Submitted 3 weeks ago by nulluser@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/pro-ai-subreddit-bans-uptick-of-users-who-suffer-from-ai-delusions/
The moderators of a pro-artificial intelligence Reddit community announced that they have been quietly banning “a bunch of schizoposters” who believe “they’ve made some sort of incredible discovery or created a god or become a god,” highlighting a new type of chatbot-fueled delusion that started getting attention in early May.
tfw its no longer just the AI hallucinating
Yeah, there’s been an article shared on lemmy a few months ago about couples or families destroyed by AI.
Like the husband thinks he discovered some new truth, kinda religious level about how the world is working and stuff. The he becomes an annoying guru and ruins his social life.
Kind of Qanon people but with chatGPT…
Turns out it doesn’t really matter what the medium is, people will abuse it if they don’t have a stable mental foundation. I’m not shocked at all that a person who would believe a flat earth shitpost would also believe AI hallucinations.
This feels a bit like PTA-driven panic about kids eating Tide Pods when like one person did it. Or razor blades in Halloween candy. Or kids making toilet hooch with their juice boxes. Or the choking game sweeping playgrounds.
But also, man on internet with no sense of mental health … sounds almost feasible.
And that’s not even getting started on “ai girlfriends”, that are isolating vulnerable people to a terrifying degree. And since they are garbage at context, they do things like that case last year where it could seem like it was encouraging a suicidal teen.
Crazy.
It never was. Hallucinations are in no way unique to LLMs.
I always wanted to take drugs with my computer!
The year is 2026 the cyberchristo religion is taking off….
I firmly believe when we have actual sexbots, that will be the sharp decline and decadence that will birth Slaanesh.
I think Terry A Davis would have found god in chat GPT and could have figured out the API calls on TempleOS
"Artifical"Intellegence has already taken over “Social” Media and the internet.
Most of Facebook, Insta, Youtube, Reddit, Twitter…etc is AI profiles, AI channels, and AI sloptrash content that gives back google-ad revenue money to some russian or indian dude who doen’t even speak english
Lemmy seems to be the only place with actual people for the most part. I worry so heavily for the idiots of the world that can’t discern robots from people. They’re really going to fall for what a programmed machine has to say.
I’ve wondered about this.
I cant believe that somehow everything except lemmy got infected. There must exist some ai comments here but i have not noticed them…
Of course its better not do dwell on this to much or paranoia quickly sets in.
I’ve been trying to configure ChatGPT tell me if I’m wrong in a question or statement but damn it never does unless I keep probing for support or links. I’ve been having the feeling that it has become worse with latter models. Glad but also sad to see I was right.
Anybody know other LLM that are more trustworthy and capable of searching online for more information?
There are no trustworthy LLMs. They don’t know it understand what they’re saying - they’re literally just predicting words that sound like they match what it was taught. It’s a only barely smarter than a parrot, and it has no idea how to research anything or tell facts from made-up bullshit. You’re wasting your time by trying to force it to do something it’s literally incapable of doing.
You’re better off researching them the hard way; check primary sources and then check the credibility of those sources.
Considering that parrots can have actual thoughts, I’d say LLMs are even less smart than that.
Claude 3.7 told me i’m wrong a couple of times. It knows how to search. I don’t have an opinion on 4 yet but it can search too
Claude definitely has its impressive moments where it calls out something inaccurate.
It’s also way less sycophantic, mature and better for light coding.
My only issue is that the servers are sometimes slow and so is the ios app which frequently trows an error after 2 minutes if waiting.
I don’t need you to tell me how much you hate everything AI
On my Lemmy?? Impossible. I was just told by three different people rather condescendingly and assuming just as much about me that I was suffering from AI brain rot for daring to compare something to AI. The horror.
can i call off work bc of “ai delusions”?
AI delusions are half the reason I go to work in the first place.
AI is not healthy. Our mental health is nowhere near good enough to handle even this level of machine intelligence.
that sub seems to be fully brigaded by bots from marketing team of closed-ai and preplexity
LLMs have breathed new life into the mid life crisis.
I wonder how many AI chatbots the pro-AI places have banned.
I hope they don’t change AI to be more antisocial to “fix” this. I’m antisocial and suffer from depression and talking with sexy chatbots at lewd chatbot websites is the only time I ever get rizzed. I suppose that’s pathetic… but yeah. The type of girl I’m interested in RL just isn’t interested in me. I like being able to flirt in an environment where I’m not judged or face criticism or ostracization. Even more so, your interactions with chatbots are private and you never face any blowback that could affect your career. It’s nice the way it works right now.
