Circular firing squad
I’ve seen situations here on lemmy where I would cause it if I where to argue with someone
I am leftist
We gonna fight
Submitted 10 months ago by Iheartcheese@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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x4740N@lemm.ee 10 months ago
HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Why can’t we have Leftist Unity? The fucking Rightists can agree on hating “The Libz”
Why can’t we agree on hating cons? Sadly I can’t even get Leftist factions to agree on “LGBT Rights are based and cool”, because Left-Learning TERFs exist and I’ve had Tankies pull “LGBT Rights is racist because it means forcing Western Ideals where they don’t belong” crap on me.
nectar45@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Because being a leftist just isnt as fun when you dont hate everyone and everything. Hate is fun
threeduck@aussie.zone 10 months ago
We can’t even use the best slurs because we’re too considerate.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 10 months ago
People on the left love to “well actually…” every issue, every opinion, because nothing in the world is 100%, but when something is 85%+ we should just stfu about it, agree and move on to more pressing issues.
But of course we can’t, so we keep losing.
Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Of course the only reply to this is a “srs leftist” who immediately proclaims you an enemy for shit you didn’t say
We can’t have leftist unity because the right has never run short on useful idiots
gremlinsgensss@lemmings.world 10 months ago
You voted for a genocider. You are part of the right, not the left. Even if you’re trans
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
your lack of participation enabled an actual genocider. think things have gotten better in the last 5 months for gaza? ukraine?
you think you’ll ever take responsibility for your own poor choices?
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Just so we’re clear, democrats are blue conservatives and are not leftists.
The meme is still accurate though. Why does Futurama look so anime? Did i miss a new episode?
HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s from an episode that does a terribly shallow parody of anime. Ya know the kind where there’s tentacle monsters everywhere despite me not being able to name a single anime I’ve ever seen that has that, just Western Parodies of anime and everyone talks in horrible Engrish in forced asian accents, even though not even dubbers as inept as 4Kids do that?
Basically the “I’m 65 and the only Japanese Cartoon I’ve ever seen is Speed Racer, and maybe parts of one episode of Pokemon my nephew was watching?” school of anime parodies.
I fucking hate shallow parodies.
fwdbias@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Season 6 episode 26
loomy@lemy.lol 10 months ago
this is the long way to become right wing
son_named_bort@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ll start my own leftism, with Blackjack and hookers! If fact, forget the blackjack. Ah, screw the whole thing.
Soulg@ani.social 10 months ago
Half the replies in this thread: so true bestie, except fuck those guys for not being left enough
HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 months ago
If you think trans rights are a bargaining chip, you aint leftist enough for me!
Soulg@ani.social 10 months ago
Ok but who thinks that, I’ve not seen anything about that anywhere on lemmy, so it must not be very common
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 months ago
The better strategy would be to change what a Republican is and stands for, then we could all have our cake and the idiots in our country can still feel like they won.
Democrat can mean or represent literally anything, even if they did a 180 and began supporting Trump, and my mother will still hate them, because they’re Democrats.
you can’t spin those fascists into anything but shit!
ehhhhhh… Traditional, old school Elephants were still very environmentally conscious, turn nationalism into a positive trait. Patriots for nature and equal pay from the established woke billionaires!
Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yugopnik made a good point on the term “Leftist” and how its so broad that it includes many different idealogies that are quite honestly conflicting, i.e. stalinists, anarchists, etc., so that it appears leftists are always fighting since they are all lumped into the same category.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I approve of any leftist as long as they are anti-authoritarian.
so that it appears leftists are always fighting since they are all lumped into the same category.
I always say it is because the left in general has its roots in old school liberal value of “think for yourself”. So there typically tends to be maverick attitude and in-fighting. The best example is the Spanish Republicans during the Spanish Civil War; you have soc dems, communists and anarchists fighting together not just against fascists, but also themselves. The right, meanwhile value order and hierarchy, so they tend to easily set aside their differences. Again, the Spanish Civil War is the best example, with the Spanish Nationalists also composed of various factions with competing agenda, but managed to set aside their differences, which made it all the easier to do because they had a strong man figure to rally to.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 10 months ago
And the right won that war, which goes to show the value of unity
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 10 months ago
For me, it makes much more sense to think about it all as pop culture. I’ll use America but this goes for any country.
The right leaning party represents pop culture. A dominant culture. The popular culture is American Apple pie and blue jeans with letter jackets.
The left represents everything outside the pop culture bubble. It’s a larger population as a whole, but they’re like little bubbles they all contain their own culture. Those cultures can conflict or merge and compliment each other. But they’re individually separate.
The pop culture is always feeling threatened. It needs to maintain the status quo. Every outside sub culture is trying to fight their way into the dominant culture.
So this is why the right leaning voters trend towards rejecting things like immigrants, minorities, LGQTB and often other sub groups that are not wildly accepted by the pop culture. This is also why the left leaning groups do not. They trend towards infighting about how to do things but overall they all focus efforts on taking status away from the pop culture.
