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Apple’s first Mac mini redesign in 14 years looks like a big aluminum Apple TV

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://arstechnica.com/apple/2024/10/apples-first-mac-mini-redesign-in-14-years-looks-like-a-big-aluminum-apple-tv/

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  • flemtone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Would rather buy a Beelink SER7.

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    • barsquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Looks like that power button wasn’t placed by a circus clown and it has an option for USB PD, yeah this is more like it.

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  • ftbd@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    With the 10G NIC upgrade, I would see some use in this if it ran Linux

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    • ABluManOnLemmy@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It can possibly run Asahi Linux in the future. I had the same idea

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can get cheaper options with 10G nics in the same form factor

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Implying Mac Minis haven’t looked like Apple TVs from the beginning?

    Mac Mini (2005-2009):

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    Apple TV (1^st^ gen, 2007):

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    Mac Mini (2010, first redesign after Apple TV came out):

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    • kyle@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exactly my same thought, it’s just a smaller Mac Mini.

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Would it be so hard to get dual power supplies and a rack mount?

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    • thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It exists for the outgoing Mac mini. We ran two minis in a 1u, colocated in a DC, for years. They ran Ubuntu server.

      Rack mini: www.sonnettech.com/product/

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  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Meanwhile… Apple TV stuck in stone age and still can’t do bitstream.

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, it would be

    • more confusing if they shaped it like an iPhone,
    • more unstable if they shaped it like the magic mouse with the power port at the bottom,
    • super cute if they kept the exact power mac design but super smol.
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    • ilega_dh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That cilinder Mac Pro was a fever dream but I still love the design

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    • Janovich@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Smol Mac Pro would have been the best possible reality here.

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      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Imagine a lil tiny ornamental CD drive that just pops out!

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    • lando55@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      more unstable if they shaped it like the magic mouse with the power port at the bottom

      Sounds like someone didn’t wear their Brave pants today

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      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
        • way sexier if they shaped it so it could wear tight little brave pants
          (and the ‘turn on’ button would have be covered by pants in this case as well, which sounds proper)
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  • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean… It looks like the other Mac minis so… Okay.

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  • falkerie71@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The price of the storage upgrades. Jesus.

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    • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s because they launched this product with an actual reasonable amount of ram (16gb) compared to the 8gb they are still selling MacBooks with. So, if they can’t charge you $300 for a little bit of ram now, they instead are going to rape you on storage. Apple is still apple.

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    • Hiko0@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why care when we talk about desktops? Take the 512 GB model and attach a super fast and big external TB SSD.

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      • falkerie71@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think you’re confusing desktops with laptops.

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      • nomous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why care when we talk about desktops?

        Because it’s $600 and velcroing an external HDD to a nice new sleek piece of hardware makes it look ugly. Typical Apple bullshit, I’m surprised they didn’t develop another proprietary connector.

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      • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because we shouldn’t have to pay such prices to upgrade to a normal storage amount without dongles and external storage.

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  • Yes_Man@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Mac Mini’s are cool, and I appreciate that Apple has some of the most experienced and talented designers in the world… But they put the power switch on the bottom. You have to lift it up and turn it over to turn it on and off.

    A Mac Mini underside, showing the power button placement.

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    • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I assume that the plinth lifts it high enough for your finger to comfortably fit under.

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    • winkly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Power Bottom

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    • powermaker450@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      who let the magic mouse engineers loose

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So how do you figure the designers are that good?

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    • boonhet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It looks to me like the center part is thicker than the edge so the corner might not be flat against the desk. But I’m completely sure if it’s enough.

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    • hector@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But WHY??

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    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The previous model has it in the back, you can’t even feel it properly because it’s not recessed.

      On the other hand the last time I turned off my M1 mini was when we moved. It’s 100% silent and takes less power than a lightbulb when it sleeps, so why would I bother powering it off.

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      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So while it sleeps, it still wastes electricity on literally nothing. Gotcha

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      • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why would you run a lightbulb 24/7?

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    • biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d just get two toothpicks and make a seesaw to press it, although I pretty much never turn off my computers so I still wouldn’t mind too much

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      • Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, there will be suitable USB accessories, for just 99$.

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    • Usernameblankface@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is it meant to stay on forever once you set it up?

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    • sunbeam60@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’ll be able to fit a finger under it I bet.

