't Jews, I hope I've cleared that up for anyone still confused.
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 year ago
I misread that as Jaws for jesus and now i’m oddly disappointed
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Technically, all Christians are Jews for Jesus.
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Bearigator@ttrpg.network 1 year ago
I’m not familiar with Raw Story, can anybody confirm their reliability in general? This article seems solid but the name makes me think of all of those weird right wing “news” websites. Looking over it a bit it doesn’t seem to be one of those though so idk.
band_on_the_run@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s a progressive new site, and this story links to an NPR interview with the pastor who says Christianity is crisis:
“It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — “turn the other cheek” — [and] to have someone come up after to say, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?” And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, “I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,” the response would not be, “I apologize.” The response would be, “Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak.” And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”
So it’s definitely a real story.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 year ago
I take all articles with a grain of salt. Look at the person who wrote the article, look at what they post and think for yourself if that person has bias or not.
Most of the time people will have a bias which is normal for humans, we tribilize into groups.
signor@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Christians lost the plot long long ago.
AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 year ago
So many older people tend to wonder why the younger generation do not support religion yet this headline definitely should give you a clue.
Imagine thinking the teachings of a man who is supposed to the son of the literal God they worship is weak.
Imagine the disrespect those people are throwing when they insult the man who died for your sins according to their faith.
If I were God, I most certainly would not let those people into heaven because clearly they don’t understand that you aren’t supposed to absolutely disrespect his teachings through Jesus if you want to go up and not down.
moosetwin@lemmy.world 1 year ago
man I came here for funny not politics
paddirn@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yea, I hate Trump as much or more as anybody, but this really feels off-topic and too political, even for a shitposting community.
FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Evangelists?
FARTYSHARTBLAST@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Yeah, most of them seem to be these days…
Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes. All of them.
Cornpop@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sounds like satanists I guess.
Jordan117@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sounds like the old sky-cake dodge is wearing thin for these pieces of shit.
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albertsy2@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Lol
_tinker_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
db2@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Fixed the fix: “Leaders of Religion That Relies on Internalized Cognitive Dissonance Surprised When A More Insidious Manipulation Out-Manipulates Them”
Draces@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ehhh centuries of monarchs, cardinals, popes, etc were pretty equivalently insidious as the new guys
downpunxx@kbin.social 1 year ago
yes, lol, literally the most intelligent DNA pool per capita on the planet, being "manipulated" by low IQ harry & henrietta christlover and their "insidiousness", after staying together as a cohesive group for 3500 years, come what may in the face of inquisition and holocaust, hahahahaha, if only they saw them coming huh
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Internalized cognitive dissonance?