Bluesky has started honoring takedown requests from Turkish government

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨boramalper@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

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Email from Bluesky in the screenshot linked:

Hi there,

We are writing to inform you that we have received a formal request from a legal authority in Turkey regarding the removal of your account associated with the following handle (@carekavga.bsky.social) on Bluesky.

The legal authority has claimed that this content violates local laws in Turkey. As a result, we are required to review the request in accordance with local regulations and Bluesky’s policies.

Following a thorough review, we have determined that the content in question violates local laws in Turkey, as outlined in the legal request. In compliance with these legal provisions, we have restricted access to your account for users.

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toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
pardon my ignorance, but how is a de-centralized and de-federated online community bound to such annoyances?

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- ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  They’re still a corporate entity, and they still want access to markets to make money.
  
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  - toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    i think i’m conflating lemmy with bluesky. can’t anyone just host an instance? is it open-source? sorry, i should probably just look into this myself.
    
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- egerlach@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  For those who don’t know, Bluesky isn’t really federated. The only way to host a non-Bluesky instance required 1TB of storage in July 2024, and 5 TB of storage in Nov 2024. Could be way more than that now.
  
  You basically have to be a company to federate into the ATProto (Bluesky) ecosystem. You can’t just “stand up an instance”.
  
  Lots of detail: dustycloud.org/…/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
  
  (I know you’ve already realized that you were conflating Mastodon with Bluesky, I’m putting this here for others who come along so they can get the facts).
  
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  - meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Also DMs always go through Bluesky themselves.
    
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  - WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    That’s not an outlandish amount of storage. You can get more than that for $200.
    
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  - aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    That’s only if you want to maintain a full archive. You don’t actually have to store a full archive to run a relay
    
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  - Anivia@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    5TB requires you to be a company??? My personal NAS already has 92TB
    
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  - SrEstegosaurio@mstdn.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    @egerlach @toy_boat_toy_boat Yeah, ATProto is a joke and it is surprising how many computer-toucher folks have fallen for it.
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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Assuming you are serious:
  
  Bluesky is … arguably ‘federated’, but it is centralized, not decentralized.
  
  gigazine.net/…/20241128-bluesky-decentralization
  
  Their model (AT Protocol) relies on a central, authoritative … ‘Relay’, that all ‘federated’ users and posts on federated PDS (personal data servers) must go through, to actually reach the ‘AppView’, ie, what people can actually see.
  
  So, this is not a many to many, tangled spider web of connections, the way lemmy other parts of the actual fediverse are.
  
  It is a top down hierarchy, a pyramid.
  
  And Bluesky runs the Relay, the chokepoint.
  
  If Bluesky cuts off the PDS your account is on, everyone on it is now gone.
  
  The actual fediverse, Mastadon, Lemmy, etc, runs on ActivityPub.
  
  In that model… every instance is essentially self contained, and every instance that is federated communicates with every other instance that is federated.
  
  Each instance can decide what other instances they want to federate with… and users on each instance can personally block other users, communities, or entire instances if they choose to, but that only effects them
  
  That is what you call decentralized, approaching, or also having elements of being ‘distributed’.
  
  To bring up an example without getting into the drama that led to it:
  
  The ‘Tankie Triad’ of ml, lemmygrad and hexbear have had a number of other instances defederate from them.
  
  But, there are also a good number of instances that have not done so.
  
  So that means if your account is on hexbear… you can’t see or post on an instamce that has blocked your instance.
  
  But, if you (a hexbear…ian?), post on a neutral instance… users on that neutral instance will see the post.
  
  But but, if a user from an instance that has defederated from hexbear goes to to the neutral instance… they will not see the hexbearian’s post.
  
  This sounds complicated, and it is, but … thats the whole point of a decentralized system. It is more complex in the abstract… but the entire system ends up being more robust, more adaptable, more customizable… without a central authority in direct control of the entire system.
  
