How so? Masked men grabbed Rumeysa Ozturk off the street, caught on camera and even questioned by passers by. I haven’t seen their identites released, and I don’t see how it will happen unless the federal government wants it to happen.
N the digital age, it's going to be harder for ICE agents to hide their identities than it was for Nazis trying to evade justice post WW2.
Submitted 1 day ago by MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re speaking of the now.
I’m speaking about after this regime falls, and it’s time to to account for the crimes against humanity.
ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf 1 day ago
That’s so bold of you to assume they’re making the high school bullies do their own paperwork.
We couldn’t even get them to fill out a single page card for the national crime database.
Kirp123@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They can just scrub everything before they lose power. Remind me what happened with the phones of the Secret Service when they were investigating Trump?
They are using Signal as we’ve seen with Leaky Pete. Signal deletes all the info automatically after some time. Since it’s an end to end encrypted messaging app nobody can recover those messages. Not even Signal themselves. Who’s to say they aren’t using in other instances as well.
And finally, Trump can pardon the lot of them and they will never see justice.
usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Weren’t the Nazis meticulous about their records? The new crop know better than to leave a paper trail
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Then they’ll still need border guards, soldiers, police, judges. The “good German soldier” myth was created because if every Nazi were to be prosecuted, the nation would be paralysed.
TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 day ago
At the same time though, now that things like that are already out in the open it’s going to be a lot harder. I’ve already seen videos of people yelling at cops that are harassing and questioning alleged immigrants.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 15 hours ago
I don’t think there’s gonna be a Nuremberg trials this time around
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
The trials will be home brewed.
Americans don’t like being told what to do by foreigners.
This time around though, there will be no appeasement that allows for a Southern Strategy again.
hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
We need a wiki where regular people can document and store evidence on the nazis, fascists and enablers currently destroying America. Not just ICE, but everyone. A place where sleuths can unmask and put a name on the worst of them. Where hackers can upload ICE payroll or employee databases. Perhaps even put together an interactive map showing where these people live so their neighbors can be safe.
Once the bastards see their names in print with proof of their crimes out in public perhaps they’ll realize how short their future is. Otherwise it’ll come in handy for the trials.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Be the change you want to see.
Start documenting.
BoulevardBlvd@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Something like that would have to be ultimately physically hosted by someone outside the US to prevent it from being shut down so… Anyone got any foreign friends u/Hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0 can talk to?
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Can we do it playing card style like they did with the 9/11 terrorists and pick them off one by one for funsies?
EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Isn’t this essentially WikiLeaks?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Consider hosting it over Tor
cybersin@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Yes, make it digital and public so it can be easily hacked, infiltrated, seized, and deleted.
Brilliant.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
You can evade justice if your Reich lasts long enough.
It’s sad when old corrupt criminals just outlive any repercussions, and the systems that shields them becomes the norm.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Let’s see how long this one lasts against one of the most well armed civilian populations in history, who have been fed a steady diet of the Right to Bear Arms, and Stand Your Ground.
The regime will be fucked the first time their ICE agents try to scoop a Don’t Tread on Me type in the middle of the night, and get a bullet salad for their troubles.
By now, even the most fervent supporters can see that if one of them gets scooped by mistake, there is zero mechanism to correct it, and they’re as good as dead.
Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 13 hours ago
More violence is coming to USA, that’s seems a given, but daily shootouts just means more resources to the “militia” the gov uses/chooses to use. And that can get normalised. And the percentage of gun-owners killed vs ICE agents killed acceptable (basically nobody can reasonably fight off an armed force on their own, it’s logistics, not a shonen match). Good TV news tho.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 day ago
These are going to be an easy Nuremberg Trials once we get past this
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Are you saying that USA will find itself in Germany again?
thesohoriots@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How is the WiFi in Argentina these days
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 day ago
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stoly@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They did it during Black Lives Matter. Would cover their faces, remove their badges, and use rental cars to pull people off the street and disappear them. It’s happening now with ICE.
MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 day ago
To be clear:
ICE agents have home addresses. They have lives away from work. People in their lives, from family members to acquaintances, who have direct knowledge of them being ICE agents.
Start collecting identifying information, that will help apprehend them after this regime falls.
When this regime falls; they won’t permit being voted out of office.