The admin of the Mastodon instance cyberspace.social just received an AI powered notice to delete the parody account @microsoft@lea.pet
Oh my fucking god! Please, M$, do continue!!
Microsoft doesn't understand the Fediverse
Submitted 1 day ago by Vittelius@feddit.org to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115174005290146637
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ICastFist@programming.dev 10 hours ago
pimento64@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Microsoft is at this point made up entirely of technically inept people running fraudulent mechanical Turks.
dangling_cat@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
After forced to switch to Microsoft teams, I became their PM and developers are alien origin.
Like, some of the logic doesn’t make any human sense. Like, LLM slop would’ve done better.
VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 12 hours ago
Imperor@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Microsoft is such a horrid company.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
thanks microsoft! i just followed the account!
madjo@feddit.nl 20 hours ago
Streisand effect in full swing too. I’m now following @Microsoft@lea.pet :)
GlenRambo@jlai.lu 17 hours ago
I don’t get fediverse either. How do I follow that from a Lemmy app. The link dosnt work.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Lemmy doesn’t support following people, you need a mastodon or Sharkey account for that. Check sharkey.world and mas.to
enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
this is why niche stuff on fedi is so funny sometimes. especially when a corporate entity tried to approach it, in the most corporate way lol.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They don’t really understand their user base either
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Lea.pet also got a c&d for @apple@lea.pet
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The instance rules state;
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No impersonation of a person or a brand. Even parodies.
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Each username on here should be a person, not a brand or corporation - and that person must be you, no impersonation.
Now I’m not coming to the defense of a corporation because fuck corps but wouldn’t this account violate those rules? Microsoft is a (shitty) brand and this is a parody of that.
I might be wrong but thats how I would interpret those two rules.
And again fuck microsoft, even if it does violate the instance rules it should be left alone just to piss of a shitty corp.
TherapyGary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I believe the Microsoft account is hosted on Lea.pet, which doesn’t have those rules
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
could be a rule break of number 9
are we sure on the English translation?
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
don’t harass people if there isn’t a valid reason for doing that
what a nothing rule lol, every harasser believes they are justified
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Fair point, I didn’t know those rules weren’t on lea.pet. There are to many instances to keep track of them all.
StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Quick, everyone make a million parody accounts to troll microsoft harder.
IllNess@infosec.pub 1 day ago
6 . Each username on here should be a person, not a brand or corporation - and that person must be you, no impersonation.
“I’m not a businessman, I’m a business, man!”
-Jay-Z regretting his words
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
It’s not hosted on that instance. It’s hosted at another instance. You’re making the same mistake that the Microsoft bot AI did.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Is it a mistake? Wouldn’t federated content still count the same way legally, since an instance is also a website?
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, I literally made an edit admitting it so thanks for wasting your time pointing it out again.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re making the same mistake Microsoft made
NotForYourStereo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Stupid rules deserve breaking.
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unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 1 day ago
let them sue, parody is fair use. get that bag king
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
AI putting copyright troll lawyers out of jobs? Best use I’ve heard of yet.
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Does Microsoft understand anything? At all? They suck at making software, the suck at making operating systems, they suck at making genAI, they suck at making game consoles, they’re starting to suck at owning github, what don’t they suck at? What part of their business is done better than anyone else? What end user experience is better on an MS product than anywhere else? They have a shittier alternative to literally everything and nothing truly good.
rmuk@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
I don’t know if you’re asking seriously, but if you are the answer is: Enterprise manageability and accountability. There’s a reason why every hospital, Fortune 500 corporate campus, military base, supermarket, distribution centre, etc, etc all run Windows workstations. Why would a ruthlessley profit-driven corporation buy expensive Windows licenses when Ubuntu is free? Because when you’re dealing with ten thousand workstation in 150 countries, each with own requirements for data protection, working time, employee rights, etc that not only need enforcing, but need to be audited, you can do all that with a single Windows server and a half-motivated sysadmin. And for everyone smaller than that, you still get access to those same tools for your school, office, factory, whatever on your fleet of twenty mismatched laptops from eight different vendors.
Nothing else comes close, and until it does nothing will change. They would all drop Windows in an instant if there was a sensible alternative.
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
That’s the thing though, they would drop it in an instant if there was an alternative. The fact that there’s no competition on the OS front is due to conscious efforts on their part to monopolize desktop operating systems because they wouldn’t be able to compete if they had competition.
BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
They rock at being the default. As much as I love LibreOffice MS office is probably the best office suite I’ve used too.
DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 10 hours ago
For how good and useful Excel is, it’s overbalanced by how utterly fucking dog shit Word is.
