Submitted 3 months ago by gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical.
Jesus actually teached that everybody deserves to get fed and housed. That everybody deserves healthcare. That people should care for other people in their community. That is essentially the core principles of socialism.
For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical
No, no, you were indoctrinated by people with agenda
Jesus was saying, and everyone was obeying, like a good person does
/s in case it’s not clear
bad look for socialism honestly
One of Marx’s biggest inspirations was the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus also hated the Nicoleathans. And if you want socialism without a revolution, which is also not OK, you need yo go the Nicoleathan way.
What is the Nicolaitan way? Wikipedia is quite short on it.
Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s
That’s pro dictatorship in perpetuity, aka fascism.
Jesus wants people to help each other voluntarily and not by the power of the state.
Socalism is about owning a share of your workplace. Its got nothing to do with free healthcare or caring for the community
Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.
Socialist Jesus is
And then Jesus said:
“Thou hast nothing to lose but thy chains! Take all the tools from those that dare to enslave thee and build thy own communities where all of you equally decide what to do!”
I’ve never heard this one before. It’s on the internet so I will live my life by it.
they know christianity is bullshit but it’s great for getting votes
If only t said anything about democracy instead of divine rights of kings, some of it might have been avoidable.
Jesus was an authoritarian. He believed there should be one being with ultimate power and control who everyone else should obey unquestioningly.
He believed that this being was better than every living person. That any person who disobeyed the ruler should be tortured. That we are only alive, only well, only happy, if the ruler permits it.
That any person who disobeyed the ruler should be tortured.
If this is about hell, I don’t think Jesus believed in hell, at least not as we know it. He also did definitely teach about erasing the social hierarchy, at least among humans. So he was a theocrat, sure, but he wasn’t only a theocrat.
Matthew 25:41
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
It’s part of a parable, but if we disregard parables then “jesus’ teachings” becomes a small pamphlet.
He was a cult leader opposing status quo in an authoritarian empire. It’s kind of a tough position, I imagine he used whatever was practical and contradicted himself a lot.
The core part of what he preached was very progressive for the time and place. Later, as it usually goes, it got coopted and lost 98% of its bite (imo)
Which part of status quo did he oppose? Personal wealth, yes, but that tends to be a common cult leader position. That followers should give everything to the cause.
Other than that Jesus commanded to render unto ceaser what belongs to ceaser.
If anything socialism is Christianism since that’s what Jesus taught.
Lol it’s like reading fan fiction
They say the same thing about socialism.
Aristotle discussed some ideas central capitalism. Why don’t we start a new cult around him and his ideas? We could eventually use the cult to exploit vulnerable individuals, brainwash innocent people, commit human rights violations, incite people into committing hate crimes, start wars and promote chaos and suffering in general.
Teached -> taught
The problem was that the church needed to reach out to the nobles to spread, so promising wealth became a sticking point
I always think of Jesus as a Buddhist Jew.
Peace and love are not in man’s nature, regardless if you are a Christian or a Socialist, or both. “My god will fuck you up if I don’t get my money!”. That is the twist on capitalism.
Peace and love are not in man’s nature
That’s bullshit. Capitalism isn’t some kind of inherent thing to humanity.
You may be right.
No, but it shows how little progress we did as humanity for the last 2000 years
he also believed in slavery and poverty and paying taxes to imperial dictators
pretty strong argument he would map out as an authoritarian socialist of some stripe yeah
There are evangelical thought leaders that preach the opposite. They say liberals are wrong about all of that.
And people believe up is down.
Meltdown@lemmy.world 3 months ago
DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 3 months ago
Jesus Christ believes himself to be the Jewish Messiah. The man literally was going to be king of Israel after kicking the Romans out of their land. So like… Yeah. He was also an authoritarian.
plyth@feddit.org 3 months ago
citation needed
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
The intersection between Authoritarianism and Socialism:
It’s just a regular venn diagram
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Socialism (not social democracy) tends to go that way 😅
Meltdown@lemmy.world 3 months ago
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The fact you can so boldly miss the entire point of social -ism is hilarious and sad.