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The next 900$ monitor stand will attach the monitor at the bottom with the screen facing the desk.

      You need to buy the ar/vr set to see what the screen is displaying.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What.

      The fuck.

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    • HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      At the very least, the keyboard functions for power.

      There is plenty of room on the front for a power button. Should have removed the headphone jack.

      Lol, lmao.

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      • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why didn’t they put the headphone port on the back…

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    • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But once its on why would you ever turn it off? /s

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        We used to have racks of these things for automated testing …. And eventually they stop responding, so someone needs to power cycle them. In the computer room. In a rack

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      • darreninthenet@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I bought my iMac in March 2020… since then it’s been powered down maybe half a dozen times (a couple of those were power cuts) and rebooted (outside of macOS updates) maybe ten times.

        It just sits there reliably doing its thing and sucks little juice in power saving so 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      • ilega_dh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This but non-sarcastically. I have a Mac mini and I don’t think I’ve ever touched the power button (except after plugging in of course, but then you’re already fiddling)

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      • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Assuming the desktop takes the same power saving techniques from their laptops, there is no real reason to turn it off.

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    • GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Remember though that these are the same engineers who put the Magic Mouse charging port on the bottom, making the mouse unusable while you charged it

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      • JWBananas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Even worse, that was done intentionally. They wanted to prevent retail stores from leaving them plugged in at all times.

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      • million@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        People treat it like a mistake but not be able to use the mouse while it’s plugged in is the entire point of the design. Right or wrong the Apple designers thought a cord drag was a bad experience and designed to prevent it.

        They probably looked at their target audience and realized there was a certain percentage of folks that would just leave the mouse on the cord 24/7 and wanted to prevent that.

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      • ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah and I hear they might bring that back lol. Why haven’t there been any wireless mice that use wireless charging? They could include a super thin coil that you could place under any mouse pad. It doesn’t even need to charge fast so heat shouldn’t be an issue. Just trickle charge when it’s not being used.

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      • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Honestly, the mouse charger screams marketing or management. Apple’s brand is partially form over function.

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    • falkerie71@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In case it wasn’t a joke, I imagine it would be high enough for your finger to just poke under it to push the button, like you would a monitor with buttons on the bottom of the screen.

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      • Yes_Man@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        A reporter at the Verge just had a hands on with it and confirmed that you do, unfortunately, have to lift it up.

        there’s no way to reach the power button, which is on the underside of the computer, without lifting it up.

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      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Doesn’t look like it is.

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    • xxd@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The new design seems more lifted, I think it should be fine to fit your finger below there without having to lift it.

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  • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That doesn’t seem very good for the price.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think the issue is - I would buy something positioned as a very long-living and good machine for that price.

      Like Sun workstations were. The design and experience of everything.

      The issue with Apple is that these things look expensive, temporary and inconvenient (that feeling of concept nice to look at … for a day or so). And what’s worse, they are.

      I hope Larry Ellison gets geriatric demented sooner, maybe then he’ll try to resurrect Sun as a separate entity. Just joking, even to Larry Ellison I only wish good health.

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    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its not, you can build your own mini pc with a ryzen 9700X, more ram, more storage, and it would probrally cost less. In addition you wouldn’t be locked into the Apple ecosystem and you would be able to upgrade it.

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      • GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Ok, let’s put together a mini PC with a ryzen 9700X for under $600. What case, power supply, motherboard, RAM, and SSD are we gonna get? How’s it compare on power, sound, form factor?

        It’s an apples to oranges comparison, and at a certain point you’re comparing different things.

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      • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sure. And you can buy a dirt bike cheaper than an ATV. Yet people still buy ATVs.

        I’m not gonna do iOS dev or ML on a GMKtec no matter how cost-effective it is, just like I’m not gonna play x86 Windows games on a Mac even if I win a maxed-out unit in a giveaway.

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      • rustydomino@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Some people like the Apple ecosystem.

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    • Hiko0@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There‘s nothing comparable on the market at this size and price when it comes to sheer power and energy efficiency.

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      • nomous@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        $600 gets you 16GB of RAM and 256GB of storage. You can get better hardware for less.

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    • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Aside from the pitiful SSD it seems good.

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  • ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Most, if not all, Apple devices look almost exactly the same as their sibling devices.

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