People are paying $23 for this???
Honestly shocked.
Grandfathered YouTube Premium users will see price increase in January
Submitted 11 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://9to5google.com/2023/12/07/grandfathered-youtube-premium/
Comments
1984@lemmy.today 11 months ago
konalt@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just curious: Where in the article does it say $23? It says $13.99, so I’m wondering if it was a typo.
poppy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
They may be confusing it with the family plan? Which is $23 for up to 5 people, which imo is a pretty good deal if you know 4 other people to go in on it.
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s the family plan. The individual price is $13.99. Absolutely worth it to me. 10/10, would shill again. I watch almost exclusively on Apple TV, so unless I had a DNS ad blocker, I would see ads. And even those will eventually be detected and blocked, I’m sure. This is how much I’ve consumed since signing up in August:
I love supporting the creators of the excellent science and math content I subscribe to. Plus I watch a ton of stupid Tim & Eric sketches, SNL sketches, kitten videos and such. I couldn’t imagine seeing an ad for every 1:00 video!
Presented with a choice of paying or seeing ads, imma pay. The price is less than one movie ticket a month.
garretble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ll upvote you back up.
I’m the same way. I use YT on my AppleTV, and I’m an adult with money so $14 that bad. That’s basically one double quarter pounder meal these days.
Do I want to see the price increase? Of course not. But I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.
Landsharkgun@midwest.social 11 months ago
Get Nebula, you boot licking clown
Mango@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ll pay YouTube when they stop ducking over content creators with DMCA laziness and terrible royalties for music streams. A service that’s worth it is one thing, but that service essentially exploiting it’s employees who have no other viable alternative is bad. I’d rather pay my content creators directly through merch, Patreon, etc…
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Even DNS blocking wouldn’t work. DNS blocking only works if they serve ads via a different name server than they serve their content from (like content from videos.youtube.com and ads from ads.youtube.com). If they give you both ads and youtube content from the same domain, then your DNS blocker can’t selective block the ads. So DNS blocking doesn’t work on YouTube, and plenty of other streaming ad-containing streaming service.
RQG@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Per year or per month? I’m afraid to look.
avatar@lemm.ee 11 months ago
per month
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Just use a VPN in Turkey and get it for pennies on the dollar.
CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’d be worried they’d figure it out and ban your account.
aceshigh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I had no idea how expensive that was. I wonder when prices will max out. $23 is waaaay too much for YT.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
$23 for a family account. Which is cheaper than the single user ($11.50 a person if you were to have two people, $4.60 if you used all 5 accounts).
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Given the quality and quantity of videos on YouTube, it’s probably the best streaming service.
flamehenry@lemmy.world 11 months ago
YouTube have worked really hard this year to help people balance their media consumption with real life.
Everytime I am confronted with another irritating YouTube advert I close the App and say “Thanks YouTube. You are right, I didn’t need to watch a detailed unboxing review for a product I neither want, nor need to know exists. I will do something in the real world and try you again in an hour”
I now find myself thinking twice before even opening the App.
Even better on my PC, because I use AdBlockers, YouTube doesn’t even let me waste my time, even when I want to.
Truly, Do No Evil
systemglitch@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You shouldn’t get ads on PC. I use it daily for hours a day and never see ads.
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
You know things like revanced exist?
lemmyvore@feddit.nl 11 months ago
I mean, they’re still not wrong. Same thing happened with Reddit, curbing my use of it made me think twice about what I was really using it for and it turns out it wasn’t that much that was really necessary. It made me reach a better more healthy balance of how I use these sites (Lemmy too).
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 11 months ago
revanced is still $0/month
remer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m was grandfathered in at the announcement Google Play Music All Access price of $7.50 or 7.99. They better not raise it. They said during the announcement they would never raise the price for those that signed up then.
automattable@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m in this exact same boat. I also remember them saying they’d never raise the price on us. I imagine their defense will be something about how GPM doesn’t exist anymore and YouTube premium wasn’t part of that offer or something. It’s still bullshit but I can’t imagine we’ll win.
grahamja@reddthat.com 11 months ago
I miss Google play, I used to actually buy music that way. I just kind of find MP3s now…
Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not grandfathered then is it.
curiousaur@reddthat.com 11 months ago
Oh bullshit. I’ve been on that 7.99 since Google play music all access first launched. They said it was a permanent 7.99 if you signed up that first month it launched. Guess I’m moving services or going back to piracy.
