I don’t really agree with much about anything this guys says but at least he’s willing to commit to what he believes and leads by example.
Too soon?
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assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 59 minutes ago
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 36 minutes ago
Charlie Kirk died defending the 2nd Amendment 😂
hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 hours ago
Well fuck. Now I have to actually have empathy for his death or he will get what he wants. 😭
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
have empathy for his children, who didn’t ask to be born into this
and uh I guess that’s about it
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
No because you kjow he meant ‘except for me. Have empathy for me.’
Agent641@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
You know what else causes a lot of damage? Getting shot in your facist neck.
Deadsoldier69@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Now finish the quote
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
I think all of his quotes are finished, now.
Ghis@lemmy.world 46 minutes ago
Christmas came early this year T_T
I needed some catharsis.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Seriously, he’s words and actions have probably resulted in the deaths of others, why shouldn’t he have gotten this outcome?
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
The Republicans’ rubber stamp, and lack of a competent opposition, is proving to be an absolute nightmare for the party. They’re getting away with everything they ever wanted, and people are seeing the immediate consequences play out. When your policies start killing people, people literally fight back. You’ve given people nothing to lose, and this population is armed to the teeth. What did they think was going to happen?
You can’t declare war on a population, and then expect to walk freely in the open air among that population.
The Republicans getting everything they ever wanted will be what caused the party’s destruction. The Democrats helping them do it will destroy them, too.
halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works 3 hours ago
Well said. Claiming he simply died for his political beliefs is highly reductive and disingenuous.
deaf_fish@midwest.social 7 hours ago
There was a way around this that would have resulted in no deaths. Trump should been prosecuted for the January 6th insurrection. Then we should have put a bunch of fascists in jail for a long time. Then we should have de-platformed grifters.
But none of that happens so. We get what we get.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
We’re never better off with the Dem fascists in charge either. They’re two sides of the same coin.
If we want the law to mean anything, and we want it used to hold people accountable, over 90% of sitting congresspeople and senators can now be prosecuted for aiding genocide, which they did in violation of domestic & international laws. That would certainly set a tone and precedent for the future.
bunchberry@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
It comes across to me as they simply lack empathy for other “kinds” of people. If you actually felt the same pain and empathy when watching the video of Kirk get merked, you should feel that a thousand times over when seeing a thousand videos of the IOF massacring children, many sniped in the same way Kirk got merked, and then you should look upon Kirk in disgust for supporting that and dehumanizing the Palestinian people. But the fact is these people don’t. They don’t see other “kinds” of people different from them as in fact “people.” Let’s be real, they don’t feel the same kind of empathy for Palestinian fathers dying as they do a white fascist dying. They constantly mock the deaths of minority groups like trans people. They suddenly have empathy and demand pacifism and valuing the sanctity of all life when a white fascist dies, but are silent in every other cas.e
khaleer@sopuli.xyz 2 hours ago
It’s bad to kill for political beliefs only if a fascist dies. Otherwise nobody will even know about anything.
BanMe@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
If you’re part of a movement that’s taking vaccines away from babies, well, you’re evil and people are going to respond to that.
m0darn@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
His family shouldn’t expect empathy, and he wouldn’t want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 37 minutes ago
Assuming his kids are young enough, I’d feel bad for them. They probably don’t understand well enough.
His wife though I don’t care for at all, and will likely use his death for profit and to make her kids extremists. One can only hope they question why their father was hated enough to be killed while most people everyday aren’t.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
Charlie Kirk wouldn’t have wanted you to feel any empathy for him or his family.
“I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics”
kreskin@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I expect the NRA will stage a gunshow at a nearby site someplace in the next few days, right? Its what they do for school shootings and this was at a school. So Kirk’s fam can stock up on cheap ammo.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
See the issue with this mentality is that THIS is the mentality of authoritarians. You try to find ways to justify the murder of the people you politically disagree with while not applying the same standard to the people you politically agree with.
What you’re doing is helping set a precedent that political violence is justified if you frame it in a certain way. If that’s the case then other extremist whackos, including conservative ones, are going to start doing the same thing. What’s there from stopping some conservative nutjob from shooting someone like Hasan Piker or AOC or Mamdani or anyone on the left really as a retaliation? After all, if what you’re saying here is now passing as a valid justification, then they’ll just use your very own justification to justify their own actions.
The things that authoritarians don’t understand is that when principles aren’t applied universally, the standard becomes subjective, and sooner or later, their abuse of power will come back to bite them in the ass by the very standard they helped establish. I am fully aware that Lemmy is usually off the deep end on politics, but this is too unhinged even for this platform.
TomArrr@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It’s a conundrum. But remember, this guy said It’s fine for some to die from guns. So I sure as hell ain’t wasting a caring thought on him.
python@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
dellish@lemmy.world 17 minutes ago
A lifestyle change would have arguably saved him, if he decided to stop living like a human shitstack that is.
phoenixarise@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
binomialchicken@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 hours ago
I dislike this for so many reasons, but I laughed out loud which means I am legally obligated to upvote
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
I will fully note I’m stealing this but, he is an antivaccer who finally got shot.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
You can see by the picture he finally reached his turning point.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Fuuuuuuuuck
x4740N@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
It’s my birthday today so hearing about it is one of the best birthday gifts
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 47 minutes ago
Happy birthday!