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  - toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    i was asking in good faith, and i can’t thank you enough for providing such a thorough and effective answer.
    
    it almost sounds like bluesky is just a baby twitter in the making, and it’ll probably end up the same way. i’m really digging the actual fediverse thing, mainly because it seems to be one of the only places that money and vc bs hasn’t been able to touch.
    
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  - Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    So the decentralized version makes sense to me. The blue sky model you describe sounds like just farming out the server load. What am I missing?
    
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  - unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Idk if you made those technical diagrams yourself but I genuinely enjoyed them.
    
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  - mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    This belongs in Best Of Lemmy or something.
    
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  - LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    This is anarchist propaganda, by the way. Hexbear users (also known as pig poopers to those of us inside the community) know that centralised authority is the only way to run things fairly. Look at what the anarchist Fediverse has done to our movement - dozens of large instances have defederated us pig poopers and our friends in the rest of the Only True Socialist Triad. It’s a disgrace. Our admins are currently in the process of setting up a BlueSky relay on pigpoop.balls
    
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  - troybot@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    It is a top down hierarchy, a pyramid.
    
    It’s not a pyramid, it’s a reverse funnel system.
    
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  - merdaverse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    That Relay chokepoint is a serious architecture flaw, even for the central company running it (Bluesky). They might fix it in the future, but I doubt it’s high priority for them.
    
    In July 2024, running a Relay on ATProto already required 1 terabyte of storage. But more alarmingly, just a four months later in November 2024, running a relay now requires approximately 5 terabytes of storage dustycloud.org/…/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
    
    The cost of running a full-network, fully archiving relay has increased over time. After recent growth, our out-of-box relay implementation (bigsky) requires on the order of 16 TBytes of fast NVMe disk, and that will grow proportional to content in the network. We have plans and paths forward to reducing costs (including Jetstream and other tooling). whtwnd.com/bnewbold.net/3lbvbtqrg5t2t
    
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  - oakward@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    What is the advantage of Bluesky’s model over Xitter? Are they just outsourcing servers while still holding censorship and manipulation power?
    
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- merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  You’re right that Bluesky isn’t federated, but it most definitely is centralized.
  
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- heavyboots@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  The answer it’s, they’re neither thing right now. And the claim has been made that in order to run your own instance that forwarded all traffic generated by the primary instance, you would need equivalent hardware to what BlueSky currently has. Vs Mastdon, which is…
  
  not commercially owned
  
  has a proven federation capability
  
  Running a pretty large number of instances right now
  
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  - toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    interesting! so i’m probably conflating my expectations for bluesky with lemmy, when all the while i should actually be on mastadon. i was starting to wonder if bluesky was just a new us dem party project :\
    
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- Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  This affects the view of posts via the bluesky servers, but not via mirrors or other servers
  
  And the use of content addressing means you can be sure it hasn’t been modified
  
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- paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Wouldn’t your “home” server in an activity pub network always be subject to such requests?
  
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  - BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    The difference is that if your home server is outside of Turkey then you can tell them to kick rocks. Bluesky probably complies because they don’t want to be blocked from Turkey. In a truly decentralized system like activitypub, only the server hosting the account / content in question risks being blocked, which means almost nothing the closer you get to a single account instance. Meanwhile every other server not in Turkey would not notice a difference.
    
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ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Funny as I got downvoted to oblivion for saying Bluesky was not really decentralized.

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- brot@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  A decentralized service like Mastodon will have the same issues when governments are knocking on the door. The turkish government totally can force all those small turkish instance admins to defederate instances who are not reacting to legal threats. And all those small admins don’t have the resources to fight a lengthy legal battle against their own government
  
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  - buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    The flip side of that is that instances large and small outside of the influence of the government can do as they please and people can use other means, like VPNs, to access them.
    
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  - orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    That’s the entire point, right? Just use an instance that’s in a country that’s not closely allied with Turkey. Everyone knows that, right? Right?
    
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  - tauren@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    But they can use some other instance. With centralized platforms the issue is that they want to do business everywhere. Russia threatened to arrest Google employees in Moscow, for instance. Even without such threats, they want to have access to local markets. That isn’t a concern for some instance in Ireland that is supported by donations.
    
