I’d expected this but it still sucks.
Regrettably, there is currently no substitute product offered.
I really don’t think you regret a God damn thing broadcom.
Broadcom yanks ESXi Free version, effective immediately
Submitted 9 months ago by kalpol@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world
https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2107518?lang=en_US
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brygphilomena@lemmy.world 9 months ago
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
If you’re already running windows, hyper-v, that’s proxmox, and tons of others. So they are mistaken. 🤣
CazRaX@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They mean that they aren’t offering another solution.
TheHolm@aussie.zone 9 months ago
All of them not equate in same league. Do you know any type 1 free supervises out there? Xen probably.
Moonrise2473@feddit.it 9 months ago
RIP VMware.
Broadcom prefers to milk the top 500 customers with unreasonable fees rather than bother with the rest of the world. They know that nobody with a brain would intentionally start a new datacenter with VMware solutions
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Not anymore, thats for damn sure.
Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
When big players like AWS are running KVM and XCP-NG, yeah. VMware is basically the also-ran at this point.
jelloeater85@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s really sad, they used to be amazing and the goto for running Linux VMs on back in the day. Still haven’t seen anyone do hardware pass through as well.
Changer098@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Well dang, I guess that “learn about proxmox” line on my to-do list just moved a little higher. For the most part, I’ve enjoyed using ESXi and am sad to see it go.
LrdThndr@lemmy.world 9 months ago
FWIW, I run proxmox at home, and I friggin love it. It’s really not hard at all.
dan@upvote.au 9 months ago
I like Unraid… It has a UI for VMs and LXC containers like Proxmox, but it also has a pretty good Docker UI. I’ve got most things running on Docker on my home server, but I’ve also got one VM (Windows Server 2022 for Blue Iris) and two LXC containers. (LXC support is a plugin; it doesn’t come out-of-the-box)
Docker with Proxmox is a bit weird, since it doesn’t actually support Docker and you have to run Docker inside an LXC container or VM.
mindlight@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Along with the termination of perpetual licensing, Broadcom has also decided to discontinue the Free ESXi Hypervisor, marking it as EOGA (End of General Availability).
Wiktionary: Adjective perpetual (not comparable) Lasting forever, or for an indefinitely long time.
Hello ProxMox here I come!
TCB13@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Hello ProxMox here I come!
Proxmox is questionable open-source, performs poorly and will most likely end up burning the free users at some point.
timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
You know, you can recommend lxd and whatever without putting out FUD about proxmox and other tech.
kn33@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They’re terminating in the sense that they won’t sell it anymore. They’re not breaking the licensing they’ve already sold (mostly, there was some fuckery with activating licensing they sold through third parties)
kalpol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Sort of. The activation license will work as long as you have it. They won’t renew support though, which effectively kills it when the support contract runs out.
sj_zero 9 months ago
The most important thing for everyone to remember is that if you don't fully own the thing such that you can install and run it without asking permission, or if it isn't simply free and open source, then it can go away at any time.
0110010001100010@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Really glad I made the transition from ESXi to Docker containers about a year ago. Easier to manage too and lighter on resources. Plus upgrades are a breeze. Should have done that years ago…
kalpol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I need full on segregated machines sometimes though. I’ve got stuff that only runs in Win98 or XP (old radio programming software).
DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 9 months ago
Might be time to look into Proxmox. There’s a fun weekend project for you!
DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Do you work for a railroad? That sounds too familiar.
eerongal@ttrpg.network 9 months ago
I agree with the other poster; you should look into proxmox. I migrated from ESXi to proxmox 7-8 years ago or so, and honestly its been WAY better than ESXi. The migration process was pretty easy too, i was able to bring over the images from ESXi and load them directly into proxmox.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
If you’re running a basic linux install you can use KVM for some VMs. Or use Proxmox for a good ESXi replacement.
TCB13@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Fear no my friend. Get get yourself into LXC/LXC/Incus as it can do both containers and full virtual machines. It is available on Debian’s repositories and is fully and truly open-source.
TCB13@lemmy.world 9 months ago
So… you replaced a property solution by a free one that depends on proprietary components and a proprietary distribution mechanism? Get get yourself into LXC/LXC/Incus (that does both containers and VMs) and is available on Debian’s repositories. Or Podman if you really like the mess that Docker is.
kalpol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve seen you recommending this here before - what’s its selling point vs say qemu-kvm? Does Incus do virtual networking without having to straight up learn iptables or whatever? (Not that there is anything wrong with iptables, I just have to choose what I can learn about)
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
XCP-ng or Proxmox if you need a bare metal hypervisor. Both open source, powerful, mature, and have large communities with lots of helpful documentation.
I think you can migrate ESXi VMs directly to XCP-ng. I have moved onto it about 6 months ago and it has been solid. Steep learning curve, but really great once you get the hang of it, and enterprise grade if you need stuff like HA clustering and complex virtual networking solutions.
Disaster@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I managed to migrate all mine to libvirt when I dumped esxi. They dropped support for the old opteron I was running at the time, so I couldn’t upgrade to v7. Welp, Fedora Server does just as well and I’ve been moving the VM hosted services into containers anyway.
Ofc… well, we’ll see what IBM does with RedHat. Probably something like this eventually. They simply can’t help themselves.
ziviz@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Yay… Capitalism…
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Its not capitalism it just is business. No one is making you use it.
TCB13@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This was totally expected, even before BCM bought them. This is the same thing we had with CentOS/ReadHat and that will happen with Docker/DockerHub and all the people that moved from CentOS to Ubuntu.
Xartle@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
I’m shocked I tell you; simply shocked…
PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 9 months ago
ESXi sucks
jelloeater85@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Have you ever used it?
PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 9 months ago
I don't own an IBM mainframe so.
brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Sucks but not surprising. Broadcom has a history of doing things like this, ugh. Even with their paid products they jack up the price so much that the only customers that stick around are the business enterprise types that are locked in & can’t easily migrate for various reasons.
Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 9 months ago
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters ESXi VMWare virtual machine hypervisor LXC Linux Containers ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity
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zorflieg@lemmy.world 9 months ago
High Availability not Home Assistant.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Depends which community you ask 🤣. It was definitely high availability first though.
angelsomething@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Bummer. Oh well, good thing I’m learning proxmox eh.
Damage@slrpnk.net 9 months ago
I wonder what’s the future of vmware player
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Not bright…
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Hopefully everyone migrated.
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redfox@infosec.pub 9 months ago
What about virtualizing windows?
Only thing I know of is hyperv, but it’s not widely used I don’t think and MS is pushing azure $tack right?
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Anything based on KVM does great
dan@upvote.au 9 months ago
Just make sure you install the virtio drivers.
Socket462@feddit.it 9 months ago
I tried virtualizing Windows on proxmox and it went smooth
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Hyper-v is definitely wisely used…
Lots of hypervisors support windows. Ie proxmox
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
To be pedantic - KVM is the hypervisor. Proxmox is a wrapper to it.
bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 9 months ago
what does this mean for me? i have a lenovo 82k100lqus
kalpol@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Doesn’t mean anything right now if you are running ESXi, except you can’t reinstall ESXi unless you kept the image and you won’t get ESXi updates.
bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 9 months ago
i looked it up, and it's part of vmware? i don't run that so *shrug*
Crogdor@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There are two kinds of datacenter admins, those who aren’t using VMWare, and those who are migrating away from VMWare.