I wonder if this applies to those of us with the non Ai version.
Microsoft announces it will automatically install the Copilot AI app alongside desktop versions of 365 products like Word, Excel and PowerPoint this October
Submitted 6 months ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
Rakudjo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So if Microshaft is going to install these products automatically with my copy of Windows, the tools are free to use, right?
I may finally pull the plug on my full conversation to Linux this or next year. I already dual-boot and have been a single inconvenience away from kicking Windows Spyware Edition to the curb, anyways.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So if Microshaft is going to install these products automatically with my copy of Windows, the tools are free to use, right?
That’s sort of the joke of it all. Microsoft needs to tell their investors “We sold AI to 100 million new users!” to justify these bloated investments in OpenAI.
So instead of selling it as DLC, they just shave off a chunk of the 365 subscriptions and say “that was people paying for AI”.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Just get it done and don’t look back
shibco@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
It is truly shocking how shit Microsoft is under Nadella. It’s like 100× worse than Gates or Balmer. Wild.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Microsoft was always bad. But now that they’ve saturated the market, they need shadier and shittier gimmicks to keep justifying their inflated stock price.
Now they’re trying to sell businesses on AI as a full replacement for worker headcount. It’s a bald faced lie. But with enough money spent on marketing and gimmicks like this…
Chais@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
What’s really wild is that people put up with this shit.
For me the straw that broke the camel’s back was finding out thatsystem32is owned by the installer user and I’d have to jump through a bunch of hoops to make any changes there.
And here people are like: “Sure, show me ads in the OS I bought.” While the apologists go: “You can disable those in the registry.”
I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO!The moment I have to wrestle the OS for control over my computer it ceases to be useful and becomes a burden.
octobob@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
The worst is the stranglehold windows has in the professional world. Shit I’m not even an office worker and I have to deal with ads and now AI just working in the shop and using a PC for Outlook, Excel, Word, etc.
Adobe has been getting really bad too. I shouldn’t have to close like 4 different banners, popups, involuntary AI “summary” suggestions every time I open a PDF. The literal only thing I open on adobe is electrical schematics. It doubt it could summarize drawings exported from AutoCAD and even if it could, why would I even want that? I need to test panels, not have something tell me “this is a schematic”
world_cavve@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Balmer and Gates worked their way up, especially Gates from basically nothing. They understood mostly what their customers wanted. But Nadella only understands short term revenue. Not the longtime customers.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Gates’s Mom was an IBM executive. He got handed a multi million dollar contract before he was out of undergrad. That’s not “from nothing”. The man was practically coronated
Rooty@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They are really going balls to the wall with this AI crap, huh?
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve converted my whole family to LibreOffice. fuck MS
Matriks404@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Jesus Fucking Christ. Why would anyone who wants to write a simple letter or some other basic stuff in Word (which is what most of home users do) want any of this crap?
krunklom@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Krunklom announces he’s going to keep using Linux and to kiss his fucking asshole, gently, and delicately, after Krunklom has taken a shit, Microsoft.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Gross
regedit@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
My birthday is next week and for it, I’ll be moving to openSUSE on my gaming rig and server. I’m both nervous and excited! If only I could get them to let me do that at work!
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 months ago
regedit@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Haha, thanks!
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Meh. Any word processor or spreadsheet works for me, as long as I don’t get pestered.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 months ago
fuck no. I am not installing their SaaS bullshit. I have old editions for a reason.
fox2263@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes because that went so well for teams.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Which version lol. Teams? Teams new? Teams classic? Personal teams?
4am@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Linc for Business? Skype for Business? OneDrive? SharePoint?
Literally no one on earth, from the admins to the users, likes fucking anything Microsoft does anymore.
Can we please please please tell them to fuck all the way off?
Just because it wasn’t planned doesn’t mean they can’t be obsolete.
FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I have never been more glad that I made the switch over to Linux.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Yeah, I’ve dumped all mikroshite from my devices for FOSS software. Only my work laptop has it and I never do anything personal with that. Libre Office, Thunderbird, Notesnook. Also considering Obsidian and Joplin.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Obsidian is sadly not FOSS, but aside of that, it’s amazing (and entirely user-supported, not relying on VC profit-seeking).
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Which one is the Excel replacement and how does it compare? We all know companies buy office mostly just for excel…
4am@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
LibreOffice Calc. I think it still has some performance issues vs Excel with extremely large files, and it can only do 1024 columns. Also LibreOffice Basic can do a lot of what VBA could but the syntax is different and I don’t think it integrates well with the rest of the system like VBA’s COM integration (as unsafe as that was)
peetabix@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I was using a work computer yesterday and I wanted to copy some lines of text to use again later. So i tried to open Notepad, it wasn’t installed on this machine. I had to open word instead. I thought Notepad came as standard?
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Notepad is on there. It’s just shit now. Saves automatically, reopens your last notepads, has copilot crap. FFS. I usually used notepad as a scratch pad to dump shit temporarily.
Today I opened it on a client’s computer and they had 18 sage files or something automatically open back up. Problem was they were temporary files for doing bank transfer or whatever.