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  - theblips@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Hard agree. Decentralization itself doesn’t really work against censorship, you need an additional layer of privacy, or, more ideally, anonymity. Is there a way of running a lemmy instance over Tor?
    
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  - ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    The tech needs to be decentralized like Bitcoin. Bitcoin is untouchable as it is just so decentralized. You can go after nodes and miners, but you would have to go after all of them to take down any of its content. It is very resilient and social media could go the same way but people have to want it first.
    
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  - _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Sure, maybe if that instance is hosted in that specific country. But an instance outside of it doesn’t have to do shit. What is Turkey gonna do if they don’t like something I post? Come arrest me? Fucking let 'em try.
    
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  - Sizing2673@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Not the same problem but it would still be an issue
    
    But it would give consumers control and transparency
    
    Right now we have none. They see you, they realize they don’t like you and they make the algorithm disappear everything you say
    
    That is a problem. And I agree with others, it needs to be decentralized, that is step 1. The other things cannot even be attempted until then
    
    Corporate driven communication will just not work. They are in bed with the fascist Nazi regime
    
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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I sort of feel like that’s not really relevant. How would being decentralised make any difference, the government would just go after the server owners regardless of who they are. If the server owners didn’t honour the takedown requests turkey would just ban the server IP and no one would be able to access.
  
  Federation isn’t a solution to every problem
  
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  - florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    This is easily solved with the god damn onion address support which is in lemmys own documents.
    
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  - huppakee@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    But Turkey blocking acces to certain content is not the same as removing the content (which is what Bluesky does when they honour a request).
    
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  - ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    If it was truly decentralized it would be like Bitcoin that has not been brought down by any government or organization yet they sure have tried.
    
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- Natanael@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  The content is still accessible, just not via the official Bluesky servers from that region, with content addressing and signatures you can even be certain that mirror sites haven’t modified any content.
  
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  - Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Where are those alternative servers?
    
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  - ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    So, just like Twitter, then? When the official servers don’t show whatever the government tells them not to show?
    
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- Corgana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I know it sounds insane but I swear to god BlueSky has astroturfing accounts on Lemmy. Every conversation (including yours here) about BlueSky is met with countless Sealions either saying it “will be federated soon” or asking “Why does federation matter?”
  
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  - ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Centralization is going to do what centralization does best.
    
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- yuki2501@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I hope those downvotes were not from here.
  
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- arin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  The only thing i did was follow anime artists(same popular ones i follow on twitter that started switching to bsky)and block weird accounts that had furry/beastalility(idk why they kept showing up) coz i selected the art tag as interest . but after a few weeks of banning furry shit my account got banned… No reason why . but maybe an admin/staff saw i blocked them and retaliated ? This was last year when bsky was new. Fuck it. At least mastodon is still used
  
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shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
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- interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  How could they follow the pied piper rasputin a SECOND TIME??? There’s a saying in Texas, maybe it’s in Tennessee, fool me once shame, shame on you, fool me twice eh… Can’t get fooled again!
  
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VampirePenguin@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Bluesky is a for-profit company that is capitalizing on the Xodus. They may be better for the time being, but the march for more and more profit will end the same as it always does. Enshittification. They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.

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- surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  It was an obvious op from the beginning. You could tell by the people they were trotting out to sell it. Lots of liberal pro-authority types.
  
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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  They are not the good guys, the fediverse is.
  
  I think you’re overselling the Fediverse here. The Fediverse also absolutely has censorship, it’s just by individual instance admins instead of a for-profit company. If large, influential instances shut down or defederate, a lot of content goes with it.
  
  Yeah, federated instances technically cache that data, but those communities are effectively dead, links are broken, etc. Users can jump to other services, sure, but the service isn’t the same.
  
  We’ve seen this here on Lemmy. Beehaw was a cool instance, but they defederated fairly early on. Lemmy.ml was super impactful, but their admins are super aggressive with moderation to the point that many avoid their communities. And so on.
  
