cross-posted from: lemmy.nz/post/29912814
I am immediately skeptical of the 90% claim. There are a lot of Windows games, going back decades! Not even 90% of those work on Windows, let alone Linux!
Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever
Submitted 3 days ago by fin@sh.itjust.works to games@lemmy.world
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RedFrank24@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Actually, once you go far enough into the past, Linux has better support for legacy Windows software than modern Windows does. The claim might be true if they’re counting a lot of shovelware.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
A lot of those older games that don’t run on Windows to DO run on Linux now.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And many games haven’t been assessed either. I plug my Steam account into ProtonDB, and apparently 51% of my games can be made to run perfectly on Linux, 10% are various levels of broken, but the remaining 39% has no information. I guess it’s because I have many indie games in my library.
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Rip Microsoft
Bosht@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Lots of off topic comment threads so I don’t mind adding my own: going to make the Linux dive here soon and just had a general question on VR. I recently got a mostlySteam setup (sensors / controllers) with a Vive Pro 2 headset. Overall is VR supported? Is it limited to certain headsets? I was thinking of getting a Bigscreen Beyond 2, if that makes a difference. Any info appreciated.
k4ro@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Usually is limited by headset/controllers support. Take a look at Linux VR Adventures Wiki for compatibility on Linux.
Bosht@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Thanks!
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
need some support from anti-cheat
Mwa@thelemmy.club 2 days ago
its fine, cause no user program should run in the kernel. unless its a driver.
Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Some shitty games will hold out, but as long as the majority works better under Linux, I’m fine with it.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I’m trying to get into Linux atm. Working at the kinks and work flow. I will dual boot for the exception that I really want to play that doesn’t run on Linux.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Be careful, windows can fuck up some dual boot setups and make the Linux side worse
Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I tried Solus back in 2018 with Wine. The only game that didn’t work properly was Mass Effect Andromeda (if memory serves correctly); it kept crashing to the desktop a few minutes in.
I didn’t want to have to do debugging both at work and outside of work, so I switched back to Windows.
I would be willing to try again maybe, if I can find the will and time over the weekend to setup a hybrid Linux and Windows implementation on my PC
fin@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Hmm… protondb says it’s playable, so worth trying maybe?
Also, I’d recommend not dual-booting your PC because it would be a pain.
Ardyssian@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Eh I’ve already played it on Windows - it was some time back.
I don’t think I can fully abandon Windows as I have some work software that is only meant to run in Windows, so either I dual boot or get a separate machine for work things.
KaranPage@lemmy.world 1 day ago
nice
Rusty@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
It’s great that the number of games playable on Linux is rising. But the lack of mods is stopping me from switching. I tried to play Civilization 6 and it’s hard to play it without many quality of life improvement mods.
Krompus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You can mod games on Linux though, some just need a bit of fiddling, just look it up. Never tried Civ 6 but people say it’s possible.
nightlily@leminal.space 2 days ago
It’s definitely doable but I won’t pretend it’s a pleasant process compared to what people are used to with Windows modding, and Wine overhead can mean a large unoptimised mess of Stardew Valley/Rimworld/Skyrim mods are going to perform worse.
87Six@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I can’t wait to be banned for playing online from linux
hopesdead@startrek.website 3 days ago
Okay, but how far back does this go? It can’t really be that all games in existence that ran on Windows is being counted. Is it?
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 days ago
The chart is based on ProtonDB, which covers all Steam games.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
When you go far enough back less games work on windows then Linux just because you need emulation and compatibility software anyways for both of them.
And they tend to be better support on Linux.
Which is always a fun time.
fin@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
…Wine Is Not an Emulator
paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
First paragraph indicates that it’s pulling from ProtonDB’s list of games:
However, the most recent stats from ProtonDB (via Boiling Steam) highlight that we are edging towards a magnificent milestone. The latest distilled data shows that almost 90% of Windows games now run on Linux.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You completely glossed over the question he was asking.
90% of Windows games…but, from how far back? Are we talking 1988 with Windows 1.0? Are we talking 1995 onwards with Windows 95? Are we talking modern Windows with Windows 10 onwards? Are we strictly talking Windows 11?
