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Use LibreOffice.
Use LibreWolf or WaterFox.
Free yourselves.
Microsoft announces it will automatically install the Copilot AI app alongside desktop versions of 365 products like Word, Excel and PowerPoint this October
Submitted 5 weeks ago by mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
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BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
ripcord@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If you’re in the US, soon this will be arrestable for enabling terrorism.
4am@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
They might as well kill me if they take away my ability to tinker with computers.
The orange fuck’s vengeance tour for taking away his pedo playtime ain’t making it that far.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This message is brought to you by Microsoft, for Linux Mint, and Linux Mint Debian Edition.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
And Bazzite, and Fedora, and OpenSUSE.
Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
I found Linux Mint Cinnamon edition to be an incredibly easy transition. Just make sure you disable secure boot and use the drive format that the installer recommends.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s the one i want to try, but i’ve got too much going on right now to rip that bandaid
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Life has been so good with Linux.
twikz@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
Linux is inconvenient at times but so is Microsoft at all times. Atleast you can fix your problems on Linux
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I can picture the MS execs going “Shit, we still have 1,000,000 Windows users that are not feeding us their data every second, we’re not enshitifying fast enough. Step on it”.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Honestly it’s probably an upgrade for O365 but people won’t want to hear that. It’s cloud based shit being integrated with a cloud based graphics cards being able to search and assist with that functionality. If we don’t want our shit on a cloud, we shouldn’t use O365. Copilot isn’t changing much. Their software took its course, just move to libre office and if there is a big enough market, someone will fill the gap if they don’t have the features they need from libre, but I don’t know of any I need.
Smith6612@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Companies are locked to Microsoft Office whether we like it or not. Many don’t seem willing to contribute to LibreOffice to make it beat out Excel in terms of performance, or to replace PowerBI, or any of the many Add-ins that are specifically written for Excel by Governments, etc.
We also both know, the moment any country or significantly large business starts talking about replacing Microsoft products, Microsoft is going to take notice and do the absolute bare minimum to save themselves.
I say the same thing about Cisco Meraki (not Meraki Go). Who likes paying yearly for Cisco network hardware that bricks itself and takes down your network if you forget to pay the licensing? At that point it’s not even about having the support contract to get firmware updates and support. It’s just a company dragging you by the balls for recurring revenue, after you already paid for the hardware. But companies keep buying that crap because the product makes management of the hardware easy enough to make it seem valuable.
FarrellPerks@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
I have never been more glad that I made the switch over to Linux.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today 5 weeks ago
Microsoft fuck you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
abc@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Even though I have a free student subscription, I uninstalled all Microsoft Office last month because the constant ‘do you want to use copilot???’ was infuriating.
Broken@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
To be fair, I use excel (2019, not 365) frequently and I’m never prompted for anything. I had to jerry rig the installation so only excel installed and not the full suite of products, but other than that it’s been clean and perfect. Sure, I’m missing some features from 365, but one of those missing features is copilot. Everything else is perfect (and I need data sources and some other functions that aren’t in Calc which is why I still use it)
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
if i have xlookup and sumifs i can process most data i need. can’t do any real statistical analysis, but it’s just excel and it can prep that data for me.
restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Yep, I managed to find a license for 2019 several years aho and have just transferred it to my computers and I’ve upgraded. No copilot or prompts to upgrade.
I’m still testdriving libreoffice to try to dump ms entirely but I like having a backup available.
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I read that as John Travolta in Battlefield Earth angrily asking Barry Pepper if he wanted to eat a rat.
DO YOU WANT LUNCH?!
shibco@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
It is truly shocking how shit Microsoft is under Nadella. It’s like 100× worse than Gates or Balmer. Wild.
Chais@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
What’s really wild is that people put up with this shit.
For me the straw that broke the camel’s back was finding out thatsystem32is owned by the installer user and I’d have to jump through a bunch of hoops to make any changes there.
And here people are like: “Sure, show me ads in the OS I bought.” While the apologists go: “You can disable those in the registry.”
