I received 100 dollars for Google nerfing my battery capacity on my pixel 6a. If you have an pixel 6a you can also get this.
Samsung phones can survive twice as many charges as Pixel and iPhone, according to EU data
Submitted 8 months ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.androidauthority.com/smartphone-battery-cycles-3573442/
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Alchalide@lemmy.world 8 months ago
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
finally some good news for us Samsung victims/owners.
romantired@shibanu.app 8 months ago
Jobs figured everything out a long time ago. Why are you desecrating his memory?
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
What are you talking about? The article doesn’t mention him.
xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Figured what out?
vaionko@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Didn’t you read? He figured out everything
ronflex@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I can anecdotally attest to this. I’ve been using the same Samsung phone since basically 2020 with original battery and the runtime is still damn good for what I need.
dekomote@lemmy.world 8 months ago
S21 fe and still get a full day of use.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
cool. since whatever i had after the pixel 1, I’ve had to replace my phone every 1 or 2 years
remon@ani.social 8 months ago
Same, got mine in early 2020 and the battery is still at 87% capacity.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
I wonder why people downvote this… some kind of brand loyalty/emnity, or buyer’s remorse?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That data is independently researched or Samsung gave that to the EU and it’s published as-is?
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 8 months ago
The new law does not mandate third-party review. It’s the innkeeper claiming that the wine is good.
Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Can confirm my pixel 6a battery went to dogshit this week. Almost feels like it’s more the update than anything with the battery… but I guess I’ll be learning to switch battery and finally going back to lineageos
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Their obsession with the tensor AI chip is very strange
IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
My 6a is over 3 years old and still strong. I had no Samsung battery that lasted under a year and a half.
TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah they sent a communication to pixel 6a owners saying that they will force an update that will reduce battery usage. In case you did not know, Google is providing a 100$ check, or 150$ discount on their store for 6a owners.
onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Whoa that happened to the 6a as well? That whole thing with the 4a was a disaster.
Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Yup, got my 100$ yesterday -it is anti-lawsuit stuff but will cover the cost of fixing a new battery
ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve had my Pixel 5 since around the time the 6 came out. The battery life isn’t great, but I can get by just fine. Maybe Samsung phone batteries are better, but before this I had a Samsung Galaxy. The battery on that was no better. I know this is anecdotal, but I don’t plan to switch when my 5 croaks.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 months ago
I had the 5a I I only found out it was super defective after the screen died from a small drop, apparently it’s one of its common defects, aside from the motherboard failure. I replaced with a non iOS, Google or Samsung phone
sartalon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sorry, no way I am going back to Samsung. I had the A71 and it was a TERRIBLE smart phone. I switched to the Pixel 6 and it was night and day.
I just need to get off my ass and install Graphene.
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
You’re comparing apples and oranges. The A71 isn’t supposed to be comparable with a pixel 9.
You’re comparing the three-door Nissan to a Lamborghini
sartalon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You misunderstand. I went to from the A71 to the 6. I am only recently on the 9?
adavis@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I used the A71 early 2020 till about a month or two ago, and it was a fantastic phone. Only reason I moved was it’s out of support, so no more security updates.
The battery was still rated at >90%. And I’d believe it, I never had to worry about it lasting a whole day. My only complaint about the phone was even during its support period the security patches were infrequent.
I contemplated Samsung again but chose a Pixel 9a due to the monthly security updates for 7 years. And in doing so I’ve given up dual sim, headphone jack and sd card slot (but few phones have all those features now).
I’m curious what made your experience with the A71 so terrible?
sartalon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It was constantly giving out mistaken SOS messages. It would lock up and I’d have to constantly reset.
The final straw was when I was travelling to a work site I had never been to before. It locked up with a static screen and refused to reset. I had to stop at a gas station, at 4am, actually talk to another person and buy a map.
It was slow, buggy, constantly trying to get me to use their Samsung store, .etc…
When I moved to Pixel, it gave me the iPhone experience where shit just worked. And it integrated more things for me, which was convenient at the time. (But now I know it is scraping the fuck out of everything I do/see/hear.)
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 8 months ago
From a budget phone to a flagship?
Yeah, i can see how the difference would be night and day…
Regardless pixel is a great series of phone if the OS works for you then stick with google phones.
Personally i like samsung. Even if they have gotten pretty shady. Since i owned the s2 years back i have always found myself liking samsung.