There are a lot of logical jumping off points for where you can start measuring, each with a logical arguement with why you start there, but also with multiple logical arguements for why thats a bad idea.
Gladaed@feddit.org 2 days ago
Not all games are created equally.
dil@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
The thing is I swapped, whenever I start using something and I dont want it to become popular because everything somehow gets ruined when it gets popular, it ends up getting popular. Im usually a late “early” adopter.
dil@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Basically if I stopped being put off by it and felt I wanted to switch, I think it may be viable for many more ppl in a year or two, or already, I swapped like almost a year ago, I typically don’t like stuff til it feels intuitive, instantly good.
Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
This is great but my MSI laptop wasn’t very compatible with Linux.
fin@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Like how? You may need some proprietary firmwares.
KaranPage@lemmy.world 1 day ago
dfsdfsdfsdf
dellish@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That’s great and all but the two things that hold me back from going 100% Linux are kernel-level anticheat, and lack of graphics card acceleration in virtual environments. Once we have those I’ll be happy.
Visual Basic added to Libre Office would be really nice too, but I get that it’s not particularly feasible.
Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Nit having Malware Anti-Cheat support is a good thing. Hopefully it will continue this way until people realize that it’s not worth giving shitty companies like EA access to your online banking passwords just to pretend to shoot 11-year-olds in the head.
dellish@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Agreed. I should have said letting the anticheat THINK it has kernel access, the same way WINE makes Windows programs think they’re on a Windows machine. I know this is an oversimplification and frankly I don’t even know what kernel-level looks like, but there has got to be a workaround that doesn’t drain resources too much.
bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
Shut your mouth about VB… 😁
dellish@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Why? I have written a lot of custom macros and created forms to assist filling data fields in large spreadsheets. I have written written macros that can open a CSV, comb through the contents and pick out the data I need to fill workbooks.
I’m not saying I’m especially tied to VB itself, I actually find it to be a pretty stupid language, but I do miss being able to write my on functions and effectly use Excel as a pre built GUI for whatever I’m trying to do. If there’s an alternative in Libre Office that I’m missing please point it out.
Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 days ago
Can confirm the viable gaming. Some need fairly annoying workarounds that require some regular fiddling to adjust (looking at you EA/Origin with your silly launcher), but in the end it’s definitely playable.
Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Linux gaming is good enough that I would consider not getting the Playstation 6 if I didn’t have kids and didn’t want to watch basketball through the nba league pass.
I’m trying to get my kids to play with the Steam Deck, but it’s honestly still not as good as a Playstation for such a use.
Still it’s going the right way.
psyc@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Has support for DP 2.1 or HDR in Wayland made any improvements yet? I tried Pop_OS and had lots of issues with this
github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/…/816
I’ve been following this GitHub issue waiting for this change to make it into the next nvidia driver release but still suspect this won’t address HDR. Obviously first world problems for high end hardware but it’s one of the last pieces holding me back from trying Linux on my desktop
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 2 days ago
HDR
HDR works on KDE and GNOME desktop environments. KDE is currently the better choice if HDR support is important.
As for software:
- Not included in official Proton builds yet but can be enabled in Proton-GE with 2 environment variables
- mpv works fine
- Kodi gets support in the next major version
- Firefox and Chromium have experimental support
Can’t speak for DP 2.1 since I have an AMD GPU and no hardware that uses DP 2.1 (yet).
psyc@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Appreciate the info! I had been trying out the new Cosmic DE that ships with pop os and I’m guessing that’s still lacking HDR but did feel very performant. I’ll have to see if switching is worth the trade off once they nvidia driver update gets released
Meatwagon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
I use a quest 2 headset through my desktop via desktop streamer for VRchat. Would this all work on linux? it’s already a pain on windows.
k4ro@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
This page says it works, but it also might be a pain to setup.
poke@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I think virtualdesktop works, but don’t quote me on that.
do_not_pm_me@thelemmy.club 2 days ago
I think it used to work officially, but last I heard they dropped official support.