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SpaceX says states should dump fiber plans, give all grant money to Starlink
Submitted 3 months ago by tonytins@pawb.social to technology@lemmy.world
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alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 months ago
weew@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
On one hand, Musk.
On the other hand… Telecos.
You can either give billions more to the world’s richest asshole, or you can give billions to companies that already received that money last time and did absolutely fuckall with it.
Lose-lose
billwashere@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I mean there is a third option: municipal fiber
But then the gub’ment is your ISP but at least it’s not making billionaires money.
I’d suggest the best case scenario to me would be a fourth option like a community run co-op of fiber to the premises and have it be grant funded. But who am I kidding, that’s almost to socialist for rural America like where I live.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Fourth option: Municipal fiber, but open access to those lines for private ISPs of all types.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Third option: municipal fibre
Geodad@lemmy.world 3 months ago
We have that here. 🥰
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Thats illegal most placss.
So twice as cool as well as functionally superior.
billwashere@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I should really read before I post… :)
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Not really. Most of the rural plans in the US are run by utilities companies that are local.
PlasmaTrout@lemmy.wtf 3 months ago
I’ve been WFH for at least 10 years and live in rural area. Starlink was like 150-200$ a month for an unpredictable 5-150mbps and did meh. When I finally got fiber it was sub 100$ a month for 2gbps stable. Not a hard decision :)
Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Business owned by greedy manbaby says to give money to business also owned by greedy manbaby. Hmmm…
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
Don’t forget Nazi
_lilith@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That will work out as well as the death tunnel (formerly hyperlink)
putainsdetoiles@lemmy.world 3 months ago
SpaceX can fuck right off with that plan.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Musk = POS Nazi.
DigDoug@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I say that Emma Stone should divorce her husband and marry me instead.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m so glad other countries are coming up with their own satellites just for the expressed interest to boycott musk.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
No, please no
We don’t need thousands of satellites to provide internet, the entire idea and design of Starlink is utterly stupid.
I can look up at the sky not and see stars and… Those fucking star link satellites.
We’re already close enough to a Kessler effect scenario without adding thousands of satellites, and with governments world wide now ready to just shoot satellites (seriously, can everyone please stop voting for dumb fucks while we’re at it?) can we please PLEASE stop this?
Just use fiber internet or where not possible, use geostationary satellites. We don’t need semi low latency everywhere
Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 months ago
There are areas of the planet where there is no signal or fibre. Clearly you and I are not in one of these dead spots but they do exist.
Just something to think about before you run around talking down with privilege of where you’re speaking about it.
queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Kessler syndrome here we come!
Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ok then You Go yell at musk about it.
sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Telsat Lightspeed, from the Canadian company that invented commercial domestic satellite communications in 1971.
Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
I would burn the money before giving it to the nazi
drmoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Low orbit satellites will never replace fiber because physics of latency, bandwidth and error correction.
As far as things go today well never need less fiber. Even if we cover the sky with satellites eventually we’d need to upgrade to fiber because its literally impossible to beat. Except for scifi tech like quantum entanglement networks which might not even be possible or practical anyway.
Justas@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Fiber is like rail transport for the internet: expensive, high throughput infrastructure along a defined path. But when it’s already there, it’s very hard to beat.
Oh right, Musk stopped the discussion of proposed rail expansion with his Boring tunnels and Hyperloop, now he is doing the same thing to the internet.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
The trouble with starlink is that the actual amazingly practical use-cases for it are not a sufficiently profitable market for it given the insane investment. So they have to convince people it’s a better idea as a rural ISP than demanding fiber.
bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I sure am sick of super fast, stable internet connections. Let’s all get something that fucks up when it’s cloudy.
regedit@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
What’s dumb about this statement is all Elon would have to do is market to all the places where broadband companies refuse to go and be affordable. tRump already killed the rural broadband initiatives. There’s literally no competition and word-of-mouth could probably pull in more who are unhappy with their broadband provider.
However, capitalism and greed are cancers that know no limit…
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 months ago
Like cancer, greed doesn’t know that it is killing its host.
Sagan_Wept@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
That’s a dumb ass idea
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 months ago
I wish there was a way for the average person to shoot down starlink satellites.
sefra1@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Don’t worry, the way things are going the star link satellites are going to shoot themselves. Unfortunately together with everything else in the low orbit.
pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Here’s a better idea: nationalize SpaceX and tell Musk to go fuck himself first. Not going to happen? Then no grant money.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Goat says garden needs more carrots.
DemBoSain@midwest.social 3 months ago
We should also dump passenger trains for…electric car tunnels?
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You cannot actually serve hundreds of millions in the US even if you invested the 75B it would cost to give every household a satellite it just can’t support the bandwidth.
WaistGunnerPug@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Fuck. That.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 months ago
Yeah, please… give me shitty satellite internet instead of a fast fiber line…
PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yes. Lets tie our expansion of desperately needed internet access in rural America to massively carbon emitting rocket launches. Thats definitely not gonna back fire on us.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Musk is still hitting the special K.
sepi@piefed.social 3 months ago
SpaceX can suck my ass
Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 months ago
Gee, I wonder why they would do that.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
katy says spacex should go fuck themselves and go bankrupt
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
“Humans should give me chicken” says Cat.
Redex68@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lol, lmao even
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
How about no