Tried nexus 6, tried the OG pixel which i liked but ruined when i dropped it in a barrel filled with potatos and water. (No k wont elaborate, its more fun to leave you guessing)
Tried huawei and enjoyed my p20 pro and p30 pro but once the fold 3 came out i was back with samsung. Got a fold 6 now and am very happy.
If i recall, since the advent of smart phones, i went: Sony xperia x10 Galaxy S2 Galaxy S4 mini Google Nexus 6 Google Pixel Huawei P20 pro Huawei P30 pro Galaxy Fold 3 Galaxy Fold 6
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 8 months ago
Had endlesss issues with 2x Nexus phones, eschewed google, gave them another chance with a Pixel 6Pro, sold it after a month it was so shitty and grabbed a Samsung S22u that i still use. I use the pen so often its shitty not having one and goodlock does along looottts of customisation. I also mostly prefer their apps to googles, alas googles cant be deleted :(
sartalon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I am glad you have had a better experience than me. I am pretty happy with Pixel now but I am going to try the Graphene route this weekend.
I appreciate your response.
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Funny enough, I had the complete opposite experience. I didn’t necessarily use Samsung then either, but I would get the phone that was normally rated the best or highly reviewed. I think i came from an LG to the first pixel phone. Pixel was the first phone to ever give me issues. Felt it vibrate one day in my pocket and I looked at it a few min later and it was in permanent boot loop. Tried a lot of things, but my one regret was forgetting to turn on developer options with the usb so essentially the phone was bricked. I couldn’t access it or do anything, everytbing was lost and support was no help and told me they couldn’t replace it. Last time I used them. I also wasn’t a fan of how hard they tried copying an iPhone at the time. Since them I’ve mostly used a Samsung either the Note and now the higher end galaxies and love them. Only thing I dislike is their own line of apps for everything that I disable immediately.
Natanael@infosec.pub 8 months ago
The Pixel line is comparable to the Samsung S line, you got a budget phone before
ben_dover@lemmy.world 8 months ago
it’s well worth it and quite easy with the WebUSB installer
sartalon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I just upgraded to the 9 and assume it’s scraping every bit of data it can from me. I will do it this weekend.
spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I find that I wear out the charging port before the battery. I don’t even plug it in that much either.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I wanna know what the hell people are doing to destroy the ports on their devices. Like are you plugging your phone in then using it as a lasso? Are you smashing the plug down against something and bending the connector? In 20 years of using various smart phones I’ve never destroyed the port on my device.
Lint? Yes, but you can clear that out easily. But like actually destroying ports when they’re clean?
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Try cleaning out the USB-C port. Lint gets compacted in there and it can prevent the plug from seating correctly. Most charging problems I’ve had were resolved by scraping the lint out of the port, with a plastic floss pick thing or an unbent staple. Careful not to damage the contacts though.
MBech@feddit.dk 8 months ago
I’ve started using a wireless charger. It’s been so much better because I regularly had to clean lint and wood dust out of the charging hole.
ben_dover@lemmy.world 8 months ago
try a magnetic charger. it may look a bit off leaving the usb-c part plugged into the phone, but there’s way less wear or lint
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Magnetic USB cables are usually dogshit though. They are not defined in the USB spec, so it’s the wild west out there.
Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Or wireless, I’ve used both for years
ter_maxima@jlai.lu 8 months ago
But they don’t have GrapheneOS 😟
asdfbla@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Unfortunately, the future of grapheneos is not certain anyway with Google going closed source on all the drivers and device trees
Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 8 months ago
They made it very clear that they’ll continue. It’s just a bit harder now. Plus, they’ll fast track their own hardware now.
Fedditor385@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But… Samsung also needs twice as many charges because for whatever reason, their batteries simply don’t last as long. Timewise, you get the same lifetime, from both. What good does a larger charging count bring, if you need to charge it twice as much? Misleading spec.
TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
idk my 5 year old Samsung only charges once a day to 85% and is good
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I had a Fold 3, and while I loved the form factor, the battery was shit.
The screen got broken, and I decided to upgrade to a Fold 6 so far I’m very impressed. I took it off the charger in my car at 100% on Wednesday night around 10pm, and put it back on the charger at 11:30pm Friday with 15% left.
48 hours with moderate usage (including some gaming and YouTube) is pretty good.
rimu@piefed.social 8 months ago
Although, replacing the battery on the Fairphone is so much easier that 1000 cycles is acceptable.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You say that like it’s impossible to change the battery on a Samsung phone. I can have it done in under 10 minutes.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
did you have to pull the screen off and then glue it back on
nanlux_user@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sure but not everyone is tech savvy.