Notepad barked about the file kissing for each one. I killed it from task manager and had to use word. 🤮
BangCrash@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What?
altphoto@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Happy card making!.. What do you guys use word for at home other than training Microsoft’s AI?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 months ago
testing my printer when something prints funny
Beebabe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I use it for making materials for special education usages. Word processor almost never.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’ll be able to disable it, like anything else.
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Isn’t it already bundle with Windows 11? Article doesn’t say what’s the difference.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
It’s absolutely everywhere. Have you checked fricking Notepad recently? (I do like the other improvements to it though, tangent)
I don’t care on my work PC, not my data, but it’s concerning how little control or oversight we’re given as users (approx. none).pycorax@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Might I suggest Notepads (yea with an s) instead? It’s a 3rd party app that’s similar to how Notepad works. The dev actually started work on it back when Notepad was pretty basic and has pretty much all of the new Notepad improvements and no AI nonsense way before Microsoft started revamping Notepad.
MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
Oh no!
Anyway…
joel_feila@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wow if only anyone saw this coming
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I can picture the MS execs going “Shit, we still have 1,000,000 Windows users that are not feeding us their data every second, we’re not enshitifying fast enough. Step on it”.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Honestly it’s probably an upgrade for O365 but people won’t want to hear that. It’s cloud based shit being integrated with a cloud based graphics cards being able to search and assist with that functionality. If we don’t want our shit on a cloud, we shouldn’t use O365. Copilot isn’t changing much. Their software took its course, just move to libre office and if there is a big enough market, someone will fill the gap if they don’t have the features they need from libre, but I don’t know of any I need.
Smith6612@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Companies are locked to Microsoft Office whether we like it or not. Many don’t seem willing to contribute to LibreOffice to make it beat out Excel in terms of performance, or to replace PowerBI, or any of the many Add-ins that are specifically written for Excel by Governments, etc.
We also both know, the moment any country or significantly large business starts talking about replacing Microsoft products, Microsoft is going to take notice and do the absolute bare minimum to save themselves.
I say the same thing about Cisco Meraki (not Meraki Go). Who likes paying yearly for Cisco network hardware that bricks itself and takes down your network if you forget to pay the licensing? At that point it’s not even about having the support contract to get firmware updates and support. It’s just a company dragging you by the balls for recurring revenue, after you already paid for the hardware. But companies keep buying that crap because the product makes management of the hardware easy enough to make it seem valuable.
LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Okay okay linux this and that but what am I supposed to do for phone security and browsing? Please help me, nerds 🙏
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Podcast that van help: surveillancereport.tech
Tldr, an iPhone is okay and has decent default out of the box, but going with grapheneos is the best move.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well graphene OS I have been told isn’t the best, and saw an article earlier about people who are now being targeted in Spain for having a pixel and arrested so it won’t be long before that spreads. I’m hoping to find something else but we need mass support so it isn’t targeted while it not being a large corporation
joel_feila@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You can use a degoogled phone. Poxel phones can ise graphene os. Other but not all phones can use lineage os. And murena makes a phone that can use their e os
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Okay so as someone in the U.S. that wants phone calls, texts, and apps of my choosing, what can I use. Because I have to assume every Google pixel will be targeted if they have already started in Spain. Trump’s a one upper
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s enough for me to quit my last two dual boot rigs. Guess I’ll have to figure out how to get over binging 12 fitgirl release.quickly only to realize they all sucked anyway
boomzilla@programming.dev 6 months ago
I’d wait for sales of your games instead. I tried one fitgirl release on EndeavourOS I had from my Windows days (which ran perfectly on there) recently. Tried with Bottles and Lutris and the latter worked eventually but the performance was subpar and it was quite a hassle to get it to run as I had to try many proton versions with a lot of restarts and black screens. Steam and Heroic games run fine though.
miked@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I was dual booting for a bit on two computers but didn’t get too far away from Windows.
Finally reinstalled only Ubuntu on my laptop. I use my laptop until I need something on Windows then figure out how to do it on Ubuntu.
Got Syncthing running on both computers early this week to replace Box. Still need to see if I can run it on my NAS. Then need to get Back blaze sorted out.
massacre@lemmy.world 6 months ago
this is the way
Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I dare them to do it on my Pop OS! computers! I don’t even run a windows VM anymore.
It feel liberating! No more Stockholm syndrome ✌️
Guidy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The problem isn’t co-pilot. Co-pilot is reasonably useful if you’re careful.
The problem is that it will almost certainly cost extra.
And that’s fucking terrible.
onslaught545@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
The problem is absolutely copilot. Microsoft is basically force installing spyware.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That happened months ago, they simply used a little slight-of-hand to hide it.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Use Linux.
Use LibreOffice.
Use LibreWolf or WaterFox.
Free yourselves.ripcord@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you’re in the US, soon this will be arrestable for enabling terrorism.
4am@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
They might as well kill me if they take away my ability to tinker with computers.
The orange fuck’s vengeance tour for taking away his pedo playtime ain’t making it that far.
FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I don’t have any of this shit installed, could copilot already be on my windows 11?