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Considering how often Google’s AI hallucinates some garbage for an answer this is going to be terrible
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Submitted 4 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
negativeone@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Embrace, extend, extinguish, but now it’s Google doing it to the World Wide Web.
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 months ago
…hmm that’s kind of shitty and it uses ten times more energy! Let’s go full enshitification!
absentbird@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I don’t get what they gain out of this, doesn’t it remove the sponsored results? Or will people pay to nudge AI weights to recommend their products?
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Example:
How do you make the best cookies diy?
…the new Nabisco Cookies can be crushed to a fine powder mixed…
What are other non-nabisco cookies I can cook?
…Nestle chocolate chip cookies of course!
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Can it be worse than the sanitised results they give you now?
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yes absolutely
blurcosp@leminal.space 4 months ago
Yup, this was all the motivation I needed to jump ship from Google, fuck those clowns.
Xanza@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I noticed today that UDM mode for Google is displaying sponsored results now, too…
moe90@feddit.nl 4 months ago
yeah udm14 getting pretty bad lately. That is why I moved to startpage which is same Google services without AI and sponsored contents
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 months ago
www.google.com/search?q=drp&udm=14 still works for me…
Xanza@lemm.ee 4 months ago
It’s never not worked, but they’re running sponsored links now. I’ve hit them 3 times today out of maybe 50 searches. But they’re there.
ZeroTerabytes@lemmy.cafe 4 months ago
Pondis@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Which is EXACTLY why I just moved to using Vivaldi browser and StartPage as a search engine. Fuck these guys.
zerofk@lemm.ee 4 months ago
You could also try ecosia. I’ve been using them for years, and since a few months Vivaldi has a deal with them too.
xia@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
Of all the sources of truth, why pick auto-complete?
LemurAppointments@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
This is exactly why I’m working so hard to eradicate the verb “to google” from my vocabulary. I switched to DuckDuckGo (which then started providing AI summaries, but allowed an easy opt-out).
rhpp@programming.dev 4 months ago
Even better, use the google verb to refer to searching anywhere other than Google and effectively genericide it.
FixedFun@lemmy.world 4 months ago
DuckDuckGo’et’ nah, it doesn’t work.
letsgo@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Do people still use google? I haven’t touched it for yonks now. Except GRIS, that still works well.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Not the search but I’m still stuck with the email. :/
ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Alphabet/Google needs to fire their CEO. He’s an obvious idiot, not good with employees, not good with investors, and not good at lobbying. That’s like 99% of a CEO’s job. Just get rid of him and Google’s stock price will probably jump 20%.
grumt@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
arcterus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
I looked into this a while back and came to the conclusion that the dev didn’t seem trustworthy. Also, just looking on the homepage, the image it showed me was a dildo with “4get” stuck on it using a sticky note and a modified manga panel about beating women. Not sure I’d want to use something like that in public.
grumt@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
yeah, the dev seems kinda like a shitposter ngl (although there is some funny pictures in the front page) Image
However, I configured it as my default search engine, so I never go to the front page
mke@programming.dev 4 months ago
Not sure what I expected. For the equally curious with no foresight:
definitely a dildo with 4get stuck on it using sticky note
cyd@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Google search results are so terrible that at this point it’s a mercy.
peregrin5@lemm.ee 4 months ago
I noticed Edge would only show me corporate/authority friendly results recently as well oddly cutting down the number of results I see to a very unnaturally short amount of results.
Deleting it and moving to DuckDuckGo which while the corporate friendly things were still at the top, it at least showed me some opposition results.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Guessing Edge by default sent you to Bing, no surprise the DDG results look similar, given that they use Bing under he hood. They shuffle rankings slightly, but it’s the same index.
hellerphant@lemmy.cafe 4 months ago
I’m so glad I switched to Kagi. The writing was on the wall once they started rolling out the AI suggestions wide.
Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
Is DuckDuckGo still the best alternative at this point, or has Bing been toiling away in the dark to improve itself?
vivi@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
DDG uses Bing under the hood for the main results, so it doesn’t really matter too much in terms of results.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
You can also use Ecosia, if your prefer a different shade of lipstick on your ~pig~ search results.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
In terms of result quality? In my opinion, based on my particular search habits:
Kagi > SearXNG > Brave > Startpage/Google > DDG/Ecosia/Bing
Everyone is going to have their own opinions on each of those companies, but from a results lens, that’s go what I find to be most/least effective.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
I didn’t expect this. You mean it doesn’t have ads? All I tend to get for hits on Google are paid search results anyway. Surely they’ll soon bring some ad links into these results.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Like all Google products, they will still make a halfhearted attempt to make it as useful as they can before absolutely destroying it with ads
knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
i haven’t used Google for search in years. duck duck go ftw
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Number on reason to at least distance oneself from the big G. They shove unwanted shit down your throat despite the loud protests
Delta_V@lemmy.world 4 months ago
this sounds like what Google wanted to be since its inception: ask a question, get an answer
somewhere along the journey, the reality of needing to make money drove the enshitification of search results: ask a question, get offers to sell you an answer
this seems like a step in a better direction
baggins@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
Right because when I search for factual information what I really want is an LLM to tell me “sorry Dave I can’t answer that question right now.” (See: any election related information. As in it doesn’t just kick you back to the web search results it just straight up refuses to give you the answer.)
Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 4 months ago
It baffles me how wholly some people are just accepting the complete erosion of the internet. I have lecturers at university, so theoretically educated people, who tell us point blank to plug any questions we have about weekly topics into ChatGPT. The respect I have for these teachers and their content is less than zero at this point.
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 4 months ago
No more google at all. Thanks for making it easy for me.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
So what happens to the situation of having to pay ad-word rent on your own brand name?
Do we still get that with AI search, or is Google going to give up their golden goose of ad revenue. I’m guessing the adwords feed into the background RAG that influences what the model says.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Alright should I switch to Lyca or HotBot?
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Microsoft doesn’t want to end up like Google. Fuck that company! One way you can tell is on outlook…which I use with a proper 10’ pole on my work computer only. Fuck no, never at home ever ever… Have you ever received an email on outlook and just saw the title or maybe you read halfway through and got interrupted?.. Where the fuck is it now? Its gone! Sure you could go email by email and try to be your own search engine. But its no use, whatever Tim was talking about with the over pressured valve at the Central boiler, blah blah you should let people know to exit the blah blah, otherwise 3rd degree bur…yeah that shit’s gone. Might as well write your own email to finish the story. See, Microsoft doesn’t want to be like Google at all. On my 14.9992G full gmail, I was always able to go find out what Amazon offer I got 8 years ago. Look 404! Yeah that’s it! 404! With Gemini spying on my every move that’s gotta stop. It’s gonna try to learn my porn habits. I’m gonna go search for all the wrong porn on purpose.
blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 months ago
And we still pay the vig to AdWords or does all my money go to LinkedIn now?
XenoK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
I don’t really get Google’s angle since it’s pretty obvious that their AI search sucks. Maybe it’s just to impress shareholders?
theneverfox@pawb.social 4 months ago
I mean, they’re ruining their search anyways. It’s almost unusable at this point, it’s like asking for relevant ads and two year old Reddit posts
Is it censorship? Did they decide to just straight up sell SEO? Are websites locking down and blocking their crawlers to stop AI training crawlers?
I legitimately find Bing to be better at this point, but whatever they’re doing it’s maddening. Even better AI assisted web searches kinda suck because the data fed into them is more of the same
But solid chance they’re trying to boost Gemini, which has been a shockingly bad llm for a company that basically wrote the book on AI not too long ago
balder1991@lemmy.world 4 months ago
There’s also the problem that there’s much more noise in the web nowadays. It becomes more difficult to filter out that’s good and what’s bad. Be too strict and you risk missing valuable but less polished information. Be too lenient, and you drown in low-quality, SEO-optimized content that prioritizes visibility over usefulness.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This makes sense to me. All other reasons presented sound like wishful thinking that google is still the same company from 2005