The pirates are back - Anew study from the European Union’s Intellectual Property Office (EUIPO) suggest that online piracy has increased for the first time in years. In fact, piracy rates have bee...

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• Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  2015: Share your Netflix between four people, everyone pays $4 per month, have access to 80% of all online content. The interface is shit but you keep up with it because it is cheap.

  2023: You pay $20 for Netflix, pay $15 for Disney, pay $15 for Hulu, pay $10 for Amazon Prime, $15 for Discovery, $15 for Paramount, $15 for Youtube, have access to 50% of all online content. The interface is still shit and you wonder why you pay for that shit.

  Joe Average: 🏴‍☠️😎🏴‍☠️😎🏴‍☠️😎🏴‍☠️😎🏴‍☠️😎🏴‍☠️ and the interface is easier than ever.

  My 2013 Highest-End Smart-TV barely works with Youtube and no longer with anything else. But Burning Series still works marvellous. Another thing: “Consuming” pirated content is not “illegal” in Germany. It is a violation of private property which the rights owner can sue in a civil court. But as long as you don’t use P2P services where you also upload - which would indeed be a fellony - he can not detect what you do and can not take any action against you - so One-Click-Hosters and Warez-Streaming is totally safe. And if the rights owner could find out about you he could at most send you a cease-and-desist-order with a one-time-fee of at max $100 because it is a minor incident. As far as I know there was never a user of Warez-Streaming who paid anything.

  The only bad thing: DNS is nowadays filtered at the big Telcos and Providers which means I have to change the DNS inside my Routers to Cloudflare and Google. Which are a lot faster anyway.

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  • tobbue@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was always wondering why so few people don’t complain about the interface. It’s abysmal. An absolute minimum of functionality in an unintuitive layout that’s always changing. What the absolute fuck. And all streaming services adopted it.

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  • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I watch streaming stuff on my CRT TV from back in the 90s. Fire stick + HDMI to RCA. I’m not really sure why you bring up old smart TVs. You can do most anything with a Fire stick, or similar.

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    • Blackrook7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      True, but it’s annoying my old smart TV isn’t smart anymore. It’s just a regular TV with a chromecast now.

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  • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not that they didn’t try. Way back when Napster was still a thing, some power users with shelves full of downloaded music got mail with outrageous fines upwards of 25,000€. The music studios just lost these cases in front of court because they couldn’t proof that it’s an appropriate request.

    At least that’s what I think how it went down. Quite a while ago, so memory’s foggy.

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• dannym@lemmy.escapebigtech.info ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I get movies and TV shows from the digital high seas because it’s easier, and I openly admit this with my real name on my Lemmy profile.

  Currently, I’m subscribed to four streaming platforms: Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Crunchyroll, and Disney+. Despite this, I resort to pirating every piece of content I watch.

  The simplicity of searching a title on Radarr or Sonarr and clicking ‘add’ vastly outshines the cumbersome process on legal platforms.

  These sites are all flawed, tend to harbor more spyware than Windows and present a usability nightmare compared to the streamlined interface of Jellyfin.

  In terms of ethics, my conscience is clear. If a movie or TV show isn’t available on the platforms I subscribe to, it’s a clear sign they aren’t interested in my money.

  I see absolutely no problem with paying for what I watch; financial constraints aren’t the issue. The crux of the matter lies in the user experience, which is undeniably superior and hassle-free on the open waves of the digital ocean.

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  • kent_eh@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If a movie or TV show isn’t available on the platforms I subscribe to, it’s a clear sign they aren’t interested in my money.

    That’s always been my validation for pirating stuff that isn’t available in my region.

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  • Queens113@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m old school and just use a private tracker… then plex everything to my TV. I tried using sonar but my dumb ass couldn’t set it up…

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    • Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Same. It’s extra steps. But simpler. Although I am considering switching to jellyfin

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  • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s awesome that so many people are using things like the services you use, but even in the most basic old-school way that I dl things to watch I find it monumentally better than trying to deal with Netflix or whatever other service. I can have the full file, no buffering or compression, with all the settings of VLC no matter what the media is. And with my internet speed I can download things more quickly than I can even get snacks ready.

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• irotsoma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean, if people can’t afford to get the content they want, and you make shitty products with limited content, then piracy is the only way to get some of the content. So why not just get all of it that way, especially since the services are less user friendly than pirating is inconvenient.

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  • MashedTech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Stremio isn’t perfect, but with the Torrentio plugin it has been going great. I also sometimes find content with qBitorrent and the Search plugin. It’s just so easy to find what I want at the quality I want to watch.

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• Reality_Suit@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If executives were hurting financially like everyone else, we would be more sympathetic. Pirate everything! Yes, if I could download a car, I would.

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Image

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• WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For me it’s a price and convenience if we talk about media streaming.

  If we talk about games - I am playing on Linux and Alan Wake 2, which I recently pirated, is selling on Epic Games and this store has no Linux support at all. Steam has, but this game is not on Steam. If it were on Steam I’d have probably bought it.

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  • theangryseal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I quit pirating games ages ago primarily because I’ll never play anything of everything is endlessly available to me.