  Whether “the Fediverse” is good depends on your instance and the mods and admins of the various communities you are part of. That kind of sucks.
  
  Maybe it sucks less than whatever major social media network you’re comparing to, but I hesitate to call it “good,” just different.
  
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  - 73ms@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Well it is fundamentally better because it does not only have a single party that makes all the calls thanks to the real decentralization. I wouldn’t call all of fediverse “the good guys” but I would call it “good”.
    
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    There’s always gonna be an admin of some kind unless we all run our own instances, but that ends up with everyone just in large echo chambers again, as they federate only with people they agree with, or to scream at people they don’t.
    
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- VerbFlow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I should’ve been on here instead. I legitimately thought that Anarchists, Communists, &c could make a difference being on there. Now I get people deliberately blocking accounts that aren’t even fascist, and being concerned with “bullying” instead of actually solving real problems. BSky has upper-class liberals talking about D&D, whining about how laws aren’t being followed correctly, cheerleading American imperialism, making unfunny jokes, and claiming that radical politics came from 4chan rather than legitimate political grieviances. All sorts of suburban slime. I really should’ve been elsewhere.
  
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- citizensongbird@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  But but but… Bluesky pwomised they would join the fediverse someday! A super duper pinky pwomise!
  
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Quintus@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
God damn it. People on the Turkey subreddit were running a campaign to move from X to Bluesky because X was honoring the requests of the Turkish Government to take down footage of police brutality and shit.

I and many others have told people to NOT go to Bluesky because it was “owned” by Jack Dorsey and could get bad as Twitter did.

Of course, absolutely nobody listened. Some celebrities also even moved to Bluesky (including the comedian and actor Cem Yılmaz, one of the most known amongst the people. Basically the Jim Carrey of Turkey.) And know THIS happens. Bravo.

I remember seeing some telling others to use OperaGX because a Turkish PARODY ACCOUNT of the official X account posted a meme that supports the protests. I said it’s stupid to support OperaGX because of who is behind it and one of them had the balls to say “Bruh like a browser changes anything your info is everywhere”

So mind boggling.

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- drspod@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  People on the Turkey subreddit were running a campaign to move from X to Bluesky
  
  I see so much astroturfing for Bluesky. They have good PR people who know what buttons to push, clearly.
  
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- sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  My experience as a person who has a lot of experience working with computer is basically thus:
  
  When you solve a problem for someone, you are a magician.
  
  When you can’t, you are completely full of shit and know nothing about tech and your entire life is a lie.
  
  When you tell someone ‘hey I wouldn’t do that’, your experience and expertise means nothing if what you are suggesting would mildly inconvenience them for 10 minutes, or takes more than 30 seconds to explain why it is a bad idea.
  
  When you tell them ‘hey have you tried this?’ your experience and expertise also means nothing if you cannot do it for them and also make it so it never breaks again, and also they will keep doing the thing that makes it break even though you explained to them how to not do that thing that makes it break.
  
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- 73ms@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I wouldn’t be surprised if he held some share of it but Dorsey probably doesn’t have much to do with Bluesky anymore, at least in an official capacity. The more salient point is about not really trusting any single party that asserts centralized control over a platform.
  
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- IsaamoonKHGDT_6143@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Governments are more powerful than companies, if there is resistance it is because the government does not have all the power and if there is no resistance it is because the government has all the power
  
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index@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
And now you know why corporations and politicians don’t use mastodon

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cotlovan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Wow, all the bsky lovers are now facing the reality. None of the corpos have user’s interest in mind. They only care about numbers: number of active users’ data that they can sell to the highest bidder.

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- Aux@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Any service provider, private or corporate, must comply with the law. Otherwise the service provider will face the consequences.
  
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Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Fake Fediverse is fake.

Fuck Turkey and fuck however they want it spelt.

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- derin@lemmy.beru.co ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Re: “(…) fuck however they want it spelt.”
  
  As a Turkish person, I’m with you on this.
  
