Bread and circuses.
Though that’s a little antiquated, so now it’s “high fructose corn syrup and superbowl”.
What keeps Americans from being mad about the state of their country?
Submitted 1 year ago by Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
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deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 year ago
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Because a third of Americans are uninformed, another third is misinformed and thinks the current administration is in line with their goals, the other third is being gaslit by the other 2/3s that this is normal… And for those not buying the gaslighting, they are ignored and still too small of a group to do much.
mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m mad, but what? Once we pull out the guillotines there’s no going back, so right now I’m hoping that checks and balances thing starts to kick in soon.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I agree. I fought very hard for harm reduction. I just think the time for that has came and went. Now we have to mobilize the population and that’s like a 10 year ordeal m, if it’s possible at all.
Yeller_king@reddthat.com 1 year ago
I dunno, they seem to be mad. It’s just most of them are wrong about who they should be mad at and why
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Those of us who are extremely upset about the state of our country are constantly wondering WTF is wrong with the other ones.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The feeling that nobody else really gives a shot is what does it for me.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I care too, what can I do to prove that I care to you?
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I believe you, but this is also a very left-leaning site that pretty much filters out all of the conservative idiocy from it. The general public doesn’t seem to give a shit and when I go out and about in the world it’s like nothing has even changed. I suspect it will be this way for a while even if eventually there is full-blown fascism with a world war, and death camps. I remember reading remarks by people who were around during the formation of the Third Reich in Germany and I remember them writing something like all the shops and everything were open and people were going to work like normal for a large portion of it. There was even a person that didn’t realize how crazy the country had gotten until he saw his small child imitating Hitler and saying antisemitic shit about Jews.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
30 years of watching progressive movements flounder and civil action lead to absolutely zero substantial changes has given me a defeatist attitude. What good is getting mad? It’s not like it will change anything.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 year ago
From the outside it seems that your progressive movements were a pretty good tool to spread thin the effort that could have gone someplace right, and also to weaken movements which were targeted at the real problems (for example, in the small world of FOSS it’s how FSF and GNU were slowly marginalized into something perceived as unreasonable and Stallman specifically pressed out, and no, his logically correct defense of some kinds of pedophilia and him being generally cringe were not the reason).
Also let’s please remember that everyone flocking to centralized platforms was welcomed by those progressive movements, their activists for whichever reason thought that the scale and the censorship will work in their favor and not those calling to fell the tall trees.
So - this is the logical outcome of what various movements have been doing. This part should make you optimist. And the feeling that you can’t certainly show at something at say that it will succeed should be liberating, not depressing.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why cling to the defeatist attitude? It defeats itself. Why have a defeatist attitude when defeat is inevitable?
wabafee@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think internet in general specifically social media. It allows you to vent your frustrations without doing actual damage.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think social media has done tons of damage. It think it brought together a group of people who would have never found each other, because they don’t have any decernable skills, and let them spread and consume misinformation at alarming rates.
MyNameIsFUElonTrump@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m mad as fuck. Get me one (or more) of those traitorous bastards within arm’s reach and they’ll find out precisely how mad.
dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Brainwashing from the moment they were born
demizerone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My education in California was only to facilitate me becoming a wage slave.
Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Prussian schooling everywhere.
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The majority aren’t at the point where they are willing to sacrifice everything yet. They have families, homes, food, friends. Currently the administration hasn’t taken away enough from enough people to get it really going. It will be coming though. People just haven’t felt the affects yet
delgato@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
As a young man (I’m under 30) with 2 kids I feel stuck like this. A lot of the protesting actions I would have taken are tapered by “I have to be around for my kids”, but at the same time this country is not how I want my kids to be raised in and I don’t know my own red line for this. Suffice to say if I’m thinking about this 3 weeks into Trump’s America, then I hope I will feel compelled to be more active. NYC might be coming to a heat with the Mayor Adam’s BS so I’m keeping my eye out for any manifestations in the city.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Why not?
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because people believe that they might be able keep what they have if they keep quiet and also believe they might loose their way or life or in general their life if they take up arms
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There’s plenty that are mad.
Just that the minority that are happy about it and the billionaires that own all forms of media keep sweeping that fact under the rug. Or they put a question mark at the end of it. Are Americans all that upset about trump? How much damage is trump really doing? And then they softball the response to questions like that with “who really knows what the damage will be? when it’s objective what the results are and the future holds.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
fear maybe
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe they should start assessing what they should really be afraid of. Take a deep dive into what Russia is really like because that’s wh a t the GOP sold us out for.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I hope the people who are fighting back understand the importance of making it known people are fighting back. Hope is really important.
Auli@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
The majority of people votes for this that is why. The no voters just wanted a clean conscious but they still voted for this.
Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 year ago
Around 1/3 of the country voted for him.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 year ago
I’m pissed off. I don’t know what I’m supposed to do about it. If there’s a protest near me I’ll join it. If I see somebody getting fucked with by a Nazi I’ll step in but I have responsibilities and a job and can’t really afford to travel. So until shit really kicks off I’m kind of stuck in this state where I can’t do anything.
__nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
All this is happening thousands of miles away from me behind locked doors.
IdontplaytheTrombone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Republicans have majority control over the media. They don’t know what’s happening because their news doesn’t cover it.
ef9357@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m infuriated! It’s like the US has lost their collective minds. But what’s the point in doing anything? This is what the voting populace of the US wants.
DelightfullyDivisive@discuss.online 1 year ago
I don’t think that is true. It wasn’t a majority. (Although that’s a nitpick, it was close enough to say that about half of all voters voted for Trump.)
