Pretty ironic for this article to have a paywall.
Welcome to the Golden Age of User Hostility
Submitted 7 months ago by boem@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/04/roku-tv-ads-patent/678041/
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Technus@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Get Firefox and use reader mode right after the page loads.
rtxn@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Telodzrum@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Do you want ads or do you want to pay for quality media?
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I want to read articles of interest to me easily. Subscriptions to print /text media sources often don’t work out on a value analysis though. The best way to consume media is through specialty sources now. I want the Atlantic for tech articles, another source for fashion, another for sports, and an occasional glance at NYT or the post for key articles. I don’t want to lock myself into a source for subscription. My intrest in this article is worth about 6 seconds of my time to access, about three or four non obnoxious ads, or about 7 cents as an instantaneous micropayment. Exceed any of those limits and I walk away never to return to it. I’m guessing a lot of readers fall somewhere in that range of tolerance. Until micropayments are a thing I think text media like this actually still make sense for ad. Support really. Will block it as much as I can, and I won’t tolerate anything too obnoxious, but the model more or less makes sense. Fuck the paywall - Im surprised that model is sustainable, i walk away instantly with that.
MonkderDritte@feddit.de 7 months ago
Another page that works better with js disabled.
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
Is it any wonder why we pirate and adblock. Im not going to embrace hostility, im going to fight fire with fire. Every time.
nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 7 months ago
Don’t forget open source software.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 months ago
Open Source Software is definitely pretty 🔥 if you ask me!
skeezix@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Even the article itself is hostile as i cant read it because it’s paywalled
Boozilla@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Reminds me of those gas stations that play commercials at the pumps. More and more of them are disabling the mute buttons. I only stop at stations with the TV-free pumps now.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 months ago
There are fuel pumps that show ads? Where do you live? That’s crazy to me
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I just want to emphasize how loud these can be for the unfamiliar as well. Like blaring into your ear while you pump. Also, some of the really loud ones are not synced pump to pump so you’ll get this shouting weird echo while at the pump. I think Tesla probably gave the gas stations a grant to put these things in. It seriously has contributed toward my motivation to go go electric for next car.
Zink@pawb.social 7 months ago
American thing
Not in my town, but they’re not hard to find literally anywhere in the US
EntropyPure@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I think it’s an US thing. Have yet to encounter something like that in Europe.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
California
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Ohio. It’s all of them now
Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
“People are taking the piss out of you everyday. They butt into your life, take a cheap shot at you and then disappear. They leer at you from tall buildings and make you feel small. They make flippant comments from buses that imply you’re not sexy enough and that all the fun is happening somewhere else. They are on TV making your girlfriend feel inadequate. They have access to the most sophisticated technology the world has ever seen and they bully you with it. They are The Advertisers and they are laughing at you.
You, however, are forbidden to touch them. Trademarks, intellectual property rights and copyright law mean advertisers can say what they like wherever they like with total impunity.
Fuck that. Any advert in a public space that gives you no choice whether you see it or not is yours. It’s yours to take, re-arrange and re-use. You can do whatever you like with it. Asking for permission is like asking to keep a rock someone just threw at your head.
You owe the companies nothing. Less than nothing, you especially don’t owe them any courtesy. They owe you. They have re-arranged the world to put themselves in front of you. They never asked for your permission, don’t even start asking for theirs.”
– Banksy
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I have yet to encounter one that lets me mute it…
4am@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Push the second button down on the right 3 times
GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Just spam all the buttons as fast as possible. I usually can seem to softlock the display but the transaction old school display still works properly.
Boozilla@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They used to let you mute them. But everyone started doing it, so of course they disabled it. Sometimes you can get into the admin menu with the right combo of button presses. I don’t recommend trying this, as most stations have multiple security cameras and your locale might have draconian laws about tampering.
thegreekgeek@midwest.social 7 months ago
One of these days I’m going to find out where they hide those speakers and when I do I’m bringing an icepick to the pump.
tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’m glad that The Atlantic is covering this issue. Nothing groundbreaking here for anyone who follows these issues, but the Atlantic’s audience overlaps a lot with actual policymakers and their staffs. The tech companies don’t want to be regulated by the government, so coverage by these types of publications may be a good starting point for reform (whether voluntary or regulated).
Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Sorry but this article is just false and misleading.
The company currently has no ability to see what users might be doing when they switch away from its proprietary streaming platform. This is apparently a problem, in that Roku is missing monetization opportunities!
Now look here.
Look at the logo in the bottom right.
Roku is already doing this and has been since last year. This is not a threat. It is a promise to shareholders and advertisers, and they have already fulfilled it.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I fail to see the claim that the article is false and misleading?
It sounds like what it states is what it is. Replace the phrase “currently has” with “didn’t” and your issue evaporates.
Which seems like unfair criticism given that the present or past tensing of an article’s statements are dependent on when it was written and is a rather fluid and interpretable thing. It’s a reasonable expectation that readers can understand and adjust their perspective of past vs present tense without failing to understand what the article is conveying…
Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 months ago
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The article was written two days ago.
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It’s a joke. A funny joke. Relax.
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Johanno@feddit.de 7 months ago
The end is here. You will love not owning your TV and its sending ads directly into your brain.
Your phone will make calls without you and your PC will do the work for you so can watch more ads.
solrize@lemmy.world 7 months ago
vividspecter@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Johanno@feddit.de 7 months ago
Ahhhhhhhh WTF! I was only half joking.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Our records indicate you haven’t received your Neuralink implant yet. Please report to the Elon Musk Centre for Compulsory Happiness next Thursday at ten. Failure to comply will result in your arrest.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
0x0@programming.dev 7 months ago
The real question is whether or not you can still buy a dumb TV in 2024.
rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
I’m one of the crazy people who spent 4 grand on a 85 inch dumb display meant for stores to use as digital signage. Honestly a great decision. It’s no home theater display but damn if it isn’t just as good as any smart tv I’ve seen. I just have it hooked to a raspberry pi running librelec.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I just don’t hook mine up to the Internet and disable all the ad and tracking stuff on my LG, but at least yours will probably last 10+ years.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 7 months ago
Rooting an Android TV gets you there, plus you get a TV that you actually own. It’s super niche and difficult to do, though. Hard to find info on which TVs can be rooted.
Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Is any of that information centralised anywhere? I still have and love my old dumb TV, but I want to be prepared for when I am inevitably dragged in to the “smart” era.
eleitl@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
I use video projectors. Many of them, typically the better ones do not have any built-in smarts requiring an Internet connection.
In general, smart devices are a major security risk, and need to be firewalled off.
xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 7 months ago
There really needs to be laws requiring any smart device to have, like, 20 years of security patches, customer support and liability if anything goes wrong. If they want to place a device, that they insist needs internet access, in my home, they need to, at the very least, pay their way.
Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
You can, but now it’s called “a big monitor and your own server with a personal media library”.
Kroxx@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Bought an LG A2 OLED, I have never hooked it up to the Internet and I love it. I don’t use any smart functionality just a PC
nyan@lemmy.cafe 7 months ago
We managed to pick up some off newegg.ca as recently as a couple of years ago (RCA branded). Only 32-inch panels, though, so if you’re looking for a living room centerpiece, you’re better off going the digital signage route.
thegreekgeek@midwest.social 7 months ago
Ehhh, it’s not like I’d actually do it, but the thought of doing it while I’m pumping gas gives me warm fuzzy feelings inside.
nom_nom_nom_9999@ani.social 7 months ago
paywalled. Can someone get me the content ?
nom_nom_nom_9999@ani.social 7 months ago
Ok got it. Here is this, if anyone want to read paste.ec/paste/3CeHnhPZ#8yzuDmyaM8fRRD6Qa+4MYlE0X…
hahattpro@lemmy.world 7 months ago
thanks
menemen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
To understand how unhinged our society is one only need to understand how we constantly improve our technology, but don’t use it to improve us as a society.
imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 7 months ago
Primitive metallurgy was used to create weapons for millennia before it became commonly used for cookware. Technology has always been primarily used as vector for human beings to control and dominate one another, rather than to assist/improve society.
menemen@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Didn’t say we used to be better. We’ve always been a shitshow.
greenskye@lemm.ee 7 months ago
To be fair, that was back when wildlife was much more of a threat. And probably also a lot more risk of criminals or other bandits. Making a weapon to protect your tribe is not really in the same ball park as this.