  If the Turkish government wants you to refer to Turkey as Türkiye, then they shouldn’t be allowed to call the US “Amerika Birleşik Devletleri”: they should be required to pronounce it United States of America.
  
  Let’s see how they like it then, lol. “Yunayıted Sıtets af Amerika”, hah.
  
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- samus12345@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  The bird was named after the country. So if they want to be called Türkiye, that means we’ll be having türkiye for Thanksgiving from now on.
  
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- pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  I don’t think bluesky was federated. Not in the sense that anybody can start making bluesky servers in their room
  
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Pirata@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Don’t replace X with Bluesky! Go to Mastodon and other Federalised platforms. That is the only way to escape corporate monopolization.

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- PumpUpTheJam@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  But I don’t want to sit alone in a room.
  
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- huppakee@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  No offense but I think your effort is wasted on the people (already) here.
  
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- SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  It costs money to run and admin servers though
  
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- Aux@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  If Fedi server owners will start getting legal requests from the Turkish government, they will start banning people too. Or will be forced to close their operations in Turkey.
  
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secretlyaddictedtolinux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I can’t believe it! Someone who chose to use a centralized platform instead of Nostr was banned?! It’s so shocking!

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Cocopanda@futurology.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
So. When ever I post my families genocide story as Armenians in The Ottoman empire. There’s always a Turk to call me a liar online. Then they get you banned from the sub because they have people injected into mod teams. Pretty disgusting experience. Also happened with Azerbaijani posters to. Interesting how deep they injected themselves in Reddit.

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aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3lmvrdmkdnc2d

Censorship requests from the Turkish government are only being applied in the official bluesky app. Third-party apps continue to show censored posts. Feels like that might be relevant

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quack@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Did anyone actually expect Bluesky to be different to any other corporate-run social media platform? What was the point of jumping from one to another?

Just more proof that FOSS and proper decentralisation are the only things that will save us.

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PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
What was the post

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meldrik@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
If only there was a decentralised alternative, that was more or less immune to this… LOL

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harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I’ve been on the fence about joining Bluesky but I think I am not going to bother.

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shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
But it’s a decentralized service! /s

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taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
The relevant question here is if you are in Turkey because if you aren’t this is a much bigger deal than if you are.

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HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Watching how quickly all these companies crumble, it really is astonishing the Obama and Clinton didn’t take on Fox News for all it’s bullshit.

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PieMePlenty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Because they are a company and a board of ethical leaders to ensure it doesn’t turn to shit is no guarantee it doesn’t turn to shit. BlueSky is something a corporate mindset person creates.

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cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
i don’t get why this is shocking; if you do business in a country you have to follow local laws.

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j4yt33@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
And so it begins

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MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
From the wording, it looks like they’re just going to georestrict their content to places that are not Turkey.

Far from a problem, unless of course, your primary following is from Turkey; or that’s where you live.

I don’t blame bluesky here, they operate internationally, and they have to obey the laws of the locations they operate in. Personally I’m wondering what kind of Internet posts are restricted in Turkey? Who has laws to say you can, or cannot say things on the Internet? Besides… I guess, China, and obviously illegal things like CP…

Were they posting CP?

IDK, I’ve never used bluesky. I barely used xitter, back when it was relevant, if I were to use anything as a replacement it would be Mastodon.

Anyways.

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Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
I believe there are laws in the EU that would be violated by many rightwing posts (such as glorifying nazis in Germany). The litmus test would be if a complaint about these violations would cause an account to be banned.

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Naevermix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
What’s the point of Bluesky if they’re just going to bow before authoritarianism?

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MuteDog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
This seems like a good place to put this meme I made a couple months ago Image

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TON618@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
For some reason people expect things from Bluesky but people forget Bluesky is basicly just new Twitter. There’s really no reason to expect “better” from this new platform.

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carrion0409@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
How much you wanna bet the trump regime will force them to start removing people too ?

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Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Is anyone surprised?

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Wimster@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Is Bluesky the next X ??? Kissing the ring of authoritarian leaders?

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