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Microsoft announces it will automatically install the Copilot AI app alongside desktop versions of 365 products like Word, Excel and PowerPoint this October

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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mr_MADAFAKA@lemmy.ml⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/microsoft-announces-it-will-automatically-install-the-copilot-ai-app-into-ms-365-alongside-word-excel-and-powerpoint-this-october-and-it-looks-like-theres-no-way-for-personal-users-to-opt-out/

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  • abc@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Even though I have a free student subscription, I uninstalled all Microsoft Office last month because the constant ‘do you want to use copilot???’ was infuriating.

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    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I read that as John Travolta in Battlefield Earth angrily asking Barry Pepper if he wanted to eat a rat.

      DO YOU WANT LUNCH?!

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    • Broken@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      To be fair, I use excel (2019, not 365) frequently and I’m never prompted for anything. I had to jerry rig the installation so only excel installed and not the full suite of products, but other than that it’s been clean and perfect. Sure, I’m missing some features from 365, but one of those missing features is copilot. Everything else is perfect (and I need data sources and some other functions that aren’t in Calc which is why I still use it)

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      • restingboredface@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep, I managed to find a license for 2019 several years aho and have just transferred it to my computers and I’ve upgraded. No copilot or prompts to upgrade.

        I’m still testdriving libreoffice to try to dump ms entirely but I like having a backup available.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        if i have xlookup and sumifs i can process most data i need. can’t do any real statistical analysis, but it’s just excel and it can prep that data for me.

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    • Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you want to use copilot???

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      • abc@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        😭😭😭

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  • otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have only one computer left running Windows and it’s getting the axe this month. While I’ve used Linux for many years as my primary OS, there are unfortunately some things that just don’t work well under Linux still.

    I’m a sucker for bleeding edge graphics and I have a feeling this is where it will affect me the most. I’ve not had luck in the past with the most fancy working, so it’ll probably be a bit of a learning curve to get used to no longer having that access.

    All that being said, every other part of the experience will be an improvement, so I’m not that upset about it.

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    • circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For people who can spare $100-$200, I recommend buying an old ThinkPad or Dell business class laptop off eBay. Install Windows, update it, and stick it in your closet.

      Because yes, sometimes you just need a Windows machine. Yes, VMs will cover most one off Windows requirements, but nothing beats. Just having windows installed on a device that you can pull out of your closet if something comes up.

      Obviously this is not a solution for gaming, just the odd piece of software you need to run, or hardware you need to interface with.

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      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        50 dollar Thinkpad is in my closet to use razer drivers so I can edit the onboard memory of my mice once in a blue moon.

        Since editing anything beyond the side buttons on Linux is literally impossible.

        Finding a mouse with mouse wheel tilt, three side buttons and two extra top buttons that’s also fully mappable AND not some piece of actual fucking shit super light mouse is more or less impossible.

        Fuck this trend of light ass mice.

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      • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah I got a t480s and I love it. I got Linux and Windows dual booting on it. It’s a solid feeling laptop with the best laptop keyboard I’ve used. If willing to splurge more could get a newer ThinkPad with a Ryzen CPU, but t480s is enough for me.

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  • Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are also inserting AI shit into Notepad too.

    Like, good luck getting me off from LibreOffice and Notepad++ assholes.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I miss npp so much on linux. Kate is pretty good though, but need to tinker with it quite a bit to make it fit my workflow. But it’s also really hard to search for solutions, because just searching the Web for “Kate” brings a lot of noise. I wonder why they’ve never thought of it.

      Also, I figure that long time linux users probably solve for what I experience as pain points completely differently. Like for example they use vim a lot instead.

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      • Aristoxene@feddit.fr ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Take a look at Notepadqq or Notepad Next.

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      • Tanoh@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I used (g)Vim on windows back when I used that

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  • DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Laughs in LibreOffice

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  • StephenMillersBarbie@lemmynsfw.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ohhh finally a great reason to follow through canceling Microsoft

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  • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thank God I’m out of there.

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  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Moved to Linux (popos on desktop, mint on ancient laptop). Been fine. Don’t miss windows. Play games and browse the web without issue.

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  • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Life has been so good with Linux.

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    • twikz@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Linux is inconvenient at times but so is Microsoft at all times. Atleast you can fix your problems on Linux

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      • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can you fix mine too?

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  • MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Microsoft fuck you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Its worth understanding that microsoft, like most companies, is rapidly rebranding most of their existing stuff as “AI”. A couple weeks (months?) back at work we managed to convince the boss that maybe it wasn’t a good idea to put all of our sensitive internal data into Teams and convinced him to turn off copilot. Literally minutes later he lost his shit because auto-transcripts no longer worked and IT turned it back on.

