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Yes, this is their intention. You know that right? They want to unalive them without going to jail. So the plan is to get them to do it to themselves.
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Submitted 2 weeks ago by tradingcronjobsforsmack@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Murder. Kill. Execute. Compel or coerce to take one’s own life. Use the actual words and terms for it, and not the weird censorship circumvention language.
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yes.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s absurd. Nobody outside of academia is going to take that seriously.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Everyone in academics knows that violence has more forms than physical. You should probably catch up to the high school understanding of it.
Tedesche@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Everyone in and out of academics knows labeling speech “violent” is an attempt to get it censored. Stop being naïve.
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well it’s a good thing all those academics get listened to by the general public when they say that shit. Highly effective, clearly everyone is enthralled.
flemtone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You seem to put the onus of trans killing themselves on everyone around them and not the inner turmoil of their own minds.
Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Jeez what do you think causes that inner turmoil
AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
This is a cis-white dude that has never felt any real discrimination in his life
alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
If you had to experience excruciating levels of gender dysphoria, hate and animosity – often coming from your own family –, maybe you would think differently…
It’s not just verbal either, there is a real chance of non-passing trans people getting followed or even beaten up, especially in he evenings/nights. And yes, in the “civilised” west.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I got my dream job offer rescinded two weeks ago BECAUSE I AM TRANS.
I have experienced sexual violence BECAUSE I AM TRANS.
I am terrified of being pulled over by a cop and institutionalized or incarcerated because the government says that my license is wrong now.
The problem is not my mental state. The problem is the discrimination.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Having your right to existence denied/criticised/ridiculed might have something to do with it too
OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
Lower self-reported transphobia was associated with a 66 % reduction in ideation, and an additional 76 % reduction in attempts among those with ideation
…biomedcentral.com/…/s12889-015-1867-2.pdf
An increase by one context in which a chosen name could be used predicted a 5.37-unit decrease in depressive symptoms, a 29% decrease in suicidal ideation, and a 56% decrease in suicidal behavior.
www.jahonline.org/article/…/fulltext#intraref0010…
Socially transitioned transgender children who are supported in their gender identity have developmentally normative levels of depression and only minimal elevations in anxiety, suggesting that psychopathology is not inevitable within this group.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26921285/
So yes. Increased depression and suicide among trans people is, according to the research, entirely correlated with social factors like how much they are accepted by friends/family and chose name use.
crashfrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Response study, n=389
Response study, n=128
Response study, n=72
“According to the research” lol
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Man, you would not handle being a minority.
You know how every day the society you live in DOESN’T tell you it hates you and that it wants you to die?
I get it we usually don’t notice things that don’t happen to us, but cmon -_-
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
The person who is ridiculed because they are different, disowned from their families because they can’t meet the demands of pretending to be someone they are not, denied the social accommodation that makes their lives comfortable, refused housing because of how they look, denied the health care that helps them feel centered because it creeps out the people who do not have their condition… How can their mind be still?
Trans health is dependent on the people around us the same way your health is dependent on the people around you. Trans joy is as possible as trans suffering. The difference is in other people allowing it to happen.
muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com 2 weeks ago
Since this is lemmy nobody can disagree with this opinion or post stats that discredit it without a ban.
lena@gregtech.eu 2 weeks ago
Because it’s true. The anti-trans rethoric is incredibly harmful. If you don’t like trans people just because they’re trans, there’s the door
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
People that support the likes of Charlie Kirk ask for evidence or examples, pure denial.
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
They always ask for rules for you but not for them.
Fascists and their enablers often ask in bad faith. They hyperfocus on vulnerable minorities, to distract from their own group being ontologically evil.
zecg@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
[deleted]FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure its just hate and the vast majority of them don’t even know what medical science can do for a trans person. The vast majority of people who transition do not regret it which leads me to believe the treatment is more than some depressing impossible goal.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Gender reassignment surgery is still classified as “cosmetic surgery” in the US
And it has the lowest rate of regret of any cosmetic surgeries.
So it’s more likely a patient would regret a face lift or lip filler over chopping their dick or tits off.
It really puts it into perspective how popular and reliable these procedures are for affirming people’s gender
zurchpet@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
How is wanting to exist and living their life impossible to achieve?
Unless you mean it is impossible because of those narrow minded folks who still think that they want to change to something they aren’t already.
All they want is their right to exist without being told of being not valid.
BanMe@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And there’s a third way of looking at it, where people who shouldn’t have an opinion about it at all are suddenly full of right-wing talking points that don’t align with science and reality.
P00Pchute@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
vatlark@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I did that. The top comment was a troll and the thread was feeding the troll and reporting each other. Here is the top comment.
Removed Comment: Since this is lemmy nobody can disagree with this opinion or post stats that discredit it without a ban. by reason: This is trolling. You are welcome to make claims and cite sources. This thread did neither of those. It was just bickering. Here is an example of claims with sources lemmy.world/comment/19389340
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lemmy mods have always been just as quick to ban and remove as reddit mods, if not faster. Although I feel like it varies more widely because of all the different instances.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I was part of that, an edgy user tried to say that you can’t ban speech because no speech is harmful
I told him “degenerates like you belong in camps” to show how speech is indeed harmful
They got buttmad and clutched pearls instead of taking a step back and self reflecting, this is all I have left from the exchange:
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think, in the literal sense you are correct, it is a legal form of violence. But what are you proposing? Saying you hate trans people, you don’t respect them (I’ve never heard conservatives actually call them “subhuman” but it probably does happen) etc. is reprehensible but it’s not illegal, and preventing people from saying mean things to one another is a pretty extreme form of censorship. If I make fun of someone and they later commit suicide should I be charged with a crime?
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unfortunately, America does not have any hate speech laws. You can legally do openly nazi marches in the street
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yea but what part of American government would you trust to restrict the speech you don’t like (and only that speech)? In the UK you’ve got the government arresting people for protesting in support of those guys that sprayed paint into the jet engines.
Luouth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A hate crime that apparently carries 0 consequences across the globe. We live in a fucked up world