Every time I see a headline that contains the word “slams,” I want to slam my head on the table
Edward Snowden slams Nvidia's RTX 50-series 'F-tier value,' whistleblows on lackluster VRAM capacity
Submitted 3 months ago by avieshek@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
TBi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
And the user who posted it. I really wish there was a simple way to block sensational posts from my feed.
Psythik@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Thanks for giving me the idea. BRB, making a keyword filter for the words “slams” and “slammed”.
Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 months ago
Every one who bought the 7900xtx laughing their arse off running 20GiB models with MUCH better performance than a 4080/4080Super lol
Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
I bought my 7900XTX for $800, and have kept absolutely quiet about it.
Anyone who has asked me: “AMD sucks, CUDA better, buy NVDA stock”.
The invisible hand of the market is made of invisible delicious meat
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
also of invisible morons
TBi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m an idiot that waited. Saw a sapphire nitro 7900xtx on sale for €900 but didn’t get it holding out for the 5800. Now those are €1400 if you can find one and the 7900xtx is out of stock.
Have a 3080ti though so I’m not too bad off, just annoyed.
Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 months ago
Don’t feel bad, neither AMD or NVIDIA (or Intel for that matter) have produced anything worthy of note in the GPU space since the 1080Ti or 6800XT. Keep your 3080ti, it’ll serve you well for now. Hopefully Morethreads or Intel make something interesting and disrupt the market although it’s unlikely. NV and AMD have the GPU spaced fairly locked with IP (and cash reserves) that would drown any competitor in legalese for a millennium. The 7900xtx is a helluva card because it competes with overpriced NVIDIA hw, in any sane world it would be a 7800 class card and priced accordingly. (like the 5080 is actually a 5070)
poddus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
That headline is so stupid that I refuse to read the article
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ha, my sentiment exactly.
hakase@lemm.ee 3 months ago
He’s not wrong
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
I’ll wait for the Julian Assange review.
timewarp@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The video card monopoly (but also other manufacturers) have been limiting functionality for a long time. It started with them restricting vGPU to enterprise garbage products, which allows Linux users to virtualize their GPU for things like playing games with near-native speeds using Windows on Linux. This is one of the big reasons Windows still has such a large marketshare.
Now they want to restrict people running AI locally so that they get stuck with crap like Copilot-enabled PCs or whatever dumb names they want to come up. These actions are intentional. It is anti-consumer & anti-trust, but don’t expect our government to care or do anything about it.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
But that’s assuming there is actual high demand for running big models locally, so far I’ve only seen hobbyists do it.
I agree with you in theory that they just want more money but idk if they actually think locally run AI is that big of a threat (I hope it is).
deleted@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I legit tried to understand how a lackluster VRAM capacity could spy on us.
astro_ray@piefed.social 3 months ago
Just wanna say, cool username
avieshek@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You depend on the cloud instead~
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What the fuck is going on with the world
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
People are really showing who they are when push comes to shove.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Snowden showing us he’s a card reviewer
Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 months ago
But what does Ja Rule think?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Who cares what Ja Rule thinks? I’m holding out for Busta Rhymes.
adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Was this written by AI? The headline word salad contains all the buzzwords.
Quadhammer@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Edward Snowden PILEDRIVES the Nvidia RTX 50 series into a crowded bitcoin farm
Klear@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Don’t that distract you from that fact that 2025 Edward Snowden threw Nvidia’s RTX 50 series off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.
Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Whistleblows on poor performance is actually insane lol
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
That might’ve made sense if we was working as a contractor for Nvidia and revealed that info prior to launch. Maybe. Well, actually no, but it’s a lot closer than whatever this is.
riodoro1@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What the fuck is wrong with this timeline.
Do the amish accept atheists?
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The real question is whether they accept hypersexual autists.
StereoCode@lemmy.world 3 months ago
So now we care what Edward Snowden says about vram? We need him to tell us that it should be 24 gigs?
Gork@lemm.ee 3 months ago
How could Snowden get a hold of one of these in Russia? Maybe through an intermediary in Kazakhstan?
Then again it’s hard finding one here even in the US since they all went out of stock within 5 minutes of being listed.
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 3 months ago
According to russian over at r/hardware GPUs have become cheaper in Russia since the ban as they are now being smuggled instead of imported via Europe with all extra cost that implies.
InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
That doesn’t make sense or I’m reading it wrong
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Snowden added, “As someone who wants to sweep away corruption, there’s a lot to like in the new ShamWow. And for those really tough, dirty stains, there’s OXYCLEAN!!! With ShamWow and Oxyclean, you don’t need to be Rushin’!”
