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The US is Collapsing Like the USSR – So What Comes Next

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨return2ozma@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨aboringdystopia@lemmy.world⁩

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  • puffytacos@sh.itjust.works [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    some form of socialism!!! well after we break out the guillotines

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  • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I sure hope so and hope its takes Israel, and a number of Arab governments, down with it. As someone who used to believe in the myth I am bitter and disgusted by what the US really is and always has been.

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  • IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ever read Walkaway by Cory Doctorow? I hope it’s like that.

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    • Quadhammer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Set in our near-future, it is a story of walking away from “non-work”, and surveillance and control by a brutal, immensely rich oligarchical elite; love and romance; a post-scarcity gift economy; revolution and eventual war; and a means of finally ending death

      What an intersting premise. Hope that isnt spoiling too much I think ill have to find a copy through a nonzon source

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      • aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        His books are all released under a creative commons license and you can find them for free at his website, craphound.com

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  • bonnashejve@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What comes the next? In Europe will be 2 unions: Eastern European and EU (Western European).

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    • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      wouldnt it make more sense if russia split into 2 instead?

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      • bonnashejve@europe.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I may be wrong, but this is what the prophecy of Revelation says. About the 10 horns and the beast, as well as Ezekiel’s prophecy about the unification of the kingdoms of Judah and Israel under one king. It should be understood that the EU is a colonial country and a descendant of the Holy Roman Empire, and later the Habsburg Empire. Before the Byzantine conquest, Eastern Europe was one country (from the Danube to the Don and the Caspian Sea, and from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea). And now this unification is happening before our eyes. This is an incredible event.

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      • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Split into a hundred pieces. It’s long been a country with tons of internal divisions who hate whomever happens to be ruling in Moscow.

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  • yesman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I couldn’t get very far through this briar-patch of buzz-words. But the collapse of the Soviet Union was brought about by material economic conditions, not by jumping up and down on their own dicks the way America is handling it.

    I suspect the apt model for America’s future is the British Empire.

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    • gabbath@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They are kinda doing a version of shock therapy on themselves though. (On their own dick.)

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      • Quadhammer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hey buddy we shock our own dicks here and we like it thay wa-- OW

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    • TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      jumping up and down on their own dicks

      Bravo sir.

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    • Dasus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      material economic conditions, not by jumping up and down on their own dicks the way America is handling it.

      Except the US is about to suffer those material economic conditions because they’re jumping on their own dicks.

      “Revenge” I believe is the correct word

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Recession, have you all not been paying attention?

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  • MissJinx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    When you look down at others instead of helping lift other up nobodt cares when you impode. I’m VERY sad for the regular non crazy american, you guys are the real victims.

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    • PanArab@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, the real victims are the children who were killed in a hospital or school bombing by the US. If the US is terminally weakened it may be less capable of bombing schools and hospitals halfway across the world.

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    • Montagge@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We’ve hsd a long time to fix things, but we chose to be “civil” instead.

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      • Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Only cuz they rigged the game against us

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      • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The Neoliberals obsessed with civility are working for the same people the Republicans do.

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  • chuck@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oooh what ballet/music will be played nationally when the us collapses?

    It was swan lake for the USSR right?

    I’m kinda hoping it’s green day’s American Idiot but that may be a bit on the nose

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    • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      An Weird Al parody called “America, Fuck No!”

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    • M0oP0o@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It will be something tone deaf yet in retrospect poetic. Maybe something like this?

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    • bitjunkie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There is nothing on-the-nose enough that it won’t be lost on at least 40% of us.

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    • blackstampede@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I vote “End of the Empire I-III” by Arcade Fire.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Trump is a huge fan of Cats, so maybe they’ll play that?

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      • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I could see him doing that, but I think it would go more like this… youtu.be/saY10AWXLIY?start=34

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    • Odo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      According to Ted Turner, it’s “Nearer, My God, to Thee”.

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    • PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’ll more likely be a Kid Rock or Ted Nugent concert. Or simply five hours of topless Putin riding on a horse.

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  • boreengreen@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What happened to the super rich people from USSR when it collapsed?

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    • raltoid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There weren’t really any super rich people in the USSR. There were people with a lot of influence and power, who had nicer houses, better food, clothes, etc. but they didn’t have a tons of money stashed away. You have to remember that Stalin viewed capitalism as the root of all evil and would kill rich people.

      And many of those influential people used that power after the fall to become super rich by snapping up former state assets. Which is seemingly part of their current goal in the US: Isolate the country and destroy government assets to privatize them. Literally trying to recreate the situation that created the 90s Russian oligarchs.

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      • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ah fuck. It’s gonna be religious cults that do all that. The LDS and Scientologists already have lots of properties and oceans of assets to leverage for it, as well as the only sense of community most Americans ever experience.

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      • anachronist@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Highly influential people who where loyal to Gorbachev: Purged and often imprisoned after the coup attempt.

        Highly influential people who were loyal to Yeltsin: Oligarchs.

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    • luckystarr@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They literally bought the country from everybody else for scraps.

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    • Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Probably took extended vacations to Montenegro or similar.

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      • altphoto@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Permanent vacations 6ft under.

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  • MyOpinion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What comes next is Trump will go nuts and start walking around naked and MAGAts will celebrating by doing the same.

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    • einlander@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A 21st century retelling of “The emperors new clothes”, where the emperor is also an influencer and sends people who warns about his nakedness to a dungeon in another kingdom.

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  • Punchshark@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who gives a fuck. Let them sink

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    • Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s regular people like you that will get most of the hit. Rich fucks will be fine.

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      • Punchshark@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not murican

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    • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’d have the mother of all refugee crises on the border. I feel the sentiment though.

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      • ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You assume that Americans are capable of reaching the border in the first place. No doubt they’ll starve to death while cursing their enemy political party first.

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    • verdantbanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      because like it or not our boat is your boat too

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      • Punchshark@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        We’ll build a wall and make you guys pay for it!

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      • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Not technically. If Trump succeeds in turning the US into Russia, most countries would be fine, especially if they or their close allies were nuclear armed.

        US citizens would become effectively slaves though.

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  • return2ozma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Xaphanos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Those who do not learn to love one another will die.

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    • verdantbanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What’s that from?

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