Edward Snowden slams Nvidia's RTX 50-series 'F-tier value,' whistleblows on lackluster VRAM capacity

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• ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Snowden added, “As someone who wants to sweep away corruption, there’s a lot to like in the new ShamWow. And for those really tough, dirty stains, there’s OXYCLEAN!!! With ShamWow and Oxyclean, you don’t need to be Rushin’!”

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can’t see the context because it’s freaking X, but I bet that’s in reference to local ML hosting.

  There’s a big movement to get away from corporate AI, and I don’t need to explain the importance of that to the Lemmy crowd. But Nvidia is indeed artificially crippling consumer VRAM to stop them from being used for that too much, and protect their enterprise GPU market.

  The most bizzare thing is that AMD is somehow implicit even though they have like zero market share in that space. 48GB 7900s (and so on) would have obliterated Nvidia and sold like hotcakes, much less actually using their modular memory controller architecture… But no? They restricted their OEMs from doing that because they… Don’t want money, I guess.

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  • avieshek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    AMD is much of a scum as Nvidia is or Intel was, that’s why DeepSeek is something that came from China and you would need a new player completely outside of the current chain.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t see how that’s relevant, Deepseek was trained on, and served on, Nvidia hardware.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll wait for the Julian Assange review.

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• riodoro1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What the fuck is wrong with this timeline.

  Do the amish accept atheists?

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The real question is whether they accept hypersexual autists.

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  But what does Ja Rule think?

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Who cares what Ja Rule thinks? I’m holding out for Busta Rhymes.

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• ArchRecord@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  An infamous former U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) contractor and whistleblower has unexpectedly shared his opinion on the state of the graphics card market.

  Man who did big cool thing once also has opinions on unrelated thing, news at 11.

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• poddus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That headline is so stupid that I refuse to read the article

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  • Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ha, my sentiment exactly.

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• MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What is even this ?

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• Diurnambule@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Kamoulox

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• StereoCode@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So now we care what Edward Snowden says about vram? We need him to tell us that it should be 24 gigs?

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• wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You’re about 30 years too late, but I’m glad you’re finally here

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• adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Was this written by AI? The headline word salad contains all the buzzwords.

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  • Quadhammer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Edward Snowden PILEDRIVES the Nvidia RTX 50 series into a crowded bitcoin farm

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    • Klear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t that distract you from that fact that 2025 Edward Snowden threw Nvidia’s RTX 50 series off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.

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  • Pacattack57@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Whistleblows on poor performance is actually insane lol

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That might’ve made sense if we was working as a contractor for Nvidia and revealed that info prior to launch. Maybe. Well, actually no, but it’s a lot closer than whatever this is.

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• Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah that does seem a bit weird, my four year old RX 6800 has 16 GB VRAM already

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  • ByteJunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes but that’s from a company that builds decent cards at an acceptable price, and not from the HypeLords of the Lesser Return on Investment Unless You’re a Farm.

    (Getting ready for the downvotes!..)

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• vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Every time I see a headline that contains the word “slams,” I want to slam my head on the table

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  • TBi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And the user who posted it. I really wish there was a simple way to block sensational posts from my feed.

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    • Psythik@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for giving me the idea. BRB, making a keyword filter for the words “slams” and “slammed”.

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• Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Every one who bought the 7900xtx laughing their arse off running 20GiB models with MUCH better performance than a 4080/4080Super lol

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  • TBi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m an idiot that waited. Saw a sapphire nitro 7900xtx on sale for €900 but didn’t get it holding out for the 5800. Now those are €1400 if you can find one and the 7900xtx is out of stock.

    Have a 3080ti though so I’m not too bad off, just annoyed.

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    • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Don’t feel bad, neither AMD or NVIDIA (or Intel for that matter) have produced anything worthy of note in the GPU space since the 1080Ti or 6800XT. Keep your 3080ti, it’ll serve you well for now. Hopefully Morethreads or Intel make something interesting and disrupt the market although it’s unlikely. NV and AMD have the GPU spaced fairly locked with IP (and cash reserves) that would drown any competitor in legalese for a millennium. The 7900xtx is a helluva card because it competes with overpriced NVIDIA hw, in any sane world it would be a 7800 class card and priced accordingly. (like the 5080 is actually a 5070)

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  • Naz@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I bought my 7900XTX for $800, and have kept absolutely quiet about it.

    Anyone who has asked me: “AMD sucks, CUDA better, buy NVDA stock”.