I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO!The moment I have to wrestle the OS for control over my computer it ceases to be useful and becomes a burden.
octobob@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
The worst is the stranglehold windows has in the professional world. Shit I’m not even an office worker and I have to deal with ads and now AI just working in the shop and using a PC for Outlook, Excel, Word, etc.
Adobe has been getting really bad too. I shouldn’t have to close like 4 different banners, popups, involuntary AI “summary” suggestions every time I open a PDF. The literal only thing I open on adobe is electrical schematics. It doubt it could summarize drawings exported from AutoCAD and even if it could, why would I even want that? I need to test panels, not have something tell me “this is a schematic”
world_cavve@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Balmer and Gates worked their way up, especially Gates from basically nothing. They understood mostly what their customers wanted. But Nadella only understands short term revenue. Not the longtime customers.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Gates’s Mom was an IBM executive. He got handed a multi million dollar contract before he was out of undergrad. That’s not “from nothing”. The man was practically coronated
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Microsoft was always bad. But now that they’ve saturated the market, they need shadier and shittier gimmicks to keep justifying their inflated stock price.
Now they’re trying to sell businesses on AI as a full replacement for worker headcount. It’s a bald faced lie. But with enough money spent on marketing and gimmicks like this…
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Its worth understanding that microsoft, like most companies, is rapidly rebranding most of their existing stuff as “AI”. A couple weeks (months?) back at work we managed to convince the boss that maybe it wasn’t a good idea to put all of our sensitive internal data into Teams and convinced him to turn off copilot. Literally minutes later he lost his shit because auto-transcripts no longer worked and IT turned it back on.
But that is what we are seeing with a LOT of companies. ANYTHING that can be sold as “AI” is getting re-branded as it. So it makes perfect sense that MS will rebrand it as “installing copilot AI” rather than “not removing clippy”.
That said: MS have also been ahead of the curve on adding even more bullshit and spyware to everything they do so… have you heard the good word about Linux? Libre Office gets personal users most of the way there (and if they worked on their documentation, all the way there. I STILL don’t fucking know how to get row/column headings to work in Calc…). And for business/power use, the browser/cloud based solutions are probably what you want anyway since none of that data should live on your laptop/desktop and should instead live in the company approved data store.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Hear me out. I work in fintech. Medium size company. Super duper strict compliance and security. Although not as strict as what I’ve seen and heard of from big data and military contractors. Still. Experian for example mandated us that as a third party API data processor everyone that even goes near their raw credit score data be in an audited room that has a camera pointing at them at all times and a camera be pointed at their computer screens at all times as well. That’s right, not on-device recording, but CCTV. The alternatíve was that we don’t see their data at all. So we opted to encrypt all data from them at all times instead. At rest, in transit, doesn’t matter. No visibility of it to us at all, except for the final numeric score you see on your credit reports and nothing else. And this is just one vendor we adhere to. There’s tons of PII running through us. You get the ghist.
Come AI, suddenly our slack has an AI channel, we have a director of AI(?), and then a whole department. And of course the AI-assisted tools proliferate and QA and engineering are both mandated to perform more after laying off 30% of our devs. And every product manager’s demo is talking about AI.
Meanwhile security said that no more Ubuntu and Fedora imaged laptops are allowed on our VPN. Windows 11 and the occasional Mac only.
Highly confidential business meetings are held with gong or other AI assist tools recording and summarizing everything. Code is being written with agentic AI. Internal-only docs are smoothed over with gpt. And all this with the notion that we should trust them that they don’t extract data from these enterprise subscription products.
My only hope is that there’s still some semblance of sanity left in this company because they have recently fired someone that proclaimed themselves being MAGA.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
we should trust them that they don’t extract data from these enterprise subscription products.
LMAO of course they use that data for their AI training, now and forever, and they won’t even ask anymore.
I guess there is at least one person who should be fired urgently: the one who said that they don’t do that.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
I STILL don’t fucking know how to get row/column headings to work in Calc…
Have you tried with asking Copi…OUCH!!! /s
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Funny enough, I actually have tried with chatgpt. The problem is the same one with all these LLM based tools: Training data.
