Men are opening up about mental health to AI instead of humans

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https://aiindexes.com/men-mental-health-ai/

A profound relational revolution is underway, not orchestrated by tech developers but driven by users themselves. Many of the 400 million weekly users of ChatGPT are seeking more than just assistance with emails or information on food safety; they are looking for emotional support.

“Therapy and companionship” have emerged as two of the most frequent applications for generative AI globally, according to the Harvard Business Review. This trend marks a significant, unplanned pivot in how people interact with technology.

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MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It’s stupid as hell to share any personal information with a company that is interested in spying on you and feeding your data to the nearest advertiser they can find.

Like seriously – are people using their brains or what?

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- Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  are people using their brains or what?
  
  What? No. Seriously, are you new here? And by here I mean Earth.
  
  I see idiots all around me. Everybody only interested in advancing themselves. But if we advanced the group, it would be better for EVERYBODY.
  
  But we as a species are too stupid to build a society that benefits everybody.
  
  So no. No brain use here.
  
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- roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Donald Trump was ELECTED TWICE. How is the stupidity of humanity not apparent.
  
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- IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  they need therapy, obviously they need help, and blaming them for not doing the most reasonable thing that might be unaffordable is even stupider.
  
  blame predatory AI, openai could in a single afternoon make it so Chatgpt recomends or even helps you find a local therapist, instead of enabling this for profit.
  
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  - captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Do they need therapy? Or do they need a world they can actually fucking live in?
    
    It’s not like either one is available to them.
    
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- aceshigh@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Everything collects data. To extrapolate, it’s stupid to post on lemmy or shitter because the same will happen.
  
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ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
ChatCBT

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skrlet13@feddit.cl ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
genAI chatbots are so predatory

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- Opinionhaver@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  LLMs have no intentions. They only do what the user asks them to.
  
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  - Solrac@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Offline it is… Online, they use it as training, and companies buy the data and trends. Both of you are right. LLMs, are just trained, they repeat patterns, but have no intent in an of itself, but companies will steer towards whatever gets them more revenue, so if an AI bro company goes for psychology, it’ll just be a repeat of BetterHelp
    
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mycodesucks@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Look, if you can afford therapy, really, fantastic for you. But the fact is, it’s an extremely expensive luxury, even at poor quality, and sharing or unloading your mental strain with your friends or family, particularly when it is ongoing, is extremely taxing on relationships. Sure, your friends want to be there for you when they can, but it can put a major strain depending on how much support you need. If someone can alleviate that pressure and that stress even a little bit by talking to a machine, it’s in extremely poor taste and shortsighted to shame them for it. Yes, they’re willfully giving up their privacy, and yes, it’s awful that they have to do that, but this isn’t like sharing memes… in the hierarchy of needs, getting the pressure of those those pent up feelings out is important enough to possibly be worth the trade-off. Is it ideal? Absolutely not. Would it be better if these systems were anonymized? Absolutely. But humans are natural anthropomorphizers. They develop attachments and build relationships with inanimate objects all the time. And a really good therapist is more a reflection for you to work through things yourself anyway, mostly just guiding your thoughts towards better patterns of thinking. There’s no reason the machine can’t do that, and while it’s not as good as a human, it’s a HUGE improvement on average over nothing at all.

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Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Some people would rather yalk to something they know is fake than to talk to a person who may or may not be.

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androidul@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
for me, beer with friends solves it

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- undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You have friends?
  
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  - androidul@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    everyone’s a friend which drinks beer at the same table 🍻
    
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- Opinionhaver@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
  I only have the beer part of this equation figured out.
  
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Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Not only men at all.

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- Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I don’t think it’s only men either, but it’s worth considering the implications and potential causes for what is being said here.
  
  We have had not decades but centuries of macho culture, where mental health is a taboo for men because “I strong, me no cry” and we know that mental health struggles go underreported on men. This is just adding more evidence to a symptom that we already know, of a society that hasn’t been able to course correct because it’s too set in tradition to allow those who need help to seek it without feeling like garbage.
  
  While I’m not saying this is a problem exclusive to men, I think the causes and effects on women and men are rather different. We’ve now known for a while that women with mental health issues or disorders tend to go undiagnosed (even more so than unreported). The case of autism is particularly blatant, as women only started to get diagnosed in a meaningful proportion in the 80s (despite autism not being sex- or gender-driven). www.autism.org.uk/…/autistic-women-and-girls
  
  Similarly, that underdiagnosing came from the stereotyping of gender roles and the fact that being quiet and pretty equated being “feminine”, which is “good”, so can’t be autistic, because autistic is bad.
  
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  - sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The performative masculinity of many men is also reinforced by partriarchichal norms in many women, who consistently belittle men who attempt to express their emotions without judgement, who demand macho men, who belittle men who aren’t financially better off than them.
    
    Men can’t talk to most men, and they can’t talk to most women, society in general still largely demands they conform to the ‘bottle it all in, buck up and deal with it’ norm that is so very obviously harmful to men, and whoever they eventually take it out on when they have a breakdown.
    
    … These are broad generalizations, but they are still broadly accurate.
    
    Yep, the psychology industry/field has been unfair to women for a long, long time, often hideously so.
    
    But no widespread progress on deconstructing and at least softening male machismo norms until we as a society acknowledge that… men are not the only sex/gender that often have ingrained patriarchal norms.
    
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  - Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Fair, but it’s still a shady title IMO.
    
    Just a “… mental health too” would have made it both correct and more nuanced IMO.
    
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- shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Well it was men’s mental health month. Funny how I just found that out today. But please, let’s talk about women’s mental health issues.
  
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  - sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Wait, we have one of those?
    
    Genuienly had no idea.
    
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corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Even I Canada, where mental health is still a value-add for most of us and not a right even under our current system, we are offered a fund with some jobs to use for either physiotherapy or mental health, and it’s a limited fund.

Give us a choice, and 10/10 times we will prioritize being able to walk and move and sleep effectively over feeling good about it.

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