I got a Samsung TV a couple of years ago. I use it with a Roku. It’s not on my network. I’ll keep it until it stops working because I think eventually TVs will refuse to work without an Internet connection.
LG TVs’ integrated ads get more personal with tech that analyzes viewer emotions
Submitted 11 months ago by CatZoomies@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 11 months ago
DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So I’ll buy a monitor.
CalipherJones@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Verification can
slinkyjelly@lemm.ee 11 months ago
but why
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sad people buy more to try to make themselves happy. Retail therapy.
People who serve ads have a vested interest in knowing when you’re unhappy and what makes you unhappy, so they can capitalise on it.
Blinsane@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I just use a pi-hole to block my LG TV from connecting to any services I have not approved. So it can connect to YouTube but not lg.trackingservices.brainscanner.com. Never seen an ad on my TV.
valkyre09@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I just don’t connect the snoopy bastard to my network 😂
nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
No.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
This tech has been in TVs easily for the past ten years.
Did you know this stuff is in most modern cars, too? Fuck. EVERYTHING listens to you now.
I hate to use this phrase, but, back in my day, we used to call this SPYWARE and it was treated as a virus - it was highly unacceptable by people.
Taleya@aussie.zone 11 months ago
This is still your day
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Nope.
Don’t like that.
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 11 months ago
Never connect your tv to WiFi
Don’t buy connected anything
Just buy things that do the thing you want.
No consumer ever asked for a smart tv
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Smart TVs are tools of the demiurge
SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 11 months ago
For the lower tech people, smart TVs are just OkAy. They allow an end user to use Netflix etc. It’s the fucking cameras mics and sensors illls in my Tv that’s fucked up
Corngood@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
If it makes a sound you don’t recognise, use the gun.
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 11 months ago
The printer lol
HappinessPill@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Simple solution I use: Fuck television sets, get a computer monitor and basic speakers instead. A display should do only one thing and do it well.
Taleya@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Look at commercial sets
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That would certainly be ideal, although there’s great difficulty in finding 50"+ monitors, and they cost a huge amount more
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
I guess that would beg the question, how much is it worth to you pay extra to not have additional spyware in your home? Or as others have said in this thread, there is at least one brand of television that still sells dumb tvs.
deathbird@mander.xyz 11 months ago
You know back in the day they were like easily half a dozen custom Android ROMs for any given phone. I’m pretty sure that there’s still a diversity of ROMs available.
Why is this not the case with televisions?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
TVs generally don’t come with unlocked bootloaders. That shit is locked down big time.
Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 11 months ago
Because there’s no easy way to install it. TVs don’t usually have a data transfer usb-c port.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 11 months ago
If you want a serious mind fuck read “stand On Zanzibar” a science fiction novel from 1969.
One of the things that the writer predicted was Mr. & Mrs. Everywhere, a gimmick where your TV would insert your family into advertisements.
The novel is full of other, equally accurate predictions…
FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I still use a dumb TV, and I will for as long as possible. I’ll never buy a new TV ever again. only used from Facebook. most stuff I only watch on my computer anyways.
demunted@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I make my smart TVs dumb. No internet connectivity.
Aceofspades@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
That is my solution as well for now. I bet TVs will start to come with cellular chips soon though.
Does anyone make a living room sized Faraday cage?
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
HOW EXCITING…
said no one ever.
kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I wish there was a TV with absolutely no built in smart features and a slot in the back for a compute module (like a RP CM5).
decended_being@midwest.social 11 months ago
They call them projectors. They’re just way too expensive to be reasonable replacements for the average user.
Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I got an Optoma projector for the bedroom that I love. It’s about $1000 USD. Is that on the high end? I guess. I’d call it medium. But I know many people that spend that much and more on their TV. Works pretty well even in day/with the light on, obviously far better with the room darkened, and even has a gaming optimised mode.
smeenz@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
Oh no, “smart projectors” are definitely a thing.
FireWire400@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Someone once said on here that NEC made TVs like that but I couldn’t find anything
legopika@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Not sure where to find them, but I did see this video awhile ago about them
Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Or just a few Display Ports and HDMI
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 months ago
NOPE
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
This is why you block the camera with a little diorama that shows a single white male viewer…frantically masturbating.
merdaverse@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wait, TVs have cameras now? That sounds super creepy
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
As if someone published a book featuring this very technology…in 1949.
It was noted with memes when the ToS of one such television suggested not having private conversations in front of or otherwise near the TV screen.
pipes@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
And an array of microphones. But it’s not like they have a clear view of their surroundings. Wait
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Close. This is why I mastubate frantically infront of the cameras. It satifies they kink for surveilance and my kink in exhibitionism.