Word is when you have a crap and can’t seem to wipe yourself fully clean. Word is making a morning coffee and finding the milk has gone bad. If it weren’t for the US deciding they’d rather invade the Netherlands than let a single Yank stand trial in the Hague, the entire executive suite of Microsoft would be up on war crimes charges because of Word.
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
VSCode
abir_v@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
I don’t intend to have the tone of some of these other guys; if you like it that’s fine, really.
But man, every time I’ve used VSCode, I cannot help but hate it. It’s a mess of a user experience, with anything off the beaten path being community supported via plugins that have different opinions on how they should work.
I’m a nvim user these days, I’m all about extensible tools, but I can redefine how they work if it’s not a default I like, so it’s always cohesive to me.
Between the full-fat IDEs, I prefer JetBrains by far, but these days I pretty much just use the terminal - it’s just faster and it’s easy to get it to meet me where I’m at.
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
You’re talking to a vim user. If you even suggest that a MS product is better I’ll go crazy and crush up my own teeth into dust and then put it in my morning breakfast milk to make Teeth Milk (Tilk)
You’ve been warned.
(It’s 6 in the morning and I still haven’t slept I’m really sorry about this but this reply seems really funny to me so I’m posting against my better judgement)
Valmond@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Vscode being more accessible than Visual doesn’t actually mean anything in the grand scheme of code creation. Both sucks btw.
BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Their computer mice are pretty good quality, but I don’t know if they are the best.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They suck at making everything except money.
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
That’s called a scam artist, and honestly that’s not far off at all. They did some sneaky shit to maintain a monopoly.
m33@lemmy.zip 17 hours ago
Let’s save this post for the next follow friday…
INeedMana@piefed.zip 1 day ago
:D
Not that I have any sympathy for them but technically speaking, can we say "Microsoft does X" when it was just a "brand protection LLM"?
For sure they chose it to be an outward connection but are we really now stating that an LLM can represent a company? I feel like that's both "you are stupid for using LLMs that way" and empowering LLMs at the same timeradiohead37@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They are the ones who configured the tool to be used this way. Yes, Microsoft did that.
troed@fedia.io 1 day ago
You're always responsible for the actions of those that you choose to represent you. Regardless of how stupid they may be.
frongt@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The phrasing is really weird too. Like I would understand if they were asserting their trademark, but saying it’s an account they’ve lost access to?
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
They don’t even say they lost access. Lol they just say delete it. Fuck these assholes.
Five@slrpnk.net 11 hours ago
What ghouls
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
I feel like this is going to become a problem with federation in the future. A Mastodon instance is hosting content outside of its control that may or may not comply with its internal policies or local law. Is that instance protected legally? Likely not.
It would likely be treated the same way as auto forwarding an email would be treated.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
AT proto’s PDS architecture does solve that 👀
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
Has BlueSky implemented federation yet?
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 day ago
I don’t know. You may be generally already protected to some degrees by existing laws for users interacting with your site. This time it’s just users interacting with your site via another server. If you defederate from bad instances and have a good DMCA system, you might be okay.
Although, this type of thing could be one of those things that’ll take a court case or updated legislation to solve.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
IANAL, but most law that I’ve heard of regarding third party content requires the site hosting the content to conform to takedown notices issued. So, having a good DCMA system requires you to be able to take down content from instances that may not be bad, but governed differently.
As for the law “catching up with” federation sites, I don’t see that happening unless Mastodon and Lemmy start creating massive lobbying arms.
Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Look ma, my instance is being threatened!
Ok but fr, MS please don’t shut down cyberplace.social I just switched to there like a few months ago.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
This is honestly a dumb post. It doesn’t say anything about “Microsoft” understanding or not understanding anything.
It just shows them using an automated system to try and take down an account that they think is infringing on their trademark rights. There are legal protections for parody accounts, but they are not absolute and it’s possible that Microsoft could get a court order compelling the owner to cease control of the account.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So I guess I’ll explain the post for you, since it seems you do not understand the fediverse, either.
cyberplace.social federates with lea.pet but is not responsible for and cannot control the Microsoft parody account on lea.pet. Microsoft sent the notice to the wrong server. That’s why Microsoft does not understand the fediverse or how federation works, and why the post is funny instead of dumb. Now you can laugh too! You’re welcome!
General_Effort@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Holy shit. I can’t believe that 65 people upvoted this. Do you really believe that’s how the world works? Are you actually adults?
masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
So it’s funny because the fediverse is so niche that no one designing automated copyright systems care about its odd and unique addressing system?
Void@lemmings.world 1 day ago
Microsoft doesn’t understand parody
TheBat@lemmy.world 1 day ago
enf.microsoft
Do they know what enf means on the internet?
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
…yet.
asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 1 day ago
When did they understand anything? Fuck MS
Zachariah@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Follow++
3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com 1 hour ago
To be brutal Microsoft appear to understand little these days…