And if you actually google this yourself, the vast majority of what you find are people not understanding what is being asked or referencing a REALLY REALLY old UI (possibly dating to the open or even star days). And the LLMs are effectively scraping that so you get the equivalent of “This was already answered HERE. Closing duplicate question” response.
(I usually DO end up figuring it out after a bit of deep diving when I really care but I go through so much FUD in the process that I inevitably forget a month or two later).
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I STILL don’t fucking know how to get row/column headings to work in Calc
I’m assuming you are referring to column filters and/or keeping the first row at the top of the screen:
- Filter: Select Header Row > Data > Auto Filter
- Row Freeze: View > Freeze Cells > Freeze First Row
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Even better, click on the first cell (A1) if your headers are at the top, and then click on the filter button. Done.
Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
I dare them to do it on my Pop OS! computers! I don’t even run a windows VM anymore.
It feel liberating! No more Stockholm syndrome ✌️
krunklom@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Krunklom announces he’s going to keep using Linux and to kiss his fucking asshole, gently, and delicately, after Krunklom has taken a shit, Microsoft.
fox2263@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes because that went so well for teams.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Which version lol. Teams? Teams new? Teams classic? Personal teams?
4am@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Linc for Business? Skype for Business? OneDrive? SharePoint?
Literally no one on earth, from the admins to the users, likes fucking anything Microsoft does anymore.
Can we please please please tell them to fuck all the way off?
Just because it wasn’t planned doesn’t mean they can’t be obsolete.
joel_feila@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wow if only anyone saw this coming
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
fuck no. I am not installing their SaaS bullshit. I have old editions for a reason.
Rakudjo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So if Microshaft is going to install these products automatically with my copy of Windows, the tools are free to use, right?
I may finally pull the plug on my full conversation to Linux this or next year. I already dual-boot and have been a single inconvenience away from kicking Windows Spyware Edition to the curb, anyways.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So if Microshaft is going to install these products automatically with my copy of Windows, the tools are free to use, right?
That’s sort of the joke of it all. Microsoft needs to tell their investors “We sold AI to 100 million new users!” to justify these bloated investments in OpenAI.
So instead of selling it as DLC, they just shave off a chunk of the 365 subscriptions and say “that was people paying for AI”.
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Just get it done and don’t look back
MrSulu@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Yeah, I’ve dumped all mikroshite from my devices for FOSS software. Only my work laptop has it and I never do anything personal with that. Libre Office, Thunderbird, Notesnook. Also considering Obsidian and Joplin.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Which one is the Excel replacement and how does it compare? We all know companies buy office mostly just for excel…
4am@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
LibreOffice Calc. I think it still has some performance issues vs Excel with extremely large files, and it can only do 1024 columns. Also LibreOffice Basic can do a lot of what VBA could but the syntax is different and I don’t think it integrates well with the rest of the system like VBA’s COM integration (as unsafe as that was)
kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Obsidian is sadly not FOSS, but aside of that, it’s amazing (and entirely user-supported, not relying on VC profit-seeking).
miked@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
I was dual booting for a bit on two computers but didn’t get too far away from Windows.
Finally reinstalled only Ubuntu on my laptop. I use my laptop until I need something on Windows then figure out how to do it on Ubuntu.
Got Syncthing running on both computers early this week to replace Box. Still need to see if I can run it on my NAS. Then need to get Back blaze sorted out.
massacre@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
this is the way
Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 5 weeks ago
They are also inserting AI shit into Notepad too.
Like, good luck getting me off from LibreOffice and Notepad++ assholes.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I miss npp so much on linux. Kate is pretty good though, but need to tinker with it quite a bit to make it fit my workflow. But it’s also really hard to search for solutions, because just searching the Web for “Kate” brings a lot of noise. I wonder why they’ve never thought of it.
Also, I figure that long time linux users probably solve for what I experience as pain points completely differently. Like for example they use vim a lot instead.