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It’s really an ecosystem, if you think about it
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Good idea, though, this isn’t actually about cameras watching you as the title looks like.
slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Yep, this is just a standard market segmentation.
thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ll never connect a TV to the internet again.
smeenz@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
That’s okay, it will just autoconnect to any other LG device in bluetooth range, which has a working internet connection. Like, the neighbour’s TV on the other side of your wall.
thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sheesh…
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This is actually about analysing the shows you watch, so it’s invasive, but not insidious in the way, say, the screenshots of hdmi content is.
TwistyLex@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
I see a lot of concern in this thread that future TVs would just peer-to-peer or cellular connect to do their dastardly functions. Wouldn’t this be preventable by putting a fine wire mesh around the box on the rear of the panel? Sure, the signal could still go out through the panel, but that’s bound to incur a lot of interference from the panel itself, right?
HelloHotel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a Kurig coffee maker (too little respect to spellcheck their name). It puts oit a BLE beacon that I can receve a mile away. G-force was right!
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 11 months ago
it’s looking for other keurigs to mate with, like a barnacle
Takumidesh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hopefully the TVs don’t won’t require that connection to operate.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 11 months ago
Chances are they’ll have some antenna line going to the edge of the TV. The box on the back of the TV already has a bunch of shielding over it inside. If you were to go to the trouble of opening the TV to find it, you may as well disconnect the antenna and ground it so there’s no chance of a signal.
Grappling7155@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
The simplest solution is just don’t buy these TVs
Integrate777@discuss.online 11 months ago
At this point, I’m wondering if I should set up a shell company of some kind, just to buy commercial digital signage TVs.
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That’s increasingly difficult to do.
deepfuckingdumb@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have a TCL Roku TV and holy shit it was engineered to deliver ads. If it is not connected to the network, the power LED blinks and is very annoying. The power LED is right next to the IR receiver and can’t just be taped over. Assigning a manual IP and DNS is blocked so traffic can’t be routed through a pihole. I use the Jellyfin app on the TV so it needs local network access. At this point the damn thing needs to have traffic managed at a network level firewall. I don’t have the hardware for the firewall at the moment but now that Roku has pop up ads for simply moving around the app menu (yes really), I may need to get on that.
TipRing@lemmy.world 11 months ago
if your router is able to you can set up ACLs to allow the TV access to your network but not the internet.
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Open up the tv, de soldier the led.
Ashiette@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If you set up your pihole as the DHCP it works. It’s weird that you can’t change the static IP…
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 11 months ago
but now that Roku has pop up ads for simply moving around the app menu
Huh? I have 3 Roku Ultras, a Roku Stick, and a Roku TV and none of them do that. Have you gone into the Roku settings menu recently and turned off all the ad stuff?
01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Nah, they’re doing A/B testing currently for their next several waves of ads. I think (but don’t quote me on this) I read that in the new EULA.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Ahw fuck, wasn’t LG like the last reasonable tv brand out there?
What should invuy if i want a new good 4K TV?
r_deckard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Panasonic, or some of the European brands are good. Or you buy the largest 4K computer monitor that can afford.
milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 11 months ago
A book.
iMastari@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sceptre TV
xthexder@l.sw0.com 11 months ago
I’ve seen this linked before, and unfortunately the specs are very mediocre on their TVs. I don’t know how they can claim a TV is HDR when it has a meh contrast ratio, no dimming zones, and can’t even do 100% of the sRGB color space.
I don’t know how much of the price of other TVs are subsidized by ads, but these Sceptre TVs are pretty bad value when looking at panel specs alone.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
umm guys this isn’t a news article, it’s a Black Mirror episode
FleetingTit@feddit.org 11 months ago
For now, most of the ad bullshit can be turned off. Though it turned back on after the latest software update and forced me to spend another 10 minutes digging through the horrendous settings menu.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Continue to never buy LG products again?
Gotcha. The advertising works, i guess…maybe not how they wanted to, though lol
RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
So what im hearing is never buy an LG TV. Got it.
yarr@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Great, now they are going to know how aroused I am when watching “Golden Girls” reruns.
eodur@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I was describing this to my partner and she thought i said “LGBT”. Yes. The LGBTQ community created this technology and weaponized it. Next on Fox News.
dryfter@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Jokes on them, I have facial paralysis!
FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
I still have and will continue to purchase TVs for as long as I can. Not smartTVs.
As a side note, I went to Best Buy and asked them about non-smartTVs. They literally said they had 2 models. A small, tiny TV and a larger TV which they did not have a model on the floor. They would have to bring it out or I would have to go the back.