Matrix org isn’t obligated to run a public instance at all - they could stick to developing the spec, and let other people run instances.
And honestly maybe they should, because then we wouldnt have this huge consolidation problem on matrix.org in the first place
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Not trying to be a dick but the Executive Director can take a fucking pay cut.
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I found a reddit thread from 4 months ago where he said his salary was $170k/year. I’m not saying he is making obscene money, but if that’s nearly 15% of all operating costs he can shave that down to $80k-$100k and still live comfortably if he’s willing to accept a more austere standard of living.
I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to be paid well, but he’s getting a damn sight better pay than moderators and community managers who seem to make up 30% of the budget for multiple people.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Depends on what that title actually means. Viewing it as a pie chart skews it so you don’t realize that $170k in USD is pretty mediocre for a Director of Engineering role. If the project dies without this person, and that’s what they need in salary to make it worth it to keep them there, then that’s what they get paid.
It’s not like they’re even making an obscene amount of money ffs. That’s a middling engineering salary, and this person is running the whole show. You should see what other “director” jobs at much shittier companies get paid. I think twice this amount would be a weak guess. If this person was a prick, they’d be milking that goat and taking all the free money.
This is an open source project backed by a non-profit foundation, granted, but this person is taking a massive pay cut just by working this job. Think about how that might impact their life to make that choice while trying to have a family.
$170k salary still won’t you a fucking house in this country unless you live in the middle of nowhere, and this person is almost certainly in a major tech hub city, so that money means diddly when trying to pay the bills. It’s barely above the poverty line in Silicon Valley after taxes for reference.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
If they have to pay their Executive Director that much as a non-profit and are failing to meet their funding goals as a non-profit the amount he gets paid has fuck-all to do with where he lives, and has everything to do with him failing at his job to secure funding.
So we’re supposed to fund this guys lifestyle as people who donate to the project while the project itself twists in the wind? Give me a fucking break, dude. This is how you set your organization up for failure.
Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Exactly. I’m nowhere close to the top of the tech ladder, but I make more than that and still have to rent and will be renting for several more years. To buy an average house in this city, it would be like 7k/month without a 20% down payment. And household debt needs to be 30% of your total income so I would need to make $250k to even get approved for a loan for an average house in the city.
zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
That’s probably because I live in another country which works very differently, so what I’ll say is not a judgement about the veracity of your comment, but I find incredible that $14’000 a month could be in any capacity considered a mediocre salary… the French president earns that in euros!
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 3 weeks ago
You don’t have to buy a house every year
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
170k for running a company? Shit. I wouldn’t do that. You can make just as much being a halfway competent developer, and it’s way less stress.
FireIced@lemmy.super.ynh.fr 3 weeks ago
I guess you live in the USA? No one makes this amount of money
kayky@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
It must not be that stressful if you have $170k leftover to pay yourself.
Most people work more stressful jobs for considerably less. We should stop giving CEOs a pass.
This shouldn’t need to be said, but most people are useful idiots so here we are.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Maybe. But $170K isn’t what it used to be, even 5 years ago. Especially if you have kids.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Does that matter if he is failing to secure enough funding to run the non-profit? If they’re risking shutting down major portions of what they do as the guiding foundation for the Matrix protocol, isn’t that literally his fault since he’s in charge? If the non-profit fails are all the people who donated their fucking money in hopes of it succeeding going to be happy that instead of being willing to take a haircut on pay to save the damn organization he was instead using their donated funds to fund his fucking lifestyle instead of, I don’t know, living in a more modest area and doing more of the foundation business remotely?
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
i made 100k last year, so I feel I have a good grasp of what 60ish k more would be
imo you can just fuck off with this argument
Myro@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
To be fair, that’s the lowest executive salary I’ve seen in a looong time.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
What’s with the “Trust and Safety” bit? And are the events really necessary?
Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Your solution to someone complaining that the boss is earning too much is to suggest they pay the other workers less (or not at all)?
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Ah yes, exploit free labor. Capitalism’s favorite way to make money.
kayky@thelemmy.club 3 weeks ago
Yeah, it’s all grifts for morons by scumbags.
Some idiots were really trying to peddle the lie that infosec.exchange costs $5000/month to host while of course providing no verifiable evidence, just “trust them bro.” It’s sad watching suckers lap it up without a second thought.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Exec@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Now 9 wonder if there’s a similar report for Mozilla
QBertReynolds@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You can pull the form 990 for any non-profit in the US pretty easily. Here’s Mozilla’s: projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/…/200097189
kazerniel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I am, that much money is obscene. Converted that’s like 125k GBP, you can buy a house for cash every 3 years in the UK from that much money O.o
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I make only slightly less than that in American dollars and I’m not at all close to running a company. I’m very solidly lower middle class I will also not be buying a hour for another 5-6 years.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
yeah every 3 years is too much!
… well, tax so
every 5 years then!
… oh right rent he’d pay in the interim
fine every 7 years!
… ahhhh food costs money too!
okay okay every 8 years!
… i guess people do tend to pay bills
every 9 years!
… it’s not reasonable to be a shut in for those 6 years and being social costs money
every 10 years!
thundermoose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Employees have to pay for basically everything in the US, so salaries have to be a lot higher here. School, childcare, healthcare, retirement, you name it. Also, all those things are more expensive here because they’re provided by companies that need to make a profit. It sucks.