800XL@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Shut the fuck up, Snowden.You had everyone behind you until you defected to Russia. There’s no free lunch and you had a lot of info Putin would like to have. Oddly enough things really started getting bad shortly therafter.
Danitos@reddthat.com 3 months ago
He was being chasen by the US government, and Assange proved that being in an US allied country will still get your arrested/tortured. What other options did Snowden had other than escaping to Russia?
IMO don’t hate the player, hate the game.
800XL@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yeah, I thought the same thing too at the time and that’s why I wrote it off. But the problem is that knowing how Putin is and what he does, what makes you think that he would let Snowden stay there in Russia without demanding any of that information as payment?
And if Snowden was so hard up for places to go that he had to go to Russia to escape extradition to the US what position would he be in to even say no if Russia demanded it?
Think about it. If someone came to the US to escape persecution in Russia for whistleblowing, you can damn well believe the US gov’t would demand info. They brought all those Nazi rocket scientists over to work rather than sending them to prison because of the knowledge they posssesed. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
LiPoly@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
Think of it from Snowdens perspective. You get to choose: either be tortured for the rest of your life, or chill in Russia and pretend Putin is a nice guy. I know what I’d pick.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 months ago
He is not simply pretending Putin is a nice guy, he is clearly collaborating with russian security services. Just look at his comments on internal US politics. And he also was spreading misinformation that russia wasn’t going to invade Ukraine in Feb 2022.
He might be a hero for many, but if you’re Ukrainian (like I am), he is clearly a piece of shit.
Viri4thus@feddit.org 3 months ago
You’d fit squarely as the village idiot in a 1984 sub plot.
800XL@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Is that the reply you meant to write? Why don’t you try again, but think first.
Snowden goes to Russia and there’s no way Putin is letting him stay there without demanding that information.
If the shoe is on the other foot, the US would do the exact same. They brought Nazi rocket scientists over after WW2 and had them continue their work rether than putting them in jail to rot.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
things really started getting bad shortly therafter
Things started getting bad waaaaay earlier than that.
ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 months ago
An infamous former U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) contractor and whistleblower has unexpectedly shared his opinion on the state of the graphics card market.
Man who did big cool thing once also has opinions on unrelated thing, news at 11.
Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 3 months ago
Yeah that does seem a bit weird, my four year old RX 6800 has 16 GB VRAM already
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yes but that’s from a company that builds decent cards at an acceptable price, and not from the HypeLords of the Lesser Return on Investment Unless You’re a Farm.
(Getting ready for the downvotes!..)
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I can’t see the context because it’s freaking X, but I bet that’s in reference to local ML hosting.
There’s a big movement to get away from corporate AI, and I don’t need to explain the importance of that to the Lemmy crowd. But Nvidia is indeed artificially crippling consumer VRAM to stop them from being used for that too much, and protect their enterprise GPU market.
The most bizzare thing is that AMD is somehow implicit even though they have like zero market share in that space. 48GB 7900s (and so on) would have obliterated Nvidia and sold like hotcakes, much less actually using their modular memory controller architecture… But no? They restricted their OEMs from doing that because they… Don’t want money, I guess.
avieshek@lemmy.world 3 months ago
AMD is much of a scum as Nvidia is or Intel was, that’s why DeepSeek is something that came from China and you would need a new player completely outside of the current chain.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I don’t see how that’s relevant, Deepseek was trained on, and served on, Nvidia hardware.
MITM0@lemmy.world 3 months ago
What is even this ?
Diurnambule@jlai.lu 3 months ago
Kamoulox
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You’re about 30 years too late, but I’m glad you’re finally here
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 3 months ago
Edward Snowden doing GPU reviews? This timeline is becoming weirder every day.
Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Legitimately thought this was a hard-drive.net post
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 3 months ago
“Whistleblows” as if he’s some kind of NVIDIA insider.
0x0@programming.dev 3 months ago
Intel Insider now that would’ve made for great whistleblowing headlines.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I bet he just wants a card to self host models and not give companies his data, but the amount of vram is indeed ridiculous.
jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 months ago
Exactly, I'm in the same situation now and the 8GB in those cheaper cards don't even let you run a 13B model. I'm trying to research if I can run a 13B one on a 3060 with 12 GB.
secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Swear next he’s gonna review hentai games
Oh wait… www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAf1Syz17JE
newcockroach@lemmy.world 3 months ago
“Some hentai games are good” -Edward Snowden
Amir@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I’ll keep believing this is a theonion post
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
Does he work for Nvidia? Seems out of character for him.