    But that is what we are seeing with a LOT of companies. ANYTHING that can be sold as “AI” is getting re-branded as it. So it makes perfect sense that MS will rebrand it as “installing copilot AI” rather than “not removing clippy”.

    That said: MS have also been ahead of the curve on adding even more bullshit and spyware to everything they do so… have you heard the good word about Linux? Libre Office gets personal users most of the way there (and if they worked on their documentation, all the way there. I STILL don’t fucking know how to get row/column headings to work in Calc…). And for business/power use, the browser/cloud based solutions are probably what you want anyway since none of that data should live on your laptop/desktop and should instead live in the company approved data store.

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    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hear me out. I work in fintech. Medium size company. Super duper strict compliance and security. Although not as strict as what I’ve seen and heard of from big data and military contractors. Still. Experian for example mandated us that as a third party API data processor everyone that even goes near their raw credit score data be in an audited room that has a camera pointing at them at all times and a camera be pointed at their computer screens at all times as well. That’s right, not on-device recording, but CCTV. The alternatíve was that we don’t see their data at all. So we opted to encrypt all data from them at all times instead. At rest, in transit, doesn’t matter. No visibility of it to us at all, except for the final numeric score you see on your credit reports and nothing else. And this is just one vendor we adhere to. There’s tons of PII running through us. You get the ghist.

      Come AI, suddenly our slack has an AI channel, we have a director of AI(?), and then a whole department. And of course the AI-assisted tools proliferate and QA and engineering are both mandated to perform more after laying off 30% of our devs. And every product manager’s demo is talking about AI.

      Meanwhile security said that no more Ubuntu and Fedora imaged laptops are allowed on our VPN. Windows 11 and the occasional Mac only.

      Highly confidential business meetings are held with gong or other AI assist tools recording and summarizing everything. Code is being written with agentic AI. Internal-only docs are smoothed over with gpt. And all this with the notion that we should trust them that they don’t extract data from these enterprise subscription products.

      My only hope is that there’s still some semblance of sanity left in this company because they have recently fired someone that proclaimed themselves being MAGA.

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      • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        we should trust them that they don’t extract data from these enterprise subscription products.

        LMAO of course they use that data for their AI training, now and forever, and they won’t even ask anymore.

        I guess there is at least one person who should be fired urgently: the one who said that they don’t do that.

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    • BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I STILL don’t fucking know how to get row/column headings to work in Calc

      I’m assuming you are referring to column filters and/or keeping the first row at the top of the screen:

      • Filter: Select Header Row > Data > Auto Filter
      • Row Freeze: View > Freeze Cells > Freeze First Row

      Image

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      • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Even better, click on the first cell (A1) if your headers are at the top, and then click on the filter button. Done.

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    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I STILL don’t fucking know how to get row/column headings to work in Calc…

      Have you tried with asking Copi…OUCH!!! /s

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      • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Funny enough, I actually have tried with chatgpt. The problem is the same one with all these LLM based tools: Training data.

        And if you actually google this yourself, the vast majority of what you find are people not understanding what is being asked or referencing a REALLY REALLY old UI (possibly dating to the open or even star days). And the LLMs are effectively scraping that so you get the equivalent of “This was already answered HERE. Closing duplicate question” response.

        (I usually DO end up figuring it out after a bit of deep diving when I really care but I go through so much FUD in the process that I inevitably forget a month or two later).

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  • MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This message is brought to you by Microsoft, for Linux Mint, and Linux Mint Debian Edition.

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    • Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I found Linux Mint Cinnamon edition to be an incredibly easy transition. Just make sure you disable secure boot and use the drive format that the installer recommends.

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s the one i want to try, but i’ve got too much going on right now to rip that bandaid

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And Bazzite, and Fedora, and OpenSUSE.

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  • HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    HumanOnEarth announces they will install Linux on all computers going forward

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    • Matriks404@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The best thing to do is to convert you closest family and friends. If you’re a “computer guy” the chances are you need to support their shitty computers anyway, so you might as well support an OS which is easier to maintain.

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    • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’ll try to make Linux illegal soon.

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      • m33@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not illegal, rather not free. There is an ongoing effort to switch from GPL licencing to more restrictive licensing, allowing corpos to close the source of their distribution. Redhat-IBM is at work. All this camouflaged behind good intentions like rewriting GNU user land and libs in Rust because memory safety.

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      • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Major fear is corruption of the culture. There are corpos and cunts that would benefit from Steam stopping linux suppory which is a major adoption driver. Nvidia is supposedly a more difficult gpu/cpu to use with linux and the current duopoly leans heavily in their favour.

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      • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Impossible. The cloud will fall. And locking the bootloader of computers won’t work.

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