A more important consideration is that the majority of people who did vote for him are incredibly naive when it comes to politics. They think that the president sets gas prices, or that Trump and Musk are geniuses because they say they are. Most of them feel disenfranchised by both political parties, and this is a brick through the window of the established order. I don’t think most of the electorate thought this through much beyond that.
I honestly don’t know what difference it will make in the long run, but I don’t think it is true to say that this is what most people wanted.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The voting populace can go fuck them selves. They are shit eating, brain worm addled, fucks.
MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Who tf says we’re not mad? We’re fucking furious.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Maybe, act more like it?
TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 year ago
By doing? The government doesn’t care about protest, and anything more extreme than protest is met with extreme violence.
What actions are you doing that validates your superior sense of self worth?
absentbird@lemm.ee 1 year ago
There’s more protests on Monday, and we’re only getting more angry.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Gaslighting?
Sabata11792@ani.social 1 year ago
Everyone is mad and everyone can’t agree why were mad so now were more mad.
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nothing? We’re furious. We just can’t do much to stop it.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Americans ARE mad, but the moderates and liberals have been on a decades-long crusade against gun ownership and now they dont know what to do because they aren’t armed, and when you tell them to arm up and march they start whining sone bullshit about MLK and Ghandi even though one was shot and the other never did anything of use.
9/11 happened because they’d been told all their life to stay in their seats and let authorities handle hijackings. Despite all the chest-pounding and fist-pumping, Americans are weak, lily-livered pussy-assed losers and will absolutely be destroyed by inaction exactly like Biden’s legacy will be.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Now watch as some snide little pencilneck will respond with some “you first, chief!” shitbaggerie. It has happened every other time I said this…
Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And, if you think we could fight and win against the US govt and all of its current supporters, you are grossly mistaken.
drmoose@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I think we’re just on a down wave globally. In early 00s we got social media which helped to organize people and lead to real actionable ideas. The bad actors figured it out and took control of our tools and now people are waiting for a new opportunity.
I think Americans need a strong leader and something to break the camel’s back. Everyone’s who’s angry now doesn’t have a good “deal” for risking exposure and their complacency because the failures are just too recent.
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
“Wanting a strong leader” is what gave us trump. You be a leader or allow yourself to be led by people in your local community. There is no perfect leader that could ever check everyone’s boxes. If there was one thi g we could all agree on I’d like to know what it fucking is.
GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
trump isn’t a strong leader, he’s a very accomplished con artist.
He allows people to project their vision of who he is on him.
You say I’m christian? Sure I’ll pretend I am
You say I’m anti abortion? Sure I’ll pretend that I am
You say I’m for the little guy? Sure, I’ll pretend that I care about them
You say I’m anti-vax? Sure, I’ll tell you that I am
You say I’m the second coming of Christ? Okay, I’m good with you thinking that about me
You say I’m a strong patriot? Sure, I’ll hug the flag and say the words you need me to say
He is everything to everyone of his supporters because he never tells them that they are wrong about who he is.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Random question but are any Americans being more careless with loans? It kind of seems like the US is on a crash course with an iceberg and I admit I’d feel a bit more at ease with debt in that situation than normally
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Try all your typical college grads.
BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m not even American and I’m mad. Most of what I’ve heard from Americans is that they’re mad.
Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Same. I’m so mad and disappointed in America, but I can’t let that override my compassion for its people. This whole thing is so frustrating to watch. Look at how the French do it, Americans! It’s time to break some shit.
Tedesche@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You have compassion for us Americans, and that’s nice, but bear in mind we voted for this. As much as the people who voted for Trump may have done so out of desperation, we still made a catastrophically stupid decision. Trump isn’t the problem, he’s a symptom. The problem lies in the American people. We have been squashed by both our government and our corporations. We need a wake-up call, and if that means we need to suffer from our own choices then so be it. Maybe we haven’t suffered enough yet. If we’re so dumb that we vote for a malignant narcissist like Donald Trump, maybe we need to be squashed a bit more. We have the power to take back our country, we just need the will to do it. Maybe that comes from more hardship and regret. Maybe that comes from more suffering.
But maybe not. Maybe I’m wrong. I’m so disappointed with my own countrymen right now, maybe I’m not seeing things clearly. I don’t know. But I know we deserve what we voted for. The world doesn’t, and that’s a tragedy, but maybe America needs to take a hit and the world needs to rely less on us for both America and the world to be better. Again, I don’t know.
bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Everyone I talk to is mad, my family is a bunch of Tumpers and beloeve everything he says.
chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 1 year ago
What makes you think we are not mad?
Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You just don’t seem mad. Maybe upset but like you’ll get over it in like 4 years or what ever.
AA5B@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m optimistic that in four years we’ll have an opportunity to start rebuilding. I can only hope our friends abroad have patience while we go through our meltdown, that somehow there’s enough economic inertia to control acceleration of climate change, and that mst of us can keep our heads above water.
Then again, I’m trying to figure out how to tell my son we can’t afford his first choice college because of financial aid changes made by republicans during trumps first term, taking effect now
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
everyone I know is mad. disgusted. ashamed of our country and it’s election systems that allow this incompetent clown show to destroy our democracy.
meanwhile joe joe could have had the cia murder trump et al, and probably gotten away with it considering the supreme court’s bullshit.
strange thing to wish had happened.
shortrounddev@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Idk what you’re talking about most Americans are mad at the state of out country