YouTube isn't happy you're using ad blockers — and it's doing something about it

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• moitoi@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Greedy companies like youtube thinking tracking people is fine don’t need my money. I won’t end using adblockers.

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• qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Too bad. If we can’t block these ads, everyone will go elsewhere

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  • PorkTaco@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wish that were true.

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    • UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well you could download the videos instead of streaming, that would get rid of ads too.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh? Totally explains why Vimeo is on track to control the space. Wait…

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    • clegko@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I read that as “Venmo” the first time and was so confused.

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  • AAA@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Go where exactly?

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• westyvw@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ok. So why aren’t we all using peertube?

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If more content creators moved to it, more viewers would switch to it.

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    • compiled_lemmite@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In highschool, my friend group of maybe a dozen had an sms group chat. I spent months suggesting that we switch to signal, but to no avail. Eventually, I convinced one person to join, which made it a bit more convincing for another, and then a few more, and so on. Signal is now the primary means of communication for this friend group, showing that change is indeed possible. Keep fighting the good fight until the rise of these alternative platforms becomes inevitable.

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    • themajesticdodo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Am I out of touch?

      No. It’s other peoples fault.

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  • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because it currently sucks?

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    • westyvw@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What sucks about it for you?

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    • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I like the idea, but for some reason on both my laptops its usage can shut down the internet connection until I reboot. It happens sometimes with regular torrents, but with Peertube it is a consistent issue.

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• Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Between uYouPlus on my Apple devices and SmartTubeNext on my Android devices, I’ve almost never seen an ad on YouTube. I’d just stop using the service if I started to see them in any real number.

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Speaking in general, and not about you specifically…

    but I’ve seen so many people scream “if company does X, I’m not buying/using their product anymore!”

    And company does X

    And they scream about it for… a week, then go back to using it, and buying the next version, and singing its praises after the controversy passes.

    So I have no faith that the general consumer has the willpower or the give a fuck to stop using these things.

    and individuals like you and me, who do actually stop using them, are so rare as to not actually matter.

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    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re absolutely not wrong. I have the luxury of just using YouTube to watch golf videos and some niche hobby stuff; I clock in at less than a few hours a week. So, I could easily use that time on the treadmill or riding in a car to read, watch scripted media, or write my DND modules. My consumption of YT is far below most, so I’m certainly an outlier.

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• HurlingDurling@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  *Laughs in nebula

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  • poopkins@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’re paying for Nebula. If you don’t want ads in YouTube, you can pay for Premium.

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    • HurlingDurling@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I prefer to pay to the creators more than I want to fund a corporation

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    • iheartneopets@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nebula has much cheaper pricing than YouTube, and gives creators much more control over their content. I’d rather give my money to them than a company that spends every waking moment thinking about how to screw me and its creators over.

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• Daft_ish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t worry, I did something about youtube. That being Uninstaller and only go if I absolutely have to.

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• cyd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m pretty happy paying for YouTube Premium; it seems like a fair deal given how much my family uses YouTube. But I’m worried that sooner or later YouTube Premium is gonna get Google Graveyarded, or they’re going to insert ads anyway.

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  • CosmoNova@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Youtube premium is a very short sighted band-aid solution. Because the more people sign up for it early, the more expensive and/or less convenient it will become later when the ‘market is saturated’ (meaning there’s no one left who wants to sign up for it). When they can’t grow their income through more users, they’ll ramp up prices and shave off services. It’s happening everywhere already and in the end you’ll wish everyone advocated for adblockers a little more because by the time you’re fed up with their pricing, it might already be too late to go back.

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    • myusernameblows@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is the real insidious thing about internet enshittification. It’s run by publicly traded corporations so it’s not enough just to squeeze every possible dollar out of your customers, you have to keep ramping up the squeeze. Even once you’re bringing in billions and billions of pure profit with a product that everyone loves, you have an actual legal duty to your shareholders to make it worse in an effort to try to grow the profit even more

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  • dan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Guaranteed they’d find a way to double dip. Price gouging, restricting content behind further paywalls, adding ads anyway… absolutely they’ve investigated all those and undoubtedly more.

    Switch to Firefox, Chrome is their biggest lever to force this kind of stuff onto people. While Firefox exists and it remains uncool for them to block it they’ll have to compete against piracy and adblockers which will limit their ability to aggressively monetise.

    Switch to firefox!

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  • CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just look at where Netflix and Amazon Prime are going.

    The days of YouTube premium being ad free are numbered. I suspect 2-3 years before it’s announced, rolled back, and then a stealth rollout is done.

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    • waitmarks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I consider it already not ad free considering how many video creators shove sponsored segments in all their videos.

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  • virtualbriefcase@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    YT isn’t going to drop premium any time soon. Subscriptions are astronomically more revenue generating then ads, and given YT was always operating at a loss until they stopped reporting revenue altogether premium will probably be the only route to scrape by.

    Not to say they can’t enshittify it by raising prices and adding restrictions, but I can’t see them doing anything but trying to force more people to it.

    I paid for it for a bit a while back, and it was decent. Of course free tools give considerably better features (adblock, sponsor block, DRM free downloads, better privacy). That and personally not wanting to financially support YT for a variety of reasons has kept me away from it for a long time.

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• archonet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  laughs in DNS ad blocker

  chortles in SponsorBlock

  guffaws in AdNauseam

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  • spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In this case DNS blocking is useless tho

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• Smacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d be down to pay YouTube to watch 2k - 4k videos, I’m shocked they allow people to upload videos on that resolution to begin with.