    That said, I have a Steam Deck and if I want to play a game that is playable but isn’t available to me. Yarrrrrr.

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    • WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The older I get, the more I think so too.

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  • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t really understand. The devs built a version of their game for Linux, but don’t actually provide any legal way of playing the game on Linux?

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    • Astaroth@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Steam has proton which lets you play Windows games on Linux.

      You can use Lutris, Heroic Launcher, Bottles, or just plain WINE as well but for a lot of people the easiest way they know is to just add a non-steam game to steam.

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    • SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Probably just using proton

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  • dukatos@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lutris?

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    • mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Just wanna throw in heroic games launcher. Epic, GoG, and Amazon.

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• Rosco@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m planning to make a seedbox with AirVPN running 24/7 on a Pi. I’ve been a big leecher for a while now and I want to give back to the community. Fuck streaming services, if I can’t own the product after I bought then it’s not worth buying.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you already have a Linux/BSD server, say Nextcloud, HomeAssistant, etc, you could just use a container instead of a Pi.

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    • Rosco@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t own a server yet, that’s why I’m planning to get a Pi to get the seedbox running and do some other fun projects.

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  • Tatsumoto@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Dont use VPNs where you provide personal information as ISPs and law enforcement can and do request data from those VPN services. Use something like Mullvad (and pay with XMR if you are paranoid :)

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    • Rosco@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I already use Mullvad, but I doesn’t allow portforwarding anymore, sadly. So my uploads speeds are pitiful. As much as I enjoy Mullvad’s simplicity when it comes to accounts, I’ll have to pass.

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    • ManOMorphos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is paid ProtonVPN good for this? It’s got port forwarding and is apparently private, but I can’t tell how willing they would be to provide details to others in a bad scenario.

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• FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  When the world is either ad-supported or locked behind a paywall or, worse, both, this is what will happen.

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  • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Adds would be fine if they were unobtrusive, sidebar adds or hell those little bars that scroll across the bottom 10th of the screen like a news headline I’d be fine with those things. Its when the adds actually obstruct my ability to enjoy the product that I take issue.

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    • fox_the_apprentice@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ads that permit code to run locally are a security hazard. That’s most ad platforms.

      I’d deal with intrusive ads just fine (and when I was younger I used to), but I run an adblocker and noscript for security reasons. Unobtrusive ads don’t change that for me.

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    • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder how many people have an ad tolerance like me. Those ads are fine for most people but I get so annoyed by even that. The entire concept upsets me. I don’t want to be told what I’m supposed to want, ever, by some corporation unless I ask them.

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• Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah, because it’s easier and cheaper to open up the stream.io app and watch whatever I want whenever I want, than to subscribe to multitudes of platforms of which the majority of the content is garbage.

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  • Pher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You probably meant strem.io

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Whoops and you are right.

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because if there was even one large streaming service that wasn’t going through shitification for profit I wouldn’t turn to the high seas.

  Just one. Untill then I’ll pay creators directly and pirate the rest.

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• tautropfen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Source form the EUIPO since it is not linked in the article: …europa.eu/…/online-copyright-infringement-in-eu-…

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• thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Back? Baby I never left

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  • GiovaMC@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Arrrr!!!

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• banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We paid for streaming networks but our rural internet was too shitty to stream, so I’d torrent everything instead. Now we have good internet but all the streaming services are too expensive to sign up for. Just like the old days, the only available solution to see what you want at a fair price is piracy.

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• EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free! Yarr harr fiddle dee dee!

  MULLVAD! WIREGUARD! QUANTUM SECURE ENCRYPTION!

  Sorry I have Tourette’s syndrome.

  QBITTORRENT!

  ADNAUSEAM! AVAILABLE FOR CHROMIUM BASED BROWSERS TOO!

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  • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No more port forwarding with Mullvad. You’ll have to use another.

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    • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Port forwarding is a security hole.

      Torrenting works without it just fine.

      Not that I would ever pirate anything. That’s would be immoral! After all…Billionaires schemed, lied and stepped on SO MANY people to get to be where they are!

      How are billionaires supposed to afford their giant palace-sized mansions or their diamond-dusted platinum-plated Ferraris with ivory interiors if we pirate things?

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  • TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    LOLLIMEWIRE

    Man, I forgot how old that was. RIP to the guy as well, such a genuine bloke, IRL moreso than the Sportacus character.

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• lixus98@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah increase prices due to piracy losses, I’m sure that won’t cause even more people to pirate

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I downloaded new content for the first time in a while, recently. It’s on a streaming service that I don’t want (I pay for several).

  I’d only been downloading things that I couldn’t stream (* Cannibal Holocaust*, for example) for a long time. I stopped downloading for a number of years. Guess what? My bittorrent client still works. After a number of years buying everything on blu-ray discs (and ripping to Plex) and renting from streaming services, I’m on my way to where I was. I’ll still pay for convenience. I’m done fucking around with complications.

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  • theragu40@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve just started dipping my toes back into the waters again too, also after many years of downloading absolutely nothing. It’s a combo of things prompting me.

