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• flux@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Wish the homeserver portability would be worked on more. The ability to change homeserver would really allow people to more easily move on from matrix.org.

  Myself included ;).

  Optimally it would even allow the switch “after the fact”, so after your original homeserver is down, assuming your client has a local copy of the server-side secret storage. It would need to be based on some cryptographic identity then, I suppose.

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not trying to be a dick but the Executive Director can take a fucking pay cut.

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  I found a reddit thread from 4 months ago where he said his salary was $170k/year. I’m not saying he is making obscene money, but if that’s nearly 15% of all operating costs he can shave that down to $80k-$100k and still live comfortably if he’s willing to accept a more austere standard of living.

  I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to be paid well, but he’s getting a damn sight better pay than moderators and community managers who seem to make up 30% of the budget for multiple people.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Depends on what that title actually means. Viewing it as a pie chart skews it so you don’t realize that $170k in USD is pretty mediocre for a Director of Engineering role. If the project dies without this person, and that’s what they need in salary to make it worth it to keep them there, then that’s what they get paid.

    It’s not like they’re even making an obscene amount of money ffs. That’s a middling engineering salary, and this person is running the whole show. You should see what other “director” jobs at much shittier companies get paid. I think twice this amount would be a weak guess. If this person was a prick, they’d be milking that goat and taking all the free money.

    This is an open source project backed by a non-profit foundation, granted, but this person is taking a massive pay cut just by working this job. Think about how that might impact their life to make that choice while trying to have a family.

    $170k salary still won’t you a fucking house in this country unless you live in the middle of nowhere, and this person is almost certainly in a major tech hub city, so that money means diddly when trying to pay the bills. It’s barely above the poverty line in Silicon Valley after taxes for reference.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If they have to pay their Executive Director that much as a non-profit and are failing to meet their funding goals as a non-profit the amount he gets paid has fuck-all to do with where he lives, and has everything to do with him failing at his job to secure funding.

      So we’re supposed to fund this guys lifestyle as people who donate to the project while the project itself twists in the wind? Give me a fucking break, dude. This is how you set your organization up for failure.

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  • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Maybe. But $170K isn’t what it used to be, even 5 years ago. Especially if you have kids.

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Does that matter if he is failing to secure enough funding to run the non-profit? If they’re risking shutting down major portions of what they do as the guiding foundation for the Matrix protocol, isn’t that literally his fault since he’s in charge? If the non-profit fails are all the people who donated their fucking money in hopes of it succeeding going to be happy that instead of being willing to take a haircut on pay to save the damn organization he was instead using their donated funds to fund his fucking lifestyle instead of, I don’t know, living in a more modest area and doing more of the foundation business remotely?

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    • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      i made 100k last year, so I feel I have a good grasp of what 60ish k more would be

      imo you can just fuck off with this argument

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  • Exec@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Now 9 wonder if there’s a similar report for Mozilla

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s with the “Trust and Safety” bit? And are the events really necessary?

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    • Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your solution to someone complaining that the boss is earning too much is to suggest they pay the other workers less (or not at all)?

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    • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ah yes, exploit free labor. Capitalism’s favorite way to make money.

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• IsaamoonKHGDT_6143@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Matrix became the new Discord

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• mintiefresh@piefed.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  so ... Matrix Nitro?

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• altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  For just $19.95 a month you can talk to all your friends!

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• lupusblackfur@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We have been communicating on the lack of funds in the Foundation for a while now, the latest being here. And whilst we’ve been working hard to gather new members and are happy to see the number of logos increasing (thank you all for seeing the need for Matrix to stay independent and safe, and the value in supporting it!), none of the big players in the ecosystem have actually committed to one of the higher membership tiers, so we need to find other ways towards sustainability.

  🤔

  Sounds like that business plan isn’t working out like you hoped…

  And/Or not enough users care to use your product.

  🤷‍♂️

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  • shrugal@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s not how non-profit foundations work.

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    • lupusblackfur@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      😂

      Still need users. And folks who like/want/use the product enough to care to donate.

      If neither is happening, you’re business model is failing. Profit or nonprofit.

      🤷‍♂️

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• LWD@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The alternative is to turn off the server, which we want to avoid doing.

  The funnier and IMO better option

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  • stm@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    and the entire protcol with it, they just have better marketing than xmpp, and from what i read are even worse protocol.

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    • cecilkorik@piefed.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      xmpp is still the best, nobody's ever going to change my mind. jabber 4 lyfe!

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