  Now, if they start intentionally blocking adblockers, or have a way to force around them (like Twitch) I’d immediately stop using it (like Twitch)

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• Blackdoomax@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I read that 2% uses adblocks…

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• virtualbriefcase@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I do find it a bit funny that their adblock-block is to my knowledge just client side JavaScript. Ya’ know, the kinda stuff adblock is built to cutout.

  Unless they’re going to be splicing up videos to put the ads into the same file (which would be astronomically resource intensive) or only allow YouTube in app and in seriously locked down Web-Environtment-Integrity browsers it’ll be impossible prevent a device from running or not running code as the user see’s fit.

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  • kalpol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    only allow YouTube in app and in seriously locked down Web-Environtment-Integrity browsers

    This is exactly what they want. Remember their github with the OS integrity authentication service? They’re already there with phones and Chromebooks, now they have to control PCs.

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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is corrext, and uBlock Origin has already had an update that works around the popup.

    This is a game of cat and mouse that Google simply can’t win. I’m fairly certain they’ll add native code in Chrome for detecting ad blockers within the next 12 months.

    I can also see a world in which they eventually block third party browsers from accessing it too. Even then there will still always be ways of working around it like revanced, custom chromium builds and so on.

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    • planish@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      native code in Chrome for detecting ad blockers within the next 12 months.

      Just a new header for whether the site allows extensions that are not Google Web Protect certified.

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• Destraight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They haven’t done anything. I had a good YouTube binge last night, and my ublocker worked fine. Google didn’t do anything

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  • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They are only rolling this out to a subset of people.

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• AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, we got to the point where it’s too much so…

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• cricket97@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  anyone have a good chrome extension that blocks youtube ads? The one I was using was just flagged for malware

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  • rex30303@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    UBlock Origin

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  • Custoslibera@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah. Don’t use chrome and use Firefox. Then install the Adblock extension on Firefox.

    Stop supporting google by using their browser.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The problem here is Chrome - guess what, the company that brought you YT also makes the Browser that prevents ad blocking by simply calling ad blocking software “rogue”.

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  • x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Firefox and ubo

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  • Jikal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve been using this one and its been working well so far

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• nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I watch YouTube from my TV, and my Pihole can’t block the ads. So I splurged for premium (which costs about $5/month where I’m at) and would do it again in a heartbeat. Way better experience.

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is this account run by Google intern? Look at how it’s written.

    “Also, I love listening to the newest tunes. And with YouTube music, I can get songs, subscribe to podcasts, and more!”

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    • sardon@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Do you really think a google intern is going to bring up Pihole? Not everything is a conspiracy.

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    • nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, I hate YouTube music

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  • Lord_Wunderfrog@lemmy.fmhy.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s crazy, it’s like 16 euro a month where I am.

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    • nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Oh man. I would think twice if my cost was that high.

      I do believe good creators should be compensated so I think of this subscription as the alternative to letting the advertisers pay them to get in front of me. I think ad blockers result in the creator not getting the ad revenue, right?

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• NightLily@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Continues not using ad block anyway.

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  • Tick_Dracy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Good boy! Pichai is very proud of you (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞

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• NaturalBeauty@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I would consider turning my ad blocker down or off if:

    1. Ads got less annoying. Many ads are profoundly obnoxious.
    2. Ads got shorter. I really don’t need your bizarre little comedy skit; some of my favorite ads are just "Hey Burger King is selling a burger with onion rings and barbecue sauce on it. You should be able to sell me a cheeseburger in ten seconds.
    3. Ads got less repetitive. I have blacklisted so many products and companies because of overly repeated ads. I will not forgive Dr. Squatch for reminding me every minute that I’m not a dish, I’m a maaan.
    4. Youtubers form a union and begin collective bargaining with Alphabet the way the record labels do.
    5. Political and pharmaceutical ads are outright banned from all forms of broadcast. I absolutely will not ask my doctor about maximum strength shitabrick, and if I wanted to be lied to I’d ask my mother how I look.

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    • 1847953620@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Your mother’s pretty honest about how I look

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• pewnit@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This may be a hot take but I think it’s quite important for YouTube to be profitable because of how difficult running a video platform is already causing there to be no competition. Yeah, I would 100% prefer YouTube without ads (I pay for Premium) and I would love for there to be competition but considering the state of video streaming and how expensive it gets, I’m all for YouTube getting money.

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  • bachatero@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think if it’s not possible to run anymore without ads, then it’s time to shutter YT and let the competition fill in the gaps.

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    • pewnit@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The problem is that running a video streaming platform is too expensive for there to be competition and YouTube is the only platform with the user base to be able to do it while being profitable. If you want no ads because ads are annoying but you also don’t want to pay for premium, you’re advocating for piracy (which I’m not against either), but if you expect them to keep the servers running even after that, you’re not living in reality

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• Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A wild Peertube appears

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• answersplease77@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Twitch ads are just as bad

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  • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Twitch is worse, in general.

    At least youtube tends to crack down on the pornography on their site, while twitch features it on the front page and actively advertises it

    Literally some almost completely naked OnlyFans reject on the front page, right now, doing jumping jacks to make her tits flop about.

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    • answersplease77@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      True that but I was talking about how youtube allows you to skip ad after 10-20 seconds while twitch has 5 mins unskipable ads. Youtube streaming is better (you can skip and rewind any time) and pays streamers more too. Their ads are both repeatitive cancer though

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• Gorgeous_Sloth@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh no!

  Anyway.

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• IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Somewhat related, how has people’s experience with Viewtube been?

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• irotsoma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Good thing I avoid YouTube as much as possible.

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t think third party apps and services are effected as if now.

  We need an alternative

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• uhmbah@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can’t remember the last time I visited youtube.

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