I really appreciate iFixit and how they help bring the discussion of repairability to the forefront.
iFixit says the Switch 2 is even harder to repair than the original
Submitted 2 months ago by moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/681568/ifixit-nintendo-switch-2-repairability
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AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 months ago
i was looking at them originally to fix my pixel 5a phone, than realize it wasnt worth the cost.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Part of the difficulty is that Nintendo have hitsquads that will blow your city if you even look sideways at one of the screw.
phar@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Blow a whole city? That’s dedication
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There is nobody with more dedication than IP lawyers and Nintendo.
xeekei@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Not surprised, given it’s Nintendo. My Switch Lite has seen very little use since I got my Steam Deck, tho.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I mean yeah, I wouldn’t expect otherwise. Nobody hates their fans more than Nintendo does.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Ironic because apparently the fan is actually pretty easily replaceable.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Not surprising. Nintendo is turning into the Apple of the video game world.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nintendo has been the Apple of the video game world since the N64.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
NES actually, a good number of PC games got made because folks didn’t want to deal with Nintendo and Sega arguably got into the market cause Nintendo was too strict in their publishing policy. That last bit is ironic given the AI slop and hentai on their online store, nothing against the hentai I just think it’s funny.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Even Apple makes more repairable hardware.
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Yeah once sued. They weren’t going to offer it up otherwise, I suspect something similar is going to have to happen to Nintendo.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 2 months ago
Not a problem. I wasn’t gonna buy one amyways.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 months ago
dint buy the original switch, considered how they kept trying to keep ahead people tried to homebrew it, also because the lack of quality games.
Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I will, used in a few years. Assuming emulation isn’t rapidly done again.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
What’s the appeal of the switch for when PC handhelds exist ? I just don’t get it why you would buy this unless you had children. Nintendo Games are good but they’re really not that good either.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
People like playing Nintendo original games. Mario games, Zelda games, etc.
The only way to legally play those is on the switch.
Yes, even non children play those games.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
You can legally play them on an ROG Ally or other Pc handheld . It is not illegal to emulate a game that you own.
But I get that it’s just that I don’t think Nintendo games warrant buying an entire system anymore. If their consoles had more third party support maybe, but I just don’t see the value at the current price of the console.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Mario. Zelda. Metroid. For a time the occasional Splatoon. Maybe a Wario once in a while too. Some Pikmin. Even the built-in (paid) list of emulator games are attractive.
Also, you severely underestimate the convenience factor for a lot of people. Yeah, I have a Steam Deck, and 95% of the time, it’s a completely seamless experience. With consoles, it’s 100% of the time. People want a “I turn it on, I start a game”, not a “I turn it on, I might be able to start a game, and sometimes it needs a bit of fiddling, not much, but, more than zero. And sure, I could have this or that other thing by going there and running that, you know, sometimes”.
kadup@lemmy.world 2 months ago
with consoles, it’s 100% of the time
Several Switch 1 games are facing issues on Switch 2, including broken textures, crashes and weird behavior. This whole “consoles are 100%!” idea has been dead since the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 generation.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I have children, like their first party titles, and dislike piracy. I also have a PC handheld that gets more use than the Switch, and I like both.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
and dislike piracy.
Because you cant just… You know, Fucking Rip the game from The cardridge?
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Battery life and weight. That’s what keeps me from getting a pc handheld. Although the switch 2 is so big I don’t know if that holds true anymore
forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Switch 2 battery life also isn’t fantastic.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There are PC handhelds that do old emulated games pretty well with good battery life. Sorta like a modern version of a DS or PSP.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The steam deck has great battery life (better than my original switch by a lot) unless you’re playing something super heavy, and it’s so much more comfortable to hold that the bit of extra weight isn’t that big a deal. I don’t think I’ve touched my switch since I got a deck
echodot@feddit.uk 2 months ago
The switch 2 would have better battery life it was powered by the life force of a mayfly.
unphazed@lemmy.world 2 months ago
2 hour battery time
psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
From my friend, the main advantage the switch have is the UI for games is being design for handheld from the get go, so big, readable font and icon is by default already there and is made to fit. PC game tend to made for either a 24inch or so monitor or big tv for couch gaming, games that doesn’t have UI accessibility option on a handheld PC is unplayable for a lot of people.
Also that damn controller can be split so coop is so accessible. Not to mention that first party games.
RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
My Switch Lite is far more comfortable for me to play with than my Steam Deck. I know there are people who say that the Steam Deck is more comfortable and I believe them, but I get tired holding something big and heavy.
network_switch@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Friends with Switchs to play Smash Bros and Mario Party. Occasional Nintendo game but everything else PC. It’s lighter than almost every PC handheld. The Ayaneo Air 1S is lighter but has a 5.5" display
I have a PC handheld but they’re all too heavy in my opinion. The holy grail to me is a Steam Deck that’s about the same weight as a Switch 2 or lighter. 7" display
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Hope the drift issue is fixed. Ran into the issue with two of mine. The paper under the joystick hack didn’t work and one of the brand new replacement joysticks I installed isn’t responsive. 🙄
cowfodder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Spoiler alert: it’s not. Same joysticks as last time.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Are you fucking kidding? They didn’t switch to Hall Effect?