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 hour ago
Happy Birthday!
Agent641@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Wikipedia editors already 'was’ed all his 'is’s 😂
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Pretty sure Wikipedia has a single button that changes all present tense to past sense. Someone who’s more familiar with it correct me if I’m wrong though.
TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
I have no idea but I like to imagine hundreds of editors rushing out every time there’s a prominent death to be the first to change it.
Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Wouldn’t be surprised
saimen@feddit.org 1 hour ago
But not like that! Only the right rights! /s
merc@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Great foreshadowing too.
Earlier this year, Utah passed House Bill 128 allowing people to conceal carry firearms on university campuses. One of the campuses where conceal carry was now permitted is, of course, Utah Valley University, where Charlie Kirk was visiting today. He was sitting under a tent with the slogan “Prove Me Wrong”.
Immediately before the shooting, he was taking questions from the audience:
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.
Then a single shot rang out.
pbs.org/…/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-shot…
It’s unfortunate that he’s ineligible for the Darwin Award because he leaves behind 2 very young children and a culture warrior wife, because otherwise he’d be a great nominee for the 2025 Darwin Awards. Normally to get a Darwin Award someone has to directly kill themselves. But, I think in this case we could have make an exception for someone who was a cheerleader for gun rights and was sitting directly under a banner saying “Prove Me Wrong” when he was killed with a gun.
vga@sopuli.xyz 23 minutes ago
This was apparently done by a sniper, so not really a conceal carry thing.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 hours ago
If this is a movie plot, critic would say this is just too cliche.
ngdev@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
honestly deserves a whole new award category a la Herman Cain Award
x4740N@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
Do we have a Hermann Cain awards community here
merc@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Sounds good to me.
smoker@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Why do god-given rights need to be protected?
dumbass@leminal.space 4 hours ago
Too soon?
Nah he’s cold now, it’s all good.
bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I guess that is living up his beliefs; have to respect a man that does that.
merc@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
He was literally lying about mass shootings when he was shot:
Immediately before the shooting, Kirk was taking questions for an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence.
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked
Then a single shot rang out.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Sounds like he was trying to push for taking away gun rights for trans people.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
You dont, but we can pretend we’re laughing with rather than at him.
ideonek@piefed.social 10 hours ago
Things Trump do to stop people from talking about Epstein...
Mac@mander.xyz 8 hours ago
Wow, i heard Trump orchestrated this to distract from the Epstien files.
Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
Heard the same thing. Many people are saying it, very smart people! So maybe it’s true? I’m just asking questions!
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
This is some tin foil hat shit solely because Trump is too stupid to do any elaborate planning like this
ideonek@piefed.social 3 hours ago
Wow, dude. He's your elected representative.
58008@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence… it’s a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they’ll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn’t go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I’m sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they’re all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory…
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend 👀
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 hours ago
I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.
It’s what he wanted. Quick, too.
It is fucked for those kids though. Not their fault.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
Speaking as someone with a shitty sociopath ‘parent’:
They’ve seen enough its not too much escalation. And now they never have to deal with his bullshit again. The emotions will be complicated, but they won’t all be bad.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 24 minutes ago
I get what you mean, but there’s a chance he was nice to his kids specifically.
I don’t think it’s likely, but there’s a chance they’ve been fully brainwashed to care. I can’t see someone like Kirk being like that though.
shittydwarf@piefed.social 12 hours ago
Holy shit, I'm in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with no internet for days, and THIS is the news that comes through when I reconnect?! Perhaps I treated this timeline too harshly
PugJesus@piefed.social 12 hours ago
lol. lmao, even.
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
This is a TRAGEDY! WHY couldn’t they MURDER A BUNCH OF KINDERGARTNERS Instead? This SUCKS! It’s TIME for Trump to send the Military into the Shithole Blue state of Utah!
bonus_crab@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
i mean hes right. shoulda just been on the right side of history
Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Not too soon. Just in the neck of time.
Ilandar@lemmy.today 7 hours ago
Why didn’t he just edit out his death, like he did with all the debates he lost? Is he stupid?
tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
Aaaand this is how I found out. Good riddance!
bobbyhillnevergrowsup@midwest.social 9 hours ago
He died doing what he loved.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 10 hours ago
“No Way to Stop This Happening” Says Only Country Where This Regularly Happens.
America’s Finest News Source
NewPerspective@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Every gun owner should watch the front row video of what guns do to a human body.
kreskin@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Have you even sent your thoughts and prayers yet?
WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 6 hours ago
Shhh, do you hear that? That’s the bullet headed to my neck.
Formfiller@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
fodor@lemmy.zip 13 minutes ago
It’s always interesting when they use expressions like, god-given rights. That’s not how it works. A right, in the US, is a privilege that has stronger legal protections. That’s all. It’s definitely not given by anyone other than the US government.