Microsoft develops ultra durable glass plates that can store several TBs of data for 10000 years

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• Disaster@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I really don’t care until I can buy one. In the meantime I have a few hdd’s and an old LTO4 drive…

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  • Motavader@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Article says the glass plates can only be written once, so don’t toss out your hdd just yet

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    • computergeek125@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They could replace WORM storage, and since the person you responded to mentioned LTO, WORM may be possible with their data set since LTO is a comparatively slow media.

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• Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Would you eventually be able to get data printed and have the plates sent to you, so you can store them yourself in a safe place?

  This would be a great option for preserving the source media for films and videos, for example. Not just the finished product, but every take etc.

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• endlessmeddler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • Jaggle@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Why would the average consumer need to store data for 10000 years?

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    • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There can only be one.

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  • Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Its read only, so it would be like an old CD-ROM, once you write the data can’t alter or overwrite it.

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• son_named_bort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What’ll happen after 10,001 years?

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  • Echrichor@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Planned obsolescence

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  • CsikosPite@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Kill itself

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  • Demdaru@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Cleaning crew finally finds a way to make the glass clean.

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  • Supanova@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Universe ends.

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• DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  What are you going to read it with? Unless it’s photographically reduced text, like microfiche, it’s unlikely that the computer hardware and software will still exist.

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  • InvertedParallax@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nobody uses a 6502 with commodore basic anymore either, I can still pop on an emulator in about 10 seconds to run a game from that era.

    Have some information there to build a reader, we can read hieroglyphics and cuneiform and that’s older, more primitive and only written in a few places by a few people.

    This is pretty doable.

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  • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I want to know how many times they had to test it before they found one that lasted so long

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• RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  In 10k years, there either won’t be anyone left to read them, or the technology at the time won’t be able to read them.

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  • lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you want something to last 1000 years you design it to last 10k. In 1000 years, the descendants of the ultra rich will come out of their bunkers with the technology to read these chips.

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  • z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The question is will it be because we’ve advanced so far beyond that level of computing, or because we’ve had WW3 and are back playing with rocks and fire?

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    • RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some version of the latter is far more likely.

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• kromem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I can already see the future where warlords fight over the pretty glass buried in vaults across the land so they can whittle it down into jewelry they use to decorate the skull chalices of their enemies in order to pour out libations to the magic forces from the sky that govern their lives…

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• Mandy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  i find these things cool and all but any company worth having things archived already fucked it up so much that theres not much left TO archive

  at least ti feels like it

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• slowroll@r.nf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  is this Read Write or read only?

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  • rmuk@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    WORM: Write Once, Read Many.

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    • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Write once, cut twice

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  • grandkaiser@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You can write to it…

    once

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    • stringere@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      WORM drive? Write Once Read Many

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• DudeDudenson@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ah so that’s what those traslucid bricks where in star trek!

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• uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Didn’t intel make same thing few years ago?

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• crystalmerchant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Gonna need a full 10,000 year UAT period thanks

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• Hubi@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I hope this will end up being available to regular consumers one day and not just as an expensive enterprise solution.

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  • GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe if we build it for ourselves. Looks beautifully simple. The encoding is probably a little trick but we can get there.

    Just need a laser that can make marks in glass at different depth.

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    • z00s@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Doesn’t sound impossible, CD burners for home consumers would once have been thought of as an outlandish idea

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• tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  10,000 years is kinda hard to prove without a time machine, but sounds useful for long term archival storage.

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  • Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If we know that the material can go 10k years without degradation, which is something we can know, then it can last that long. Will it be practically possible to store it in a way that will allow for the maximum amount of time before the material begins to degrade? That’s a whole other thing.

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• JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I remember reading abiut this possibly 10 years ago or more. It’s insane how long it’s been in development

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  • kromem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    0.1% of the intended storage duration?

    Given the 20 years of development between the first VTR and VHS, the 100% development to storage lifeline of that technology seems pretty large in comparison.

    Also, how silly would it be if we put things into glass for 10,000 years and then 5 years later there’s a format war like VHS vs Beta and we need to redo everything?

    Intelligent life in the future will find 10,000 year old records from humanity and be so frustrated by the multiple competing formats over the first 100 of those years that they won’t even bother trying to read it.

    Of all the things to take time with to get right, extremely long term storage seems like one of the more prudent.

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• TvanBuuren@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unless you put it in the dishwasher to often.

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• ItsMeForRealNow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is best for long term photo and and video storage. Even commercial ones. And for the internet archive as well.

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• Dasnap@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ll personally make sure that the historians of the distant future are aware of 21st century micropenis.

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  • Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “This was man before genetically engineered super penises. Wars were fought people were killed. We cannot go backwards, we must move forward.”

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• foggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Archeologists will find these in 1000 years and think it’s just nice glass.

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• alvvayson@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sounds an awful like the Millennium Disc.

  Though I guess it has higher capacity and even longer life, but the article doesn’t have much details.

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• cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Thats not a brag for them if you catch my drift. More like a scaring-off thing

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