Goretantath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s not, and the joycons are even HARDER to repair due to a piece of plastic glued over a screw on the inside…
psud@aussie.zone 2 months ago
Thanks to 3d printing I have litres of isopropyl. What sucks is you probably want to replace the glue since it’s there to protect against liquids, and Nintendo don’t care to provide a seal kit
You also need to remove stickers to get at the screws
Also you need a security screwdriver (three blade) for those screws
There are no replacement stickers, we wait for iFixit to provide guidance on adhesives
mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 months ago
Congrats it's worse! Harder to get to :)
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Great video. That’s a disappointing outcome though.
It was interesting to hear though that Nintendo hasn’t made any replacement parts available for the original switch, despite the fact that New York State apparently requires this by law.
I wonder if they’ll be forced to comply with that at some point. There are probably other jurisdictions that require this or that will require this soon. I’d love to see some pressure applied to companies that don’t supply replacement parts.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
At this point I trust in the EU to force Nintendo to play the right-to-repair game.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, the EU has shown they’re serious when it comes to consumer protections. It’s great to see!
psud@aussie.zone 2 months ago
I wonder if Nintendo will ever embrace repairability like some phone companies have
I guess there’s more competition in phones than in devices that can run Mario Cart
pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
If you consider how hostile they are with everything else, I highly doubt it. Nintendo never again
Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Or Mortal Combat.
Susurrus@lemm.ee 2 months ago
This was inevitable. Everybody who was ever going to buy a Switch has already bought one. How else are they going to make more money? Keep increasing prices and keep cutting costs (enshittification essentially). These two will be the centre of all big business for the coming years.
Dave@lemmy.nz 2 months ago
Haha when they did that blog post to change the switch from 8/10 to 4/10 saying they don’t normally do that but wanted to make sure you could compare the 2 properly against the original, I thought they were making space for the 2 to be above the original, not that they were going to mark it as worse 😅
andybytes@programming.dev 2 months ago
the Switch 2 is a waste of money.
katze@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
Just don’t break it smh.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh good idea I hadn’t thought of that
helpmyusernamewontfi@lemmy.today 2 months ago
you forgot the /s
katze@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
“smh” serves the same purpose here.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
I honestly don’t care how difficult it is, only if it’s possible, if it’s cost-effective, and if there are any fucking corporate shenanigans that intentionally make it harder.
three@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I don’t care about the difficulty Nintendo better not have made it difficult
uh
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
I didn’t say that, you just made it up so I’m not sure what your point is.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 months ago
I honestly don’t care how difficult it is, only if it’s possible
Can you think in the relationship of the two variables?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Bruh just likes a challenge.
crabArms@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s… What the repairability score is.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
I wasn’t talking about the repairability score. I was talking about the title of this article stating that it’s “harder” to repair than the Switch 1.
Slayer@infosec.pub 2 months ago
You’re either a troll or a moron, this is the second time I saw you write stupid shit on a post.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
I’m neither but you are a jackass, goodbye.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Ease of repair and cost effectiveness are literally the same thing.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 months ago
They’re literally not LOL.
If they glue in the battery it doesn’t cost me anything extra to remove it.
aTun@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I thought Nintendo devices were built like tanks, nes, snes, all old consoles are still playable. How long did the new Nintendo devices like switch last? I think the screen and battery are the main limit of devices life.
mlg@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Lol nah, they might be generally well designed, but they’ve been making it all in China (until now for tariff bypass) for decades now, so you don’t get the Japanese OEM quality shine you usually get out of other electronics.
Most of the repair will be for damaged consoles. Switch 1 battery lasted pretty well considering most phone batteries begin to deteriorate around 4 years.
Aside from that though, I expect the joycon drift issue to be unfixed which will be the real issue, especially as warranties expire.
SaladKing@lemm.ee 2 months ago
All the more reason for me not to purchase it.
errer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
After the initial excitement I think the Switch 2 is gonna bomb. Offers too little for too much.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Maybe if it was 349 or 399… but 499 is wild
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Just yesterday I spent 3 hours faming MK8D on my PC. Cozy on my bed and a controller -+ a remote keyboard.
Felt like the real deal.
Psythik@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I hope you’re right. Nintendo has turned into a bunch of cocky assholes and they need to be taught a hard lesson. I hope the Switch 2 flops so hard, costing them so much that they don’t have any spare money left to continue suing the Palworld devs. They need to be put in their place.
psud@aussie.zone 2 months ago
The guy doing the teardown recommended you wait until a third party company makes a drift proof module to replace the same as last version joystick decoders