57$
Thanks for putting the answer in the post body, made me chuckle.
Now we know how much it costs to make a $2,800 Dior bag
Submitted 5 months ago by ooli@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
It doesn’t matter how much it cost to make, only what people are willing to pay.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Is that a Ferengi rule of acquisition?
Also, I have an Italian friend who sells jewelry and a long time ago he taught me that one of the ways to make something … anything … more valuable is to simply increase its price. If you price something cheap, people naturally think it’s cheap … if you price something as valuable, even if it isn’t, most people will believe it is valuable and will be willing to pay the higher price.
ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
That typically only works for luxury goods, but yes. A good that inverts the effect of price on demand is called a Veblen Good.
But that strategy probably wouldn’t work for something like rice or shampoo or socks or drywall putty unless people start usong those as status symbols.
bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
But I think it has too go way up. If it goes up but not enough then it’s an expensive thing, not a valuable one.
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I completely agree when it comes to luxury items. In fact, I fully support the luxury version industry.
When this shit applies to the standard version is where we should be drawing our ire; when the $20 bag costs $0.11 to make.
ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We have to reduce people’s willingness to pay you say hmmm
beerclue@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I used to work for a luxury brand in one of their “unnamed” locations in Eastern Europe. A pair of shoes would cost around 50€ to produce. We would then ship it to Italy, they would add the insole and laces, label them as “made in Italy” and sell them for 1k€+…
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
What brand?
beerclue@lemmy.world 5 months ago
LV
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Me Shoesy!
Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
Proof that a free market doesn’t magically create value.
MrSoup@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
*Proof that a free market magically create value, because people actually buy them.
hannesh93@feddit.org 5 months ago
But as with all products production cost is not really saying that much
How much money did the design process take as they surely have some extremely high-paid people doing that? If you then include their deliberate small number of produced goods in order to stay exclusive that design cost is distributed across only a couple of thousand bags. Also what about the designs that didn’t become bags at all?
I’m not saying it’s worth that price at all as their main drawing point is marketing but just looking at the production cost is a very short-sighted view and a very populist framing, too.
There’s a reason why actually rich people don’t walk around with the stuff those luxury brands sell in their stores - it’s just peacocking to show how much money you can afford to waste and nothing else
Delphia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Its like that old example of "A graphic designer has a meeting with a CEO to design a new company logo, in 2 hours they are finished and the designer gives the CEO a bill for $4000. The CEO explodes “I’m not paying $4000 for 2 hours work” the designer responds “You arent, your paying for the decade of experience that allows me to do it in 2 hours.”
originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 months ago
my favorite is the factory analogy. giant machine the size of a football field breaks, will not run. they call in the engineering expert who spends 2 hours eyeballing the machine, when he takes out a tiny screwdriver and turns a single screw counterclockwise 1 turn. the machine bursts to life.
he hands the factory owner a bill for 10,000$.
the factory owner says 'thats preposterous, im not paying that for one turn of a screw'
the engineer scribbles on the paper;
tuning screw 1.00$
knowing which screw to turn 9,999.00$
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
I think you’re not focusing on the part that they were made in Chinese-owned slave shops in Italy, by slave labor illegally smuggled from China.
hannesh93@feddit.org 5 months ago
No that’s totally disgusting - I was only complaining that it’s not the full “this is how much it costs” equation
quixotic120@lemmy.world 5 months ago
On one hand if you actually read the article this number is already misleading because they didn’t even bother to include the price with materials, which are leather (and assuming high quality leather at that), which probably drives that number up a bit although nowhere near the final cost.
On the other hand, duh, this is how commerce works? I make something (or buy it from someone who can make it in high volumes) and then sell it at higher price than I sold it for. I guess it’s just the commentary that there are people out there with enough disposable income to spend 3 grand on a bag? That is ridiculous for sure but it’s nothing new, been around for decades
rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It’s impossible to pay a living wage to all the workers involved for $60. That and the horrid working conditions mean that these “luxury” bags are the same sweatshop fast fashion bs as everything else, without any of the cheapness. We don’t have to accept something just because it’s normal.
Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 5 months ago
To give DIOR way fairer a light than it deserves, this is the labour cost, not the material cost. I assume that is substantially higher, but I imagine still not anywhere close to $2000+.
I've never been in the habit of buying name-brand fashion items purely because of the fact that a significant part of what you pay for is the brand's signature - you're not necessarily paying for something better than the rest.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Doesn’t surprise me. Even when you pay labor a fair, living wage for high-end apparel and fashion items–which Dior is definitely not doing–the cost of labor is still a pretty small fraction of the final price. The cost of materials and findings on those bags is likely more than the labor costs.
Most of what you’re paying for in high-end goods is very careful design, attention to materials and the construction process, and very good QC. Those are largely intangibles.
So why don’t they pay workers reasonably then, since it’s such a small fraction of the final cost? Because the company has no soul.
HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 months ago
thats basically a retail cost to since they are not making it themselves.
Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Yeah, $57 sounds still quite a lot, the material probaly costs like $2 and the cheap exploited labour cost is also like $2, and shipping some dollars per bag.
boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Don’t forget about all the costs on the website and storefront end then paying the employees/staff, advertising and so… WAIT JUST A GOT DAMN MINUTE 😂
essell@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That is a lot to make a handbag, ten or twenty times more than a lot of them.
BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Bernard Arnault, the CEO of LVMH, is now the richest person in the world above Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.
It did not happen by accident.
hahattpro@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They have invested a lot in branding, now they got to claim it back.
Moreover, a high retail price make that bag valuable.
ooli@lemmy.world 5 months ago
something has value because it is sold for a lot? Seems weird. If I sell a turd for 2700$ the turd has “value”
minibyte@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Now you’re starting to understand how money is laundered through art.
treadful@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Well, yes. But we can still make fun of whoever bought it.
9point6@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I mean, I’m definitely not defending this massively overpriced bag, but an artist can spend less than a hundred on materials to make a piece of art, and it sells for millions
The value of the materials and even the labour that goes into making it are not the only things that determine the value of luxury items, value is heavily determined by scarcity in one way or another.
For the piece of art, this is actual scarcity, there may only be one. For the bag, the scarcity is somewhat crazily generated by the RRP meaning many won’t buy it and therefore creating the scarcity to justify the value.
It’s kinda a microcosm of capitalism, where value is created by the perception of value.
best_username_ever@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
If I sell a turd for 2700$ the turd has “value”.
Yes, it works well for bitcoins and NFTs.
Tregetour@lemdro.id 5 months ago
If anyone’s interested in the worst behavior the fashion industry has to offer, search for ‘rolex authorized dealer’ on YT. Then follow that up with ‘I can’t wear my Rolex in public anymore’ results from the watchtubers.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 months ago
A what bag? I thought this was medical stuff before seeing the thumbnail.
Thrife@feddit.org 5 months ago
“Italian prosecutors found Dior paid $57 to produce bags retailing for $2,780.”
In case someone else comes to the comments to see the important detail.
Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Makes me feel better about only paying for a 300% markup on car parts
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Rock Auto ftw
psmgx@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Only 300% lol
anon6789@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Thanks for respecting our time and its monetary value!
morrowind@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
^Excluding cost of material
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Considering how many “luxury” bags nowadays are “vegan leather”, pvc or other plastic byproduct materials… I don’t think the material costs that much either.
One of Dior’s current “it” bags is literally a beach canvas tote bags retailing for USD$3000k+. And most luxury houses don’t even do real gold/platinum or plated hardware anymore. There is no “luxe” in modern luxury anymore tbh, it’s really about showing off the name