Tanoh@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I used (g)Vim on windows back when I used that
Aristoxene@feddit.fr 5 weeks ago
Take a look at Notepadqq or Notepad Next.
letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve converted my whole family to LibreOffice. fuck MS
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Isn’t it already bundle with Windows 11? Article doesn’t say what’s the difference.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
It’s absolutely everywhere. Have you checked fricking Notepad recently? (I do like the other improvements to it though, tangent)
I don’t care on my work PC, not my data, but it’s concerning how little control or oversight we’re given as users (approx. none).pycorax@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Might I suggest Notepads (yea with an s) instead? It’s a 3rd party app that’s similar to how Notepad works. The dev actually started work on it back when Notepad was pretty basic and has pretty much all of the new Notepad improvements and no AI nonsense way before Microsoft started revamping Notepad.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 weeks ago
Moved to Linux (popos on desktop, mint on ancient laptop). Been fine. Don’t miss windows. Play games and browse the web without issue.
DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Laughs in LibreOffice
betanumerus@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
I will immediately uninstall it. AI is a MAJOR hindrance to what I use MS Office for.
regedit@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
My birthday is next week and for it, I’ll be moving to openSUSE on my gaming rig and server. I’m both nervous and excited! If only I could get them to let me do that at work!
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
regedit@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Haha, thanks!
MasterNerd@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Oh no!
Anyway…
Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
That’s enough for me to quit my last two dual boot rigs. Guess I’ll have to figure out how to get over binging 12 fitgirl release.quickly only to realize they all sucked anyway
boomzilla@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
I’d wait for sales of your games instead. I tried one fitgirl release on EndeavourOS I had from my Windows days (which ran perfectly on there) recently. Tried with Bottles and Lutris and the latter worked eventually but the performance was subpar and it was quite a hassle to get it to run as I had to try many proton versions with a lot of restarts and black screens. Steam and Heroic games run fine though.
otacon239@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I have only one computer left running Windows and it’s getting the axe this month. While I’ve used Linux for many years as my primary OS, there are unfortunately some things that just don’t work well under Linux still.
I’m a sucker for bleeding edge graphics and I have a feeling this is where it will affect me the most. I’ve not had luck in the past with the most fancy working, so it’ll probably be a bit of a learning curve to get used to no longer having that access.
All that being said, every other part of the experience will be an improvement, so I’m not that upset about it.
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
For people who can spare $100-$200, I recommend buying an old ThinkPad or Dell business class laptop off eBay. Install Windows, update it, and stick it in your closet.
Because yes, sometimes you just need a Windows machine. Yes, VMs will cover most one off Windows requirements, but nothing beats. Just having windows installed on a device that you can pull out of your closet if something comes up.
Obviously this is not a solution for gaming, just the odd piece of software you need to run, or hardware you need to interface with.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
50 dollar Thinkpad is in my closet to use razer drivers so I can edit the onboard memory of my mice once in a blue moon.
Since editing anything beyond the side buttons on Linux is literally impossible.
Finding a mouse with mouse wheel tilt, three side buttons and two extra top buttons that’s also fully mappable AND not some piece of actual fucking shit super light mouse is more or less impossible.
Fuck this trend of light ass mice.
Lfrith@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Yeah I got a t480s and I love it. I got Linux and Windows dual booting on it. It’s a solid feeling laptop with the best laptop keyboard I’ve used. If willing to splurge more could get a newer ThinkPad with a Ryzen CPU, but t480s is enough for me.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Meh. Any word processor or spreadsheet works for me, as long as I don’t get pestered.
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
HumanOnEarth announces they will install Linux on all computers going forward
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
They’ll try to make Linux illegal soon.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Impossible. The cloud will fall. And locking the bootloader of computers won’t work.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Major fear is corruption of the culture. There are corpos and cunts that would benefit from Steam stopping linux suppory which is a major adoption driver. Nvidia is supposedly a more difficult gpu/cpu to use with linux and the current duopoly leans heavily in their favour.
m33@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Not illegal, rather not free. There is an ongoing effort to switch from GPL licencing to more restrictive licensing, allowing corpos to close the source of their distribution. Redhat-IBM is at work. All this camouflaged behind good intentions like rewriting GNU user land and libs in Rust because memory safety.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The best thing to do is to convert you closest family and friends. If you’re a “computer guy” the chances are you need to support their shitty computers anyway, so you might as well support an OS which is easier to maintain.