cm0002@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Your account might be exempted, because that’s an old old deal, pretty sure “grandfathered” in this case are people who’ve signed up like the last couple years lmao
curiousaur@reddthat.com 11 months ago
The article mentions 7.99 prices specifically.
xbit00@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
I signed up day one, then when they added the family plan I moved to that day one. They started charging me full price earlier this year. Looks like they are resetting everyone’s price unfortunately.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nope. I was one of those and I too received that email.
xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 11 months ago
For music:
www.f-droid.org/packages/it.vfsfitvnm.vimusic/
Or
www.f-droid.org/…/com.anandnet.harmonymusic/
There’s also alternatives for YouTube like newpipe & libretube etc
DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 months ago
Or just ReVanced.
bitwolf@lemmy.one 11 months ago
I’ve been slowly de-googling over the past few years.
If you use Plex+ plexamp, and subscribe to Tidal, you can get very close to the original Google Play Music experience.
Hope this helps!
littlecolt@lemm.ee 11 months ago
This is disappointing. I was thinking of subscribing since I heard content creators got paid more per premium view, and $10 didn’t seem like a bad price. But if this is the second price hike in a single year, that definitely gives me pause.
Landsharkgun@midwest.social 11 months ago
Youtube will never give their content producers a fair payout. Just get Nebula.
flamehenry@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have Nebula but it kinda sucks. Content is too narrow and too US focussed. I really want a YouTube alternative but until they start to let more creators on the platform, not sure this is it.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This isn’t the second price jack. There was one price increase, and then there is now the phasing out of grandfathered users. All users will have to pay the new price (which hasn’t gone up again). Not defending YouTube, but just pointing out there isn’t another price increase
littlecolt@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Thanks for this, it made me go back and read through a second time. Just to explain my confusion, the article states that the price went up from $9.99 to $13.99 earlier this year, however, users that were subscribed through Google Play Music or YouTube Red were able to keep getting the old price for a little while longer. Then the article mentions “$9.99 – or even $7.99 – grandfathered users will now pay $13.99/month for YouTube Premium starting in January.”
Somehow, my brain interpreted this all to mean that there was a $7.99 to $9.99 increase in July. I think maybe I was thinking that because it’s odd to have an article about an old price increase. But really, the article is about the end of the grandfather period for Play Music and YouTube Red subscribers. All other users already had the price increase.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s cheaper for me to just bump up my Adguard DNS subscription on my home router. Though I’ve only done limited testing to see how efficient it handles YT ads. (so far seems to work).
Honestly, the $3 CAD I spend on Adguard DNS through my router has been incredible. I’m flabbergasted when I connect to someone else’s Wi-Fi and see what the Internet looks like outside my door walls.
Contend6248@feddit.de 11 months ago
Are you speaking about Adguard Home? That’s free, if you’re talking about their premium DNS, there are free alternatives with ad-blocking.
You can’t block Youtube ads via DNS for some years now.
aniki@lemm.ee 11 months ago
why are you paying for DNS?
Thermal_shocked@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Nextdns was $22/year and worked very well for me for 3 years. I maintain my own now, but for many people it’s perfectly fine to pay for a working service, not everyone wants or needs to fine tune their DNS like some. Just because it’s free doesn’t mean it’s better and vice versa.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Never found a free one that works as well at blocking ads and trackers.
iamjackflack@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Welp time to cancel
Mango@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Every cancel is worth 2 price increases! You canceling loses them more money than 2 other people taking the increased price!
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Revanced is a bit of a hassle to install but really worth it.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I prefer NewPipe
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I do like having recommendations though. Newpipe gives me the super normie feed and I’m just not that interested in the latest KSI vs Logan Paul.
Octopus1348@lemy.lol 11 months ago
Why is it a hassle? You can just use a pre-built one, and it’s like installing any other APK.
DrZoidbergYes@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There isn’t an official pre build app. The one you get might be fine, but you can’t be sure…
Daiken@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I got tired of trying to install revanced. Just uninstalled YouTube completely and open everything in my opera browser. Blocks ads does the same job.
WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
GrayJay works fine for me tho
dmtalon@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Welcome to the club, I was on the $14.99 Family Premium from YT Red/GPM. I left in a fit to Spotify, but crawled back since I just do not get along with Spotify. It was quite an increase to $22.99, but I literally watch YT as my main source of entertainment, and listen to YT music via Android Auto in my car, as well as through the house all the time. So I am getting a lot of use out of it. but I am not sure I could stomach another increase anytime soon.
Weslee@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Jesus $23?? No thank you! Spotify and FreeTube is good enough for me 😅
QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s the most expensive major service. I couldn’t stomach it at even $20.
dmtalon@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Up to 6 users as it is a family plan but ya it’s pricey
DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 months ago
dmtalon@infosec.pub 11 months ago
I actually have grayjay on my phone (and paid for it). I don’t mind paying for stuff I use.
I’ve also used revances, and smarttube tv. But as I said right now the value is still “ok” but reaching it’s limit for sure.
moitoi@feddit.de 11 months ago
Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Not even close to the experience.
Nulubez@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It went from 10 to 20 on me. Considering all I lost (YT red premium content, google play music, etc) I just canceled then enabled a single user free account I get via Google fi. With money saved, bought family a spotify family plan
Neato@kbin.social 11 months ago
That's with the $110/mo (for 2) Google FI plan right? And it's only for a year.
iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Just get a web browser that can ad block?
disconnectikacio@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Dont pay. -In browser: docs.invidious.io/instances/ ,OR adblock origin. -Androidon newpipe :newpipe.net -Android tv smarttube smarttubeapp.github.io ;)
Pistcow@lemm.ee 11 months ago
grandfathered-ish
blahsay@lemmy.world 11 months ago
F I R E F O X
bitwolf@lemmy.one 11 months ago
Noooo.
Welp, time to go to Vanced now.
Yoz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How much is it now and how much is the increase?
Uniquitous@lemmy.one 11 months ago
Pretty sure I can soak it.
m3t00@lemmy.world 11 months ago
but I still won’t pay. skip skip skip click
spudwart@spudwart.com 11 months ago
Future headline: Youtube Saw Youtube Premium subscriptions dip in January.
isles@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I hope I didn’t miss the wave here: Does anyone else have a solution for their kids? I don’t want them on un-restricted youtube, youtube kids is generally gate-kept enough that I feel comfortable they won’t come across anything immediately damaging. I pay for YouTube family for now to avoid adverts.
aeronmelon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That’s not what Grandfathered means. Basically, original subscribers are being forced onto a new contract.
LilDumpy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ya. I was originally a Google Play music subscriber which got turned into YouTube music, for $9.99usd. Now they’re increasing the cost by like $4 after December. So I moved to the spotify family plan and now I share with my love ones for only a little bit more than the new YT price.
YT music was turning to sit though. It would always play music video audio with long ass shitty intros when the studio album music existed in their catalog. Even with the music video option turned to off.
Stovetop@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, I fell into the same situation. I had a YouTube Music family plan that they told me was no longer grandfathered in, so I also switched to Spotify and have been happy with it. In my case, though, I lucked out because I only needed to keep one other person on the plan with me, so I went with the duo plan instead of the family plan and ended up saving money in the end.
If Google wants me back they can offer ad-free YouTube for $2/mo and that’ll be back as it was. That’s really the only thing I still miss, because god knows the music player itself wasn’t great.
BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
What about ReVanced? Or ViMusic?
bitwolf@lemmy.one 11 months ago
If you were in the beta. It’s 7.99.
I’ve been paying 7.99 since day one of Google Play Music. They added YouTube Red (Premium) shortly after.
Mango@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Why Spotify? They’re the worst streaming platform with the lowest pay for artists.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Grandfathered on the sense that the price increase was delayed compared to new subscribers. They were temporarily grandfathered in at their old rate.
zerofk@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Thank you. I was thoroughly confused by this title and the article’s use of “grandfathered”.
oo1@kbin.social 11 months ago
Maybe It should say grandfathered you tube users are to be estranged.
Bazoogle@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My understanding of grandfathered is that you pay the rate you signed up for, and when it increases, new users pay the higher rate but you keep your rate as long as you stay subscribed. If that is not what you think grandfathered means, what does it mean to you? And if my definition matches yours, how is this not the correct use of grandfathered?
Mango@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You both got it right, but OP got it wrong. They’re not grandfathered if they’re getting the price increase, and they are.