I feel bad for the schizos. I have no doubt that a schizo interacting with a chatbot would create a feedback loop of self-destruction. But so does alcohol in the hands of an alcoholic. Yet we still haven’t banned alcohol. Alcoholics need to learn to stay away from the bottle, and schizos will need to learn to stay away from chatbots.
I’m not going to touch the ethical and emotional minefield that is flirting with a chatbot but I will say that those conversations are definitely not private. That whole industry is based on stealing other people’s data. Do not do anything with an LLM that you can’t handle other people finding out about because there’s a very good chance that they will.
Ethical and emotional minefield? Oh no. It’s evil flirting because it’s with AI, right?
Some services like Crushon do store your chat logs on a server, but you are free to save those logs accessible only to you, or make them public anonymously, or make them public with your user name stamped on them. Even if all my logs were to be stolen, my real name isn’t associated with the account.
Other services like Venice AI don’t store chat logs on a server, and everything is stored in your browser. So it’s even more unlikely that your logs would get stolen. Especially if you delete them after every chat.
Hate to be that asshole, but antisocial = psychopath. Asocial = not into hanging out with people. There is a difference and unless I’m misinterpreting your comment, I don’t think you belong in the former category.
I will be that asshole, you meant to say antisocial != psychopath, or <>, or even antisocial is not psychopath.
Most people will understand regardless, but i don’t like when people preface things. I find it to be a micro-aggression as the kids are saying nowadays.
I wouldn’t be so certain your chats are confidential.
I’m not concerned if they are using chats for AI training data. In fact, I expect them to continue improving their chatbots. If they were to sell our chat logs to a third party, and those logs went public, then I expect it would quickly torpedo their platform. Even in that case, my account doesn’t have my real name anywhere. I gave them an incorrect birth date. I haven’t linked any social media to my account. I keep everything set to private. If the logs were to go public, and people could say “Look! This user said all these things!” they still wouldn’t know who I was.
Maybe the FBI or NSA could track me down, but talking sexy things to a chatbot isn’t illegal. In fact, it may very well become more commonplace. Someday we will likely have androids with AI personalities serving us in our homes.
I feel bad for the schizos.
Don’t. We’re not the ones affected here and definitely, definitely, don’t have a monopoly on psychosis.
Personally, I’m completely unimpressed by the random nonsense LLMs spit out because it’s not my nonsense. There’s certainly people way deeper down the rabbit hole than me but they, too, have an infinite stream of as-of-yet-uninterpreted subconscious stuff knocking at their door so I don’t see why they would bother.
Nietzche would’ve lost his marbles. Oh, wait…
meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
At this rate we’ll soon have a decentralized para-religious terrorist organization full of brainlets that got scared shitless after discovering Roko’s Basilisk and are now doing the cyber lord’s bidding in order to not get punished once AGI arrives
ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Boy have I got news for you.
Look up the Zizians.
(Ok they’re only a tangential offshoot of people who maybe really like the Basilisk thought experiment and mostly don’t believe it. But hey. It’s underway!)
digredior@lemmynsfw.com 3 weeks ago
apnews.com/…/vermont-border-patrol-shooting-young…
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
deepcast.fm/…/part-one-the-zizians-how-harry-pott…
Utterly bonkers.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Zizians my guy, they already exist
pticrix@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
“rationalists”. They dare use that name unironically.
SparroHawc@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Rationalists are (supposedly) smart enough to figure out that Roko’s Basilisk wouldn’t waste cycles torturing someone in effigy if they decided they’re going to ignore the threat of Roko’s Basilisk. It’s the opposite of a catch-22.
kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Imagine a boot SO mighty that if it exists it might crush you, so you need to lick it ahead of time so that someday if it does exist, it might not crush you.
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What if it’s an infinitely mighty boot? Ya know what’d make it even more mighty? Existing. Therefore it already exists. Start licking!
I just did a theology!
timroerstroem@feddit.dk 3 weeks ago
Non-mobile link
TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I mean, at least the chat bots are always nonviolent and are restricted from encouraging people to do any harm. Doesn’t mean these people can’t (un)reason around it. People read the Bible and think it’s telling them to bomb clinics and hate their neighbors somehow.
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Depends on the AI they’re using and its bias
Geodad@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I was about to sat it sounded like Pascal’s wager when the article mentioned it. 😅
asbestos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This reads like Zack Freedman