Submitted 8 months ago by nix@merv.news to technology@lemmy.world
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807
For anyone wondering if Threads and Facebook at large will be a fine neighbor in the space and compatible with other apps/services in the fediverse: they’re already automatically hiding comments that mention Pixelfed mastodon.social/@dansup/112126250737482807
mEtA wOnT dEsTrOy ThE fEdIvErSe. wE sHoUlD lEt tHrEaDs In
Let’s just give them a chance guys. They haven’t done anything bad yet. It will help the fediverse grow. We need their content
wE cAn AlwAyS dEfeDeraTe lAtEr. It dEfinIteLy WoN’T bE tOo LaTe tHeN
Yeah because that’s an opinion people have
Oh no, it was everywhere, and I got into some decent arguments with those lovely people who ask you to show them how it’s going to have any effect on the fediverse at all, complete with citations.
WeLl hOw Do YoU KnOw?
Buddy, search for Threads related posts from a few months back. This was seriously in question.
You can search for threads and literally see these comments yourself buddy
The largest lemmy instance (lemmy,world) is federated with them. I assume their mastodon instance also is.
I remember you from the Reddit post!
Highly unlikely. I dont post on reddit
I was one of those people that said “let’s see if they will be acceptable neighbors” and well, it seems we have an answer.
If it’s true then I now favor defederation.
Yeah I mean who could’ve seen something like this coming?
After so many positive experiences with the charming and wholesome company Meta, now this completely out of the blue…
I just…
I just do not get the twitter framework for social media. Like I appreciate you mastodon bros, but what the hell is actually going on over there. I had the same issue with twitter. What the hell even is this?
It’s an easy way to shout stuff about some trending topic, without creating a whole new community for it.
And on the other hand, it works for expressing some personal thoughts or memes without having to adhere to a specific topic. But with random strangers instead of only your facebook friends.
I think for these kind of needs, no other social media framework would comply better.
I guess I get it, but like, sorting by all or new kind of does the same thing…
I do see that it is popular, but the ‘feel’ is just that its a bunch of people shouting at each other across a cafeteria.
I never really got the Twitter model either. Following a specific individual is a weird one for me; I’d rather follow an idea or a topic instead (Reddit/lemmy/forums). I honestly don’t care enough about any individual user to the point where I want to know what they have to say about… anything, really.
I wish I could go back to a Lemmy thread showing how Mastodon and other Fediverse instances were blocking Meta ahead of it’s integration, where people went “Oh you’re just being paranoid, why would they do that?” And when given examples of companies taking open standards and either making themselves the biggest source of users or killing it (Microsoft, Google, Apple) they either went “Well that happened in 2006, it’s 2023!”
I know the bootlickers wouldn’t actually change their mind, but jesus christ. It’s frustrating for groups of advocates to be ignored and proven right each time. Cassandra syndrome is real.
What are these examples and how do they relate to what Mets is doing?
Im SOOOO surprised. /s
What’s a pixelfed?
If I am not mistaken, it’s an open source Instagram alternative.
Ah I see. I am now suitably enraged.
I didn’t know either so I looked it up for you.
Hey, that actually looks neat!
thats it, the fediverse is canceled cuz threads is doing stupid shit on their own server. game over. everyone pack up their lemmy and go home.
Obviously not, but the behavior already shows that Meta/Threads isn’t interested in being a good fediverse citizen, and in doing so lends more credibility to the idea that they’re aiming to embrace, extend, and extinguish.
but I am home
Pixelfed pixelfed pixelfed
Gottem
Behold unfettered capitalism in all its glory.
“We only stay successful if we hide evidence of alternatives”
The only thing that saved Meta/Web3 from creating a special hell is that capitalism is too advanced at this point to create a market before trying to squeeze every last drop of blood out of it.
We’ve reached the phase where all new enterprise services come pre-enshittified
is lemmy.world federated with threads?
Yes you can check who is here fedipact.veganism.social.
mastodon.art blocked 5,805 Admin: Fuck off, Zuck
K. That’s my top choice if I relocate.
So what’s fedipacked mean?
Aussizone is the pink heart
I am stunned that so many instances think federation with Threads is a good idea.
I thought @dansup already committed to blocking federation with Meta. Why does he care if they're shutting him out, too?
People make more complex decisions when they have multiple roles:
It’d be a damn shame if everyone started putting pixelfed at the end of every message to both deny threads content and create a Streisand effect.
Picks “el fed”
What’s the point of planning to integrate with activitypub if they do shit like this?
To overrule it
I wonder if this means we can mention any word in their filter and our content will not be scraped by them? Something like a Meta filter signature on every post or comment like follows:
Pixelfed, etc, etc, etc…
Just switch to an instance that doesnt federate with them
I think my instance isn’t federated but I am under the understanding that the federation can still scrape data through other federated instances that mine is connected with. Something along the lines of ‘their data doesn’t come in but your data is still sent out’.
No it just hides your comment as spam
Data corrupting spam perhaps?
But surely meta has good intentions and we should totally trust them guys!!1!
Why is everyone so opposed to cancer Threads coming to the Fediverse?
Zuck Fuckerberg.
Do we have a list of instances that have chosen to defederate?
henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Repeat after me: I will not federate with any Meta products.
DaCrazyJamez@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I will not federate with any meta products.
LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Serious question: how do we - the end users - stop federating with Meta?
chrisbit@leminal.space 8 months ago
Move to an instance that won’t.
henfredemars@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Migrate away from instances that embrace Meta to those that do not. Choose an instance that aligns with you.
Or in the extreme case, if you’re the first who can’t find such an instance and you’re technically inclined, there’s your room for a new instance. It’s how the fediverse works and partly why Meta is so intent on destroying it.
Minotaur@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m kind of stupid and more here just because it tends to be better discussion than Reddit: what does “federate with” mean in this context??
Thanks!
zak@social.goodanser.com 8 months ago
@Minotaur @henfredemars @technology You are using an account on lemm.ee to reply to someone commenting from an account on infosec.pub in a community hosted on lemmy.world.
Those are all running Lemmy software, but I am replying from an account on social.goodanser.com, which is running Mastodon software.
That's federation. We're all using different service providers, sometimes even different software, but we can talk to each other because they speak the same protocol, called ActivityPub. Threads.net has announced plans to support ActivityPub and conducted some limited trials, which they're in the process of expanding. They claim they intend to support it fully, but only for users who opt in to it.