Look what they did to my boi.
We gonna fight
Submitted 10 months ago by Iheartcheese@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The right opposes free thought and favors conformity to support the privileged few.
The left favors free thought and opposes conformity, because that would impede social progress.
Yeah, I wonder why one of thsoe groups is likely to have arguments.
bier@feddit.nl 10 months ago
It’s a different version of the tolerance paradox
The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance. (Source Wikipedia)
UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The problem is not public arguments, but groups rejectimg other groups for ideological reasons. I personally know people who are like “you can be a communist and you can be wrong”.
The reality is that there are left groups, especially far-left groups, who will already dismiss your opinion on everything for not categorically rejecting a social markets economy. Doesn’t matter if you agree in all other points.
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
A fundamental disagreement on a foundational principle is going to be a hurdle, indeed.
HakunaHafada@lemm.ee 10 months ago
That reminds me of a scene from Jean-Luc Godard’s La Chinoise, where some members of a Maoist group call others “conformists” or something to that effect because they hold different views on the finer details of communism/socialism.
CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not necessarily. Some leftists demand conformity in beliefs. “If you don’t believe XYZ, you’re a shill/neoliberal/fascist etc.”
I feel like favoring free thought and opposing conformity leads to arguments, but demanding conformity leads to enemies (like this meme).
trololo@lemmings.world 10 months ago
If the believe is that we should send more bombs, maybe it’s not about comformity but more about your own morality
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 months ago
Some of the most authoritarian people I come into contact with on any kind of regular basis are “leftists” on Lemmy.
The ones in real life are not like that. I feel like Reddit’s moderation model really encourages it, and some of them started really taking it to heart when they came to Lemmy which copied that same model.
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 10 months ago
I don’t hate most leftists (or even non-leftists for that matter). I hate the kind that hate other leftists. The lemmy.ml tankies always complain that people who disagree with them are splitting the left, when they’re the ones calling everybody who vaguely disagrees with them a liberal. Not purely an ML thing though, there’s plenty of this kind of person in all camps.
trololo@lemmings.world 10 months ago
People who disagree with them about sending more bombs
MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
But after they called me a liberal for supporting Ukraine, they said they respect anarchists. They must be our friends! /s
Zenith@lemm.ee 10 months ago
I think lacking self awareness is a requirement to be a tankie
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I would like more unity with people who share alignment with me. Except for anyone who has a slightly different opinion than me on certain issues, screw those people.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 months ago
I seriously wish leftist unity was more of a thing. And no, liberals, I’m not talking about you.
pebbles@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Is this oneof those /s moments or a /r/wooosh moment?
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 months ago
Liberals are only considered “the left” in the USA. I am not in the USA.
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 months ago
My money’s on wooosh but it could be either one tbh.
breakingcups@lemmy.world 10 months ago
PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 10 months ago
Kek
floo@retrolemmy.com 10 months ago
I fucking hate this dynamic
Sibshops@lemm.ee 10 months ago
One thing the right is good at doing is falling in line, no matter that the agenda being pushed.
comfy@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Heh, don’t let that fool you, they still infight like crazy despite that. Examples include the hilarious collapse of the NJP, the assassination of Rockwell (leader of the American Nazi Party) and labeling every existing neo-Nazi group “feds” because they’re inevitably embarrassing and scandal-filled.
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Honestly I’m fairly certain they infight even harder than the left does. They just wouldn’t self-critically admit to it like we would. Cause they don’t self-crit.
Objection@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
The right has their fair share of infighting. They may all want heirarchy, but they disagree on who should be on top. They can all agree on scapegoating an outgroup, but disagree on which people fall into that outgroup. Like, the ultimate endgame of fascism is for the last fascist to kill the second to last fascist for not being white enough.
They appear to be united because most of us don’t go into their spaces and lurk, because, I mean, ew. If a Trump supporter came to Lemmy, they’d find people quite united against them, and if one of us went on Truth Social, we’d find them quite united against us, but that doesn’t mean they actually get along internally.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Yeah the flaws of leftists is understanding what they are voting for and not operating purely on loyalty.
Soulg@ani.social 10 months ago
When the system is broken, that is indeed a flaw
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
This seems like sarcasm, which is valid, but what you said is also absolutely true. The primary virtue of the left is also its biggest weakness when it comes to implementation.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Gotta maintain that rigid tribal culture so it supports whoever steals the leadership role!
Montagge@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
That’s mostly due to the rights belief in hierarchy. It doesn’t matter if the person above you has different views than you if you believe their right simply because they’re higher up the pecking order.
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 months ago
One thing I’ve always wondered, who/what decides their hierarchy?
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 10 months ago
I made this for a comment (about small-data images, jpegs) days ago:
justcallmelarry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
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UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
You can’t tell me how to anarchy bro
catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Futurama is just a slightly different Simpsons!
We are enemies now
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I was going to comment that OPs meme sums up db0 really well, but this one does that even better.