Yeah but the time for “ban guns” talk is over. We’re pivoting to “buy guns” now.
Don't ya know, guns can just ✨ magically appear✨ so any attempt to ban them is impossible. Dumb liberalssss tryna to take away my GOD GIVEN right to murder people!!11!
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nomy@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The arms dealers love this one funny trick.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The problem is we only have about two times the amount of guns compared to our population. We need to get up a ten to one ratio of guns to people to fix our problems.
Think of the shareholders! If we don’t keep buying new guns at a breakneck pace they won’t have infinite growth. We need to arm both sides in every conflict including our own. It is just what we do.
Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
It’s not the number of guns that’s the problem, it’s the distribution; having twice as many guns as people is no use when the guns are all in the basement of some asshole who supports the fascists
graycube@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Freedom!
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Oh hey, I actually agree with conservative… on that gun issue only. I don’t trust the government, and guns are a great tool to make fascist occupation much harder. It’s kinda ironic to see red areas having loose gun laws and the neoliberals be restricting guns, so fascist gun nuts can just murder anti-fascists, while anti-fascists have a tough time getting a gun. Just fucking ironic.
(Can dems stop banning guns? Its not a smart thing to do during the rise of fascism.)
Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I never understood this American line of thinking. Guns work against other people with guns like those trigger-happy & blood thirst MAGAts. But the US military can cook you alive from a mile away if they wanted to. Against that opponent you’re gonna need a way different approach.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 month ago
The same US military that is batting a fat zero in winning wars of insurgency? Remember all those videos of afghan people getting killed in thermal vision from “a mile away”? Those guys won.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The fascist occupation is already happening. Your theory has been proven incorrect through direct testing.
JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition […] Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.
DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Can dems stop banning guns?
Fear of Democrats banning guns is a long-time Republican and NRA talking point, but bogus. I sometimes hear Democrats (ie, ordinary people who vote blue) call for banning guns. The number of elected Democrats in any office, though, who propose banning guns, is very near zero, and that number becomes vanishingly smaller for higher officials, such as members of the US Congress.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
You can even 3D print a weapon that’s able to fire multiple shots. With the right material even up to a few dozen (with reduced accuracy).
I wonder at what point the US will learn that guns aren’t candy that should be available to everyone, but also that high crime rates can’t be suppressed through power but have to be solved through social policies. The difficulty to obtain a weapon has to be high, with the incentives of doing so low.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 month ago
As a non-US gun owner and 3d printing hobbyist who has done some metal working. 3d printing a gun is one of the harder ways of doing so. The issue is that guns are not hard to make in today’s world, it has been demonstrated that “hard” gun control does not work. The two best examples of “hard” gun control are Japan and the UK and both have examples of how unrealistic these are, In Japans case a homemade gun was used to kill Shinzo Abe and the UK (you would think I would use the troubles but no) is best summed up by a man named Philip Luty who was an anti gun control activist who published a book on how to make automatic firearms in a shed.
You hit the nail on the head with solving though social policies however. Even a simple gun licensing program and mandatory safety training can turn a nation of idiots with guns (the US) into a nation that has gun owners in it (like Italy or malaysia. I don’t think gun violence is going away, it is now a part of the human condition. What can be done is to not hand out firearms like candy and tie the idea of a nations “safety” or “freedom” to that of firearm ownership.
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a lathe is a good guy with a lathe.
Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Now I’m just imagining the Key and Peele hat skit but with guns.
Maeve@midwest.social 1 month ago
Zip guns exist.
Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The thing is, normally it’s not even a ban. It’s just a regulation or registration requirement.
IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Its much harder to get a gun in blue areas than red areas. So we get fascists having easy access to guns, while anti-fascists have trouble getting guns. What a shitty start to the civil war.
Democrats want gun permits to be “may issue” instead of “shall issue” which would allow cops to deny minorities of their constitutional right to own a gun. Seriously, democrats need to drop the gun issue.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s always weird to hear Americans argue against gun control because all these fears about and around regulation feel uniquely American.
rockstarmode@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Registration = (eventual) confiscation
_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I’m not giving up my guns when Trump supporters are frothing at the bit to go house to house lining undesirables up against the wall, and you’re a fucking idiot if you think giving up what little protection you have when the fascists literally want you dead is the smart idea.
Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wait what? You guys want to arm yourselves to protect yourselves, and conservatives want the same, and now you want weapons?
Do you not see the cognitive dissonance in here
onecarmel@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Yeah, good luck trying to take my guns away. Not leaving myself defenseless if all this craziness decides to step it up another level
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I just finished my NRA Basic Pistol class this weekend so that I can get the NRA Handgun Instructor certification next weekend. Personally, aside from having loved guns (and all other arms and armor) since I was in kindergarten, I’ve been competing in hit factor and PCSL matches for a few years. My intent is to offer free one-on-one classes to people in underserved communities that wouldn’t be comfortable around the kind of people that are normally firearms instructors. (Like, the person I took the class from seemed pretty cool, until he was talking to the RSO, and hooooooooly shit, dude’s pretty far right; apparently I can camouflage as being far right just because I know a lot about guns and shoot pretty okay.
Thing is, the right to keep and bear arms is both a universal civil right for Americans and is an individual right. (The last part is pretty clear when you look at the historical context; not only were individuals allowed to own firearms, but able bodied men were obligated to own military-appropriate arms, and be ready to be called up if they were needed.) Yes, it is for self-defense–that’s inherited from English common law–but that’s not the primary intent.
It’s an incredibly privileged take to think that you can remove guns from the people, leave them in the hands of the gov’t, and thing that you’re gonna be just fine.
taanegl@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Banning things? Ban it.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Disparaging the banning? Ooooh boy, that’s a banning.
Bublboi@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Only only one of those produces profits for the corporate military industrial complex.
raoulduke85@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Trump literally said he was for banning guns to people who are mentally unstable. When they rewrite what mentally unstable means, it means if you’re trans, lgtbq, take antidepressants, antipsychotics, anxiety…
Also, us liberals are buying guns faster than MAGAts. We don’t fuck around.
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 1 month ago
“Under No Pretense”
TheOriginalGregToo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wait, are you suggesting that taking antidepressants, antipsychotics, or having anxiety aren’t forms of mental instability? That’s quite literally the definition. Seems super reasonable that we wouldn’t want someone in that position to own a firearm.
raoulduke85@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Maybe you don’t know what the fuck mental instability means? Someone could have some anxiety and not have to be put in a hospital because they may hurt themselves or others. I wonder if the J6 ers took anxiety meds or were trans? Id feel safer next to someone who takes antidepressants than a J6er.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m trying to think of a way to phrase this that you might understand…
Let’s say your left arm is weaker than your right arm, because you only yank your hog with your right hand. Your left arm isn’t unstable, but it has some weakness compared to your normal nightly lover. But if you got that left hand a textured glove, then it would be just as good as righty. Maybe even better because you do like the variety.
That’s what antidepressants are. They’re a small kick in the serotonin to get people to feel normal.
Mentally unstable isn’t that. Unstable are the people with rage issues. You know the ones. You’ll hang out with them sometimes, but if they’re going too hard at the bar, you duck out early because they’re gonna do something stupid.
Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean I wouldn’t trust myself with a gun and I’m not even on antidepressants… So uh yeah probably don’t give me one but that does also apply to transphobes and pretty much everybody else, who isn’t a hunter by trade or just uses them at shooting ranges and keeps them there.