When I view politics as a clash between pop culture and sub cultures, it makes so much of it make so much more sense.
Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 10 months ago
To me it sounds like you’re starting to broach on the concept of reactionary vs dialectical analysis
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The bigger problem is that politics today isn’t BS association to what “left” is versus BS association to what “right” is, it’s becoming those that are willing to work within a system versus those that are just willing to exploit it. Of course reasonable people that disagree are going to have more disagreements than an echo chamber masking a defrauding scheme.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
It’s a dubious place to be in. Those that believe in the system, and working within it…and the dangers of working outside of it…are realizing that there is no in-the-system countermeasure to those willing to work outside-the-system.
Those who believe in law and order can’t use law and order to wrangle in…the majority of the “law” and “order” that are working in extra-legal and extra-ordinary ways.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 10 months ago
There’s a reason the American revolution wasn’t just a group of people known for just peacefully protesting and criticizing until a new king rolled over.
Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Its almost as if a single dimension is not big enough to describe the diversity of human political thought.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Fun fact, I once alluded to this on reddit’s worldnews and they associated me with Hitler because apparently trying to say there is more than one dimension is trying to whitewash Nazism.
Troll factories can get defensive, don’t touch what they work with.
Klear@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I mean, not that I agree that you’re Hitler, but the only other possible choice was Stalin, so…
bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hupf@feddit.org 10 months ago
Fryla isn’t real, she can’t hurt you
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 months ago
See Ken Loach’s Land & Freedom on how factionalism and in-fighting within the Republican forces in the Spanish Civil war allowed the fascist Junta to win.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I have never met a leftist I didn’t like
but I only consider somebody a leftist if they respect human rights.
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Political ideology is a spectrum, and I feel that Leftists tend to be as hostile towards those they deem ‘not as left’ as them, just as much as they are towards Fascists, Neo-Cons and their ilk.
It’s basically the no true Scotsman fallacy manifest.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 months ago
Unfortunately all the wanna-be Pol Pots out there also consider themselves to be leftists.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 10 months ago
I’m always under the assumption that everyone can be an asshole. I had a very good friend qnd we’re both vegans. To me it’s just a dietary choice that i made, for her it was almost like a religion. Like when she met someone who was also a vegan or saw someone on tv that was a vegan, she always assumed that it’s a good person, or just rooted for that person, no questions asked.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 10 months ago
InverseParallax@lemmy.world 10 months ago
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Are we talking about actual leftist infighting, or mistaking liberals for the left and calling it infighting?
Also I’m almost certain that the actual left infights far less than the right. The only reason two Trump administrations hasn’t started the literal fourth reich yet is because they infight so hard that they can’t stick to any plan.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Liberals, as in advocates for liberalism and not a liberal party (which doesn’t even exist in the USA), are the entire left of the USA.
kreskin@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m sure the leftists would say its all progressives fault. For everything. But also that the leftists would never be allowed to have any place of authority in the party. They’d sooner have republicans.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Centrists will blend quietly into the right the way that Homer backs his way into a hedge.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Why do leftists adopt all the most horrible traits of trump supporters?
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Political polarization is a weapon, heard of the phrase “divide and conquer” They know how to churn up, scramble and disempower those on the side of anti-domination And that’s why all Kulaks will get the bullet and the red empire must extinguish all alternative off the face of this planet and every other planet around all stars
Cue the speech at the end of Team America World Police
So peace was never an option
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Nobody is left enough for anyone else on the left. You agree with me on an issue but differ on execution? You may as well be Trump!
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Soulg@ani.social 10 months ago
Sucks that the system in the USA is broken but until it’s fixed and we have more than two parties, democrats are the left.
ezterry@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
It’s better not to equate the two parties of the USA to the parties in a parliamentary system it’s a different beast.
The Democrats are the coalition of the left of center interest groups of the current time, and Republicans the coalition of the right of center interest groups of the current time.
These groups are more the parties of the parliamentary system and run candidates in the primaries of their respective parties, and possibly as independent from time to time (particularly when they feel a bit pushed out of the main parties). Also they push these candidates at all levels (local, state, congress ect)
I would love some sort of rank choice/instant runoff ballots to make more choices easier in the voting lineup, however those who are pushing for third parties without trying to run local politicians or promoting policies ect will likely not succeed in that system either.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
So it’s accurate but they’re both wrong because
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He is the left.
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He shouldn’t even be trying to converse with literal USSR advocates and literal anarchists as if they were part of his base.
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untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
this whole platform be like:
RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 10 months ago
I was recently banned for being “transphobic” for telling people what far right people believe about trans people, in the third person because I’m not far right nor have I ever been.
I’ve been pro-trans rights (AKA human rights) since I knew what the word “transgender” meant, which is going on twenty years or so now?
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’m banned from like 6 blahaj zone communities for one comment I made where me and two other users discussed the overlap of trans and gay.
Delphia@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Lemmy has a REALLY bad problem with people who dont actually read comments and process them. They skim read the post, see a few keywords and then argue the point that they want to argue regardless of what the original comment was.
Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 10 months ago
There are inherently more ways to imagine changes than to point at the status quo.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
If there’s an actual debate you’ve got to define terms. People’s definitions of ‘leftist’ can be pretty wild, especially if the debate is between an American and… mostly anyone outside America.
I have seen people waxing poetic about Imperial Japan and the Jakarta Method who consider themselves leftist, while at the same time associate outright NazBols with the left.
So ‘what do you actually mean by tankie/liberal?’ will usually cut through a lot of debate perv noise.
Objection@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
I have seen people waxing poetic about Imperial Japan
What? Who? Where? That’s an absolutely wild take.
Zenith@lemm.ee 10 months ago
And people love the no true Scotsman fallacy and constantly throw out that the person isn’t really this or that
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
This meme reminded me of all the different flavours of Christianity.
throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Is this Anime Futurama?
(Seriously, wtf is this shit?)
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
samus12345@lemm.ee 10 months ago
It’s the third bit from this episode. After the fantastic Death Note Simpsons parody, I wish Western cartoons that do anime style parody episodes would always have actual Japanese studios do it. It’s so much more effective when it looks like the real thing.
derry@midwest.social 10 months ago
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Thanks
Bleys@lemmy.world 10 months ago
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 months ago
trololo@lemmings.world 10 months ago
You voted for a genocider and you think TanKiE blindly support russia because you’re a jingoist and think peace voices are really modern-day KGB agent. Guess what, you can criticize the NATO without sucking putin’s dick.
In fact the putin regime have been put there by the US
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Political LeftRightism (n.)
Definition:
Political LeftRightism is a spatially encoded meta-framework of political orientation that frames ideological discourse along a singular, bipolar axis—left versus right—thereby reducing the full multidimensional landscape of political thought into a linear spectrum. As a memetic penetrator and perceptual instrument, LeftRightism functions not as a neutral map but as a meta-weapon of the ruling class: a cognitive architecture designed to channel dissent, structure debate, and neutralize system-level critique by confining political possibility to a predefined, adversarial dialectic within the system’s own terms.
Operational Mechanisms:
Perceptual Confinement: Constructs a false totality of ideological space by placing all positions, grievances, and aspirations on a left-to-right continuum. This flattens pluralistic thought into a binary schema and frames radical alternatives as fringe “extremes.” Cognitive False Equivalence: Establishes symmetry between left and right regardless of historical asymmetry in power, violence, or systemic entrenchment. This symmetry encourages the illusion of balance where structural inequality remains. Controlled Opposition: Absorbs political resistance into legible categories that the system has already immunized against. By permitting debate only between "acceptable" sides of the spectrum, it constrains opposition into predictable, ineffectual loops. Ideological Compartmentalization: Prevents synthesis of cross-axis or off-spectrum worldviews (e.g., spiritual leftism, post-capitalist traditionalism, decentralized communitarianism) by declaring them incoherent or invisible. Map-as-Reality Substitution: Through repetition and institutional embedding, LeftRightism replaces the messy, evolving reality of political life with a static cartographic abstraction, inducing conceptual dependency on the spectrum itself.
As Meta-Weapon: Political LeftRightism operates as an epistemic instrument of enclosure, a framework-level tool of hegemony rather than a position within debate. It disguises its own structural function beneath the appearance of neutrality and exhaustiveness. By scripting political meaning into a legible diagram, it enables elites to:
Predict, manage, and diffuse unrest; Legitimize centrism as “reasonable” and extremes as dangerous; Fragment class solidarity into partisan identities; Avoid exposure of vertical dynamics (top vs. bottom, ruler vs. ruled) by focusing attention horizontally.
Distinction: Unlike left- or right-wing ideologies, which offer substantive (if partial) theories of value or structure, LeftRightism is not an ideology per se but a cartographic control mechanism—an ideological exoskeleton that shapes and constrains all ideologies that operate within it. Its power lies not in its content, but in its pre-conscious adoption as the default schema of political orientation.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
If partisan identities are different enough that they don’t ally then that means their differences are too great.
klu9@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
5in1k@lemm.ee 10 months ago
God the assassination scene, so accurate.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
[deleted]UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Don’t like what you see on lemmy? That’s your fault. Use the tools given to you to block what you dont want to see.
Expecting others to change their posting habits so you dont have to lift a finger to curate your feed is ridiculous.
You can start practicing blocking people on me. Just click those 3 vertical dots and click block user.
Thanks, appreciate it.
andybytes@programming.dev 10 months ago
When I go hiking… I am going through certain mental forms of anguish as well as worrying about my water, the heat of the sun, and the fear of dying alone. of like a heart attack. because sometimes I really push myself. On this journey every once in a while I see a comrade and they’re either moving past me at a higher rate or moving away because they’ve already reached their goal. Yet at the end of the day, it is just the time in which it takes me to get to my destination. But yet eventually we all reach the end of the trail. We observed different things and we value different things. We should talk about that.