    The invisible hand of the market is made of invisible delicious meat

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• 800XL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Shut the fuck up, Snowden.You had everyone behind you until you defected to Russia. There’s no free lunch and you had a lot of info Putin would like to have. Oddly enough things really started getting bad shortly therafter.

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  • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    things really started getting bad shortly therafter

    Things started getting bad waaaaay earlier than that.

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  • Viri4thus@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’d fit squarely as the village idiot in a 1984 sub plot.

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    • 800XL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is that the reply you meant to write? Why don’t you try again, but think first.

      Snowden goes to Russia and there’s no way Putin is letting him stay there without demanding that information.

      If the shoe is on the other foot, the US would do the exact same. They brought Nazi rocket scientists over after WW2 and had them continue their work rether than putting them in jail to rot.

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  • LiPoly@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Think of it from Snowdens perspective. You get to choose: either be tortured for the rest of your life, or chill in Russia and pretend Putin is a nice guy. I know what I’d pick.

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    • Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He is not simply pretending Putin is a nice guy, he is clearly collaborating with russian security services. Just look at his comments on internal US politics. And he also was spreading misinformation that russia wasn’t going to invade Ukraine in Feb 2022.

      He might be a hero for many, but if you’re Ukrainian (like I am), he is clearly a piece of shit.

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  • Danitos@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    He was being chasen by the US government, and Assange proved that being in an US allied country will still get your arrested/tortured. What other options did Snowden had other than escaping to Russia?

    IMO don’t hate the player, hate the game.

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    • 800XL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, I thought the same thing too at the time and that’s why I wrote it off. But the problem is that knowing how Putin is and what he does, what makes you think that he would let Snowden stay there in Russia without demanding any of that information as payment?

      And if Snowden was so hard up for places to go that he had to go to Russia to escape extradition to the US what position would he be in to even say no if Russia demanded it?

      Think about it. If someone came to the US to escape persecution in Russia for whistleblowing, you can damn well believe the US gov’t would demand info. They brought all those Nazi rocket scientists over to work rather than sending them to prison because of the knowledge they posssesed. There is no such thing as a free lunch.

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• Gork@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How could Snowden get a hold of one of these in Russia? Maybe through an intermediary in Kazakhstan?

  Then again it’s hard finding one here even in the US since they all went out of stock within 5 minutes of being listed.

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  • UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    According to russian over at r/hardware GPUs have become cheaper in Russia since the ban as they are now being smuggled instead of imported via Europe with all extra cost that implies.

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    • InFerNo@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That doesn’t make sense or I’m reading it wrong

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• deleted@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I legit tried to understand how a lackluster VRAM capacity could spy on us.

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  • avieshek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You depend on the cloud instead~

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  • astro_ray@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just wanna say, cool username

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• ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What the fuck is going on with the world

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People are really showing who they are when push comes to shove.

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    • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Snowden showing us he’s a card reviewer

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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The video card monopoly (but also other manufacturers) have been limiting functionality for a long time. It started with them restricting vGPU to enterprise garbage products, which allows Linux users to virtualize their GPU for things like playing games with near-native speeds using Windows on Linux. This is one of the big reasons Windows still has such a large marketshare.

  Now they want to restrict people running AI locally so that they get stuck with crap like Copilot-enabled PCs or whatever dumb names they want to come up. These actions are intentional. It is anti-consumer & anti-trust, but don’t expect our government to care or do anything about it.

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  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But that’s assuming there is actual high demand for running big models locally, so far I’ve only seen hobbyists do it.

    I agree with you in theory that they just want more money but idk if they actually think locally run AI is that big of a threat (I hope it is).

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• hakase@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He’s not wrong

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• TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Edward Snowden doing GPU reviews? This timeline is becoming weirder every day.

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  • Simulation6@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Does he work for Nvidia? Seems out of character for him.

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  • Amir@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll keep believing this is a theonion post

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  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Swear next he’s gonna review hentai games

    Oh wait… www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAf1Syz17JE

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    • newcockroach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “Some hentai games are good” -Edward Snowden

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  • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “Whistleblows” as if he’s some kind of NVIDIA insider.

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    • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Intel Insider now that would’ve made for great whistleblowing headlines.

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  • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I bet he just wants a card to self host models and not give companies his data, but the amount of vram is indeed ridiculous.

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    • jeena@piefed.jeena.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exactly, I'm in the same situation now and the 8GB in those cheaper cards don't even let you run a 13B model. I'm trying to research if I can run a 13B one on a 3060 with 12 GB.

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  • Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Legitimately thought this was a hard-drive.net post

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