    First, costs have gotten out of control and prices just keep creeping up. This is happening at the same time as content libraries per service dwindle. I make more money than I used to, yet it feels like it goes not nearly as far these days with prices of everything skyrocketing.

    Second, it’s becoming a bigger and bigger pain in the ass to find things. Part of the issue for me is interfaces (though I can get around that, generally). Part is content shuffling from one service to the next. But a big issue is all the trash content companies like Netflix are shitting out to pad their libraries. You have to wade through oceans of garbage to find a single thing worth your time. This experience is exactly why I dropped traditional cable years ago! I hate endless filler trash. I don’t want the illusion of a large library to make it seem like I’m getting value. I just want actual good content.

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• slurpeesoforion@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Hoist the colors!

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or lack of…

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t understand the term either when the Jolly Roger is black and white, but the phrase is what was used when talking about raising your real flag (instead of a fake while you got close enough to the other ship to attack).

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• hubobes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Second, piracy is illega

  Not for me :)

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  • newIdentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not illegal if you don’t get caught

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  • kleenbhole@lemy.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    what county?

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    • hubobes@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Switzerland

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• set_secret@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  what a trash article, that honestly sounded AI generated. depriving humans of their journalists income.

  Also piracy isn’t illegal in many countries. for example in Australia it’s a civil offence that must be persued in the courts by the company that alleged the offence occurred.

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• Deftdrummer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Only thing I’ve been paying for since 2012 has been a VPN. Problem solved.

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• WestHej@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  After reading this and some comments, what I’ve gleaned is that the article is bullshit and piracy truly acts as a competitor in 2 areas - service and content. Many shows are exclusive to a particular platform and therefore the platforms do not need to compete in that area. For the service side of things, I think there has been genuine innovation but it has become stagnant in the last few years and they are referring to old bad practices.

  It feels like there is active collusion but perhaps it’s just a result of a poorly regulated industry which allows for pseudo-monopolies. My hope would be for regulation mandating that all content must have a second provider, i.e. no more exclusive shows. Give me stranger things on Amazon prime as well. This would force each streaming company to complete for users and still allow the creators to get paid appropriately. I don’t know if this would end up making streaming services unviable but it’s certainly a lot faster and more consumer friendly.

  Would love to hear about the potential downside to this proposal.

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  • PreciousPig@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The downside would be getting less content and perhaps worse content, as the platforms would not spend the exorbitant levels on content anymore.

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• gon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh no :c online piracy! ARR BITCH

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  • CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    being a pirate is allright to be

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• Lightrider@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Defeat the fucking capitalists

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  • Mchugho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Make sure nobody gets paid for anything so that nobody bothers making the content you enjoy??

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    • thatWeirdGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d gladly support the content creators, be it with merch, Kickstarter, patreon or any other direct way. Giving the money to the corporate balls of greed is another story

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• don@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell ya!

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• Pika@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  really imagine that, services splitting combined prices rising leads to increased piracy. Shocker

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• JewGoblin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  we will never be defeated

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• p5f20w18k@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I feel partially responsible for this, and I’m not complaining

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• eddietrax@dmv.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Never left

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  • SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Same. I stopped pirating music and games because Deezer and Steam are so convenient, but as long as there isn’t a way to watch most movies and shows on a single service, I won’t stop pirating. The music industry figured it out and all music streaming services have more or less the same catalog; why can’t movie studios do the same?

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    • jantin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe because producing music costs pennies compared to producing movies and then people are much likely to listen to the same few tracks for days on end, than they are to watch the same movie for days on end. Music studios may not be too jealous about access because they want to let people listen to their essentially free library in as many places as possible. Movie studios are tens of millions in the red for their big productions and don’t want to share incomes too widely.

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• SacrificedBeans@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Back? From where? looks around to make sure that in same place

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• csolisr@communities.azkware.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m surprised that so few people decide to follow the spirit of the law and, just, boycott media instead.

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  • Kanzar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bread and circuses, and peer pressure means you can’t just settle for the free circus material you can get at the library or even just for free online.

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  • Iceman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Im not. Relative poverty nor some moralist rational won’t stop most of us from experiencing culture and media we are interested in.

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    • csolisr@communities.azkware.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or more accurately, experiencing culture and media that social pressure coaxes you into being interested in.

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• hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Define stealing digital content.

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  • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As I heard someone else put it once, “If paying for it doesn’t confer ownership, how can pirating it be theft?”

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    • filcuk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They’ve confused ownership with renting at some point and just stuck with it

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    • hiremenot_recruiter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s perfect. There was a thread not too long ago discussing how Amazon Prime removed am item from someone’s media library and gave them $5 as “compensation”. Imagine someone coming into your house and taking something they don’t sell anymore and leaving 5 bucks on your kitchen counter for your troubles. So many people in this world want their cake and eat it too, you can’t have it both ways. If it was agreed that buying a digital asset conferred some type of ownership, they might have an argument now. They made their bed, now they can piss off and do what they want with it, it’s theirs to do with as they please because we can never own a part of it.

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  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Copying is not theft 🎵

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