Submitted 1 year ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website to risa@startrek.website
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I’d contend that the O’Brien one needs to be changed slightly.
O’Brien foolishly believes there is something which cannot be taken from him. It is taken away from him while forcing him to endure incomprehensible levels of psychological and emotional torment.
There’s a post I saw ages ago which said a lot of O’Brien episodes can also be summarized as “Watch the Irishman suffer” and that has never really left my brain. Just living there rent free.
I always love the Watch the Irishman Suffer episodes.
I would also personally modify the Quark one, because sometimes they show his (repressed) compassionate side.
And sometimes he takes the dignity of everyone else down along with his own.
Yeah he’s definitely shown to have a soft spot, it’s just that he views it as a moral failing, and not a redeeming characteristic
Very fair point. It’s rare but it does exist somewhere under all of that makeu- I mean flesh.
It is surprising how much PTSD he has for someone who’s just supposed to fix the ship
That’s why he’s so good at fixing things. He can’t fix himself, so he puts all his effort into fixing everything around him instead.
Alternative episode: Sisko believes that he can solve something in the normal, intended way and not a horrible, fucked up way. He solves it with baseball.
The one thing that I always remember about Jake Sisko was an episode where he was trying to hide something from his dad, and at the end of the episode, dear old dad catches him trying to teach a young Ferengi how to read.
Everyone in-universe feels about Jake the way that everyone out of universe feels about Wesley.
Kai Winn shows up and ruins the episode
You mean enhances the episode with her peerless villainy.
Kai Winn shows up and ruins the episode everyone’s day.
For us, the audience, the episodes are great. For our lovely characters, not so much.
This woman won an Oscar, a Golden Globe, and a BAFTA for playing Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest. She’s so good at acting you literally dislike her character. She makes you uncomfortable.
My child, don’t stray from the path that the Prophets have laid out for you.
Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack.
—Rule of Acquisition 109
- Quark believes that he has made some profit. He loses it.
Rom: “Well brother, I suppose the real profit was the friends we made along the way.”
Quark: “What?! No. I’m docking your pay for that.”
I saw that one last night, “The Abandoned”.
If you don’t need money, then you certainly don’t need mine.
Also occasionally we remember the Marquis exist and have an episode about them. Sisco comes up with basically the same solution as always, but at least it’s not the Dominion.
I haven’t yet been able to watch DS9 from beginning to end … I’ve seen episodes here and there but never saw the entirety.
So my question is
What about these Garrick episodes I keep hearing about?
From someone who did the same: there is no way to understand what DS9 is about without watching it end to end, it's just designed differently than TNG or TOS or Voyager, which were made for people to catch individual episodes and feel like they watched something. DS9 has intricate plot points that expand over an entire season, and then on into the next. I thought I knew what the show was about, but I was so very very, wonderfully wrong! Instead of it being my least favorite, I see now that it's the deepest of them all, though they all have their individual contributions, especially for the historical time they were released in.
So my advice is to wait until you have a few hours, then watch all of season 1. You'll be glad you did, and can decide when to find time to continue with season 2.
Learning about Garak will be infinitely more satisfying that way:-). He is one of the most "interesting" characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.
OK FINE I will watch DS9 again, convinced me.
Friggin Risa strikes again.
He is one of the most “interesting” characters on the show, but really when you think about it, they all are.
To borrow a quote from B5, “No one here is exactly what he appears.”
Best reply I’ve ever recieved on the question. Thanks for that.
There’s only two of us in the house and only one of us like watching Star Trek which makes it very hard to find time to watch on my own. We like watching TV and movies together but when your significant other doesn’t like what you like, it isn’t easy to watch what you want on your own time.
I think the estimate is that DS9 has 126 hours of content across all episodes … now I just need to set aside about five days alone and without sleep to be able to watch it all.
Thanks again for the great response!
Yup I have to save this post. I agree with folks about Quark, however I’ll add the wrinkle that the things that make Quark grow emotionally only serve too shred his dignity among the Ferengi.
#1. the gifted child isn’t
#2. the ungifted child is
#3. horny physics war
#4. what if jesus saved palestine?
Quark only had that shred of dignity because he planned to sell it for the highest bidder like any good ferengi would.
😢
loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
Oh man.
Quark is absolutely backwards: Quark believes he has no dignity and is a heartless profiteer. He turns out he is an empathetic lovable guy with dignity.
Infynis@midwest.social 1 year ago
The Grilka episodes show this best. The House of Quark is an honorable one.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Qplah! Glory to the house of Quark! The only one to teach Gowron how to use Microsoft Excel
samus12345@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Quark: I should’ve listened to my cousin Gaila. He said to me, “Quark, I’ve got one word for you…weapons.” No one ever went broke selling weapons. But did I take his advice? No. And why not? Because I’m a people person. I like interacting with my customers. Like you and I are doing right now. Talking to each other, getting to know one another…
Garak: I can see the attraction…for you.
Quark: But when you’re dealing in weapons, buyers aren’t interested in casual conversation. They just want their merchandise, no questions asked. It’s so impersonal.
Garak: Your charms would be wasted.
Quark: Exactly. So now Gaila owns his own moon, and I’m staring into the abyss. And the worst part is, my only hope for salvation is the Federation.
EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 year ago
Hard for them not to when you’re the former Grand Nagus, step son of the former long time Grand Nagus, and brother of the new Grand Nagus.
I’m sure Moogy helped him out to once Rom passed a few reforms.
setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I haven’t counted, but I have a suspicion that of the main cast Quark kills more Jem’Hader on screen than any other character, except for maybe Worf.
Seriously. Watch with that in mind.