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Before anyone rushes to replace their phones my Pixel 5 is nearly 5 years old, still on original battery (would be on at least 1200 cycles) and is presently sitting at 92% and claiming 1 day 11hrs remaining. Off the charger since 9:45 this morning and used for streaming music to my car while I was driving earlier. It still easily holds over 24 hours charge in my usage, so if I forget to charge it at night it’s usually around 40% in the morning and I can plug it in sometime in the morning to top up. Perfectly useable after almost 5 years, and this is pretty normal for Pixels in my experience.
Love the new EU measurement standards but per other people’s comments above they do not seem to mandate strict third-party testing, but rather rely on manufacturers submitting their results and adhering to the set test standards. This has not worked out well in the past, it should be mandatory third-party.
Cannot wait to see the return of user-replaceable batteries (thank you again, EU).
bytesonbike@discuss.online 8 months ago
Your pixel 5 didn’t just mysteriously die? There was a wave of them dying. Mine was part of the crossfire.
I loved the pixel 5 too, for like 3 years then mysteriously croaked.
Currently on the pixel 6 which is pretty good.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 months ago
I had the 5a, and the screen died after a small fall, apparently that was common with this phone, and yes I only found out defective it was from other reviews
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ive not heard of this - were you on the standard Google OS? I wonder if that makes any difference.
I’ve been on custom ROM (CalyxOS) for most of the phone’s life.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 months ago
[deleted]onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They largely fixed battery drain in the 9 series. It’s now in the same league as Samsung and Apple.
Peter1986C@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Pixel models <=5 have Qualcomm SoCs in them, while model >=6 has Tensor SoCs developed by Google (but fabricated by Samsung IIRC). No Samsung Exynos SoCs in them.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Damn, yeah. My pixel will drain 50% or more in a day, in my pocket. Brutal
474D@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So if you charge nightly, basically like 3 years for a pixel? That’s not really terrible, especially if using the a-series which is a decent value.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
your also assuming 0-100% charge every night which most people won’t do. so very likely much more than 3 years.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m one of the outliers in that I do 80 to ~10 before the day is over, then I’ll charge and keep going, or I keep it topped up on the wireless charger throughout the day. But overall I’m charging at least a full cycle daily. I use my phone heavily. 1.5y in and I started using the 80% cutoff for lifespan, but I haven’t noticed a decline, it’s preventative and not reactive.
Family member has my previous phone, 2.5y old, and has not complained to me about the battery. When it was in my possession it was the same use case/scenario. Their use case is lighter duty, but they leave the screen on for like 10 minutes after idle, never turning it off manually. Pain.
My previous previous phone was given to a sibling, 3.5y old, again when it was mine it got the same heavy use. They use a battery bank some days, but they can be an even heavier user than I am sometimes - discord voice and video chatting, games, even doing one while also on a desktop. 100 to 20 or less most days, I often see it in evening in battery saving mode around 10% when they are reaching for the bank. But that’s still with a few hours SoT and heavy use with socializing and games and stuff.
All 3 are pixel pros, 8/7/6. shrug
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d like my phone to last 5 years minimum.
That seems to be the new standard for continued software support too. If the phone only lasts for half of that, what’s the point?
Replacing the battery on a 9a is a invasive 64-step process(ifixit guide). The kit they sell is surprisingly cheap at $40, but has a list of other tools you need. Its definitely not a project most people will undertake.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
the person above is also assuming 0-100% charge every day. most people won’t go through a while battery every day, at least for the first couple years.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d prefer my phone to last longer than that for the price I paid (oh, wait. It’s a Samsung, and it’s already lived longer than that, lol)
blah3166@piefed.social 8 months ago
From @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on a post over at !android@lemdro.id
Yeah this is just manufacturers self rating themselves. This is just like VW cars rating themselves as getting 5-10mpg better than their competitors, when really they were just measuring from the balls.
The up side is if they fail to meet those ratings then are the consumers entitled to some sort of compensation?
Btw, I love how Piefed shows comments from cross-posts. Every client should do it, helps make the fediverse feel bigger and more diverse.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca 8 months ago
Wow. This is excellent for Samsung users.
I believe these are just claims rather than actual tests or measurements right?
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
1,000 charge cycles: OnePlus 13
Hmm. This one has newer silicone-carbon lithium-ion batteries, which should actually increase charge cycles, so what’s happening here?
reddig33@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s strange, considering they all use the same battery suppliers.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
They also bundle twice as much crapware