SpaceX projected 20 million Starlink users by 2022—it ended up with 1 million

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Starlink is perfect for nationalization. Internet is. Infact, nationalize all utilities. Yes, internet should be a utility at this point. It should not be run for profit.

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  • WaxedWookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    After Musk disabled Starlink to aid Russia, a hostile state in their efforts to invade a sovereign democracy, it should have been clear to everyone that Musk poses a very real security threat, and Starlink should have been seized and nationalised.

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    • Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This fiasco is a glaring example that no one indvidual shold be able to accrue enough wealth to effect entire countries.

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its insane to live through Gilded Age 2. The cycle repeats.

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Y’all all really think there isn’t something more going on there? Like people being like “Crimea is Ukraine!” Well yes I agree with the sentiment, even the US government doesn’t consider crimea to be Ukraine

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  • mailerdaemon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As someone who lives in a country that formerly had a nationalized phone company in the internet age, and currently has a nationalized power company and airline. Dear God fuck no!

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    • demlet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I say we let him build up a huge satellite fleet and then force him to sell a huge chunk of it under antitrust law.

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• Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was the perfect target for the service, the wife and I went as far as downloading the app to get telemetry from our house, we were like 20% covered and decided to hold off just a little while longer. Then musk went jacking it on the corner in San Diego levels crazy, we pay just about as much for our current Internet (and it’s mobile hotspot backup plan in case the internet goes out and we have vital work that needs to be done, or I need some low latency gaming time) which is 5 mb/s on its best days, and we’re very happy to not be supporting that Russian stooge.

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  • PatFussy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    5mb is SD? You dont get cox?

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• Spacebar@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My internet where I live is through cable and it’s terrible. Bad. Outtages all of the time. Down for days at times. So I switched to starlink. It’s fine. Works great EXCEPT WHEN IT RAINS HEAVILY.

  Heavy rain blocks the signal. Elon Musk owns it.

  Now, I have a t-mobile hotspot. It’s only $50 per month as opposed to the $110 for Starlink.

  If you have no other decent option, Starlink is amazing. If you have other options, don’t give Musk your money.

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Interesting, I had satellite Internet through explorer and only the heaviest of blizzards would cut access to the internet. Had an uptime of probably 99% through the year. Wonder why satellites further away wouldn’t have a problem with rain but starlink ones do.

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    • randombullet@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Different wave lengths.

      Shorter wave lengths are more affected by rain.

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    • Bobert@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would hazard a guess that they were running a geostationary setup rather than Starlinks LEO approach.

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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was really wondering about whether affecting the signal, that is disappointing as hell to learn. Thanks

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• xts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “ I think that you will be able to fall asleep in a Tesla, is about two years away” Elon Musk, 2017

  Yeah you shouldn’t believe anything this guy or his companies say lol

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  • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think that you will be able to fall asleep in a Tesla, is about two years away

    I mean, you can do that. It’s just not a good idea if you’re the driver

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  • mriguy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You can do that now. But you’ll probably wake up dead. Same in two years.

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    • vitriolix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Dead and arrested at the same time

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve definitely seen articles proofing this was an accurate comment. He didn’t specify what the outcome would be though.

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• 8BitRoadTrip@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Anybody else read the post about Elon musk raw dogging his data center migration ?

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  • learningduck@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Where can I read about that?

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    • thal3s@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The Batshit Crazy Story Of The Day Elon Musk Decided To Personally Rip Servers Out Of A Sacramento Data Center

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• QubaXR@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lol, sure Elon. Take all my data. Not in a million years.

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• Uniquitous@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They’re about to lose another one. We finally got fiber run to our area, so now I have internet that doesn’t zone out every 5 - 10 minutes to find another satellite. Canceling Starlink next week. Fuck you Elon.

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• KJ118@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was hyped when I first learned about starlink, finally I wouldn’t be stuck with 1 Mbps from ATT, then my power co-op announced it would be running gig fiber to all customers homes.

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  • havokdj@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    God, that is going to be a humungous upgrade

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• InvaderDJ@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  One thing this article doesn’t get into is whether it is an issue of customer demand or incorrect estimates on how many customers Starlink can handle.

  Musk is a dumbass, unserious douche. But from everyone I’ve heard from who has Starlink and NEEDS it, it’s a godsend. For rural and mobile users (van life, RVs, boats, etc) I don’t think there is a better option.

  Another question is whether this Starlink service should be nationalized or at least duplicated by other countries. I’m uncomfortable with it being used for war as it is honestly. It’s a supposed civilian, consumer aimed service that I think arguably can be considered a military target right now. Countries like Russia could make an argument for attacking these satellites. And for countries like Ukraine that are relying on it, having it being at the whims of someone like Musk also seems like it isn’t optimal.

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  • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Countries like Russia could make an argument for attacking these satellites.

    Russia’s best shot would be accidentally crashing a lunar lander into one.

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    • charliespider@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They’d probably fail at that too

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    • Illuminostro@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Like when the US crashed a lander into Mars. Good times.

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  • PFShady@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    My parents have it because of where they live. The only other option they had was century link DSL at 1.5Mbps. Now she can watch streaming services, work from home, etc. The service has been great, Musk is a douche.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s a supposed civilian, consumer aimed service

    The internet was invented to wage war. It’s not an admirable goal, but it’s what it was made for. Only after the fact did we turn it into the banal meme stream it is now. When SpaceX requested permission to the FAA to launch its hundreds of thousands of garbage cans, military infrastructure backup was actually part of the pitch to justify the sky contamination. And military operations are not just about destroying things and killing people. Military operations include rescuing the wounded and safeguarding civilians from harm. Armies need to have good communications for this, to avoid destroying non-military targets, reduce the risk of collateral damage, coordinate evacuations and to defend themselves from the opposing force. A communication network should be a neutral channel, what Musk has done with it is to politicize and weaponize it, like the Russians weaponize medical care, judicial freedom and other things that should be basic human rights but are used to coerce individuals to commit atrocities against others.

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• exohuman@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They haven’t done a great job of marketing it. $100-120 a month isn’t bad and it beats the pants off of all the other satellite internet services.

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  • netburnr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s especially more cost effective than rural wireless ISPs. Those places are straight crooks.

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    • breakingcups@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      As opposed to Elon? 😅

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  • SpliceVW@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Have they needed to? My mom has no high speed internet to her house. She signed up for Starlink like 2 years ago. Still on the waitlist.

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    • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My coworkers mom signed up for it about 1.5 years ago and got connected about a year ago in rural WA. Are you sure you’re still on the list?

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  • Buckshot@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe that’s normal in US but it’s way overpriced in UK. They want £75/mo and I’m paying £35 for 500Mb in a rural area and there’s several different providers to choose from. My sister is even more remote than me and they’re getting fibre this week.

    I could also get unlimited 4G for about £20.

    I don’t know anyone who is using starlink

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    • tankplanker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Its priced at people who wouldn’t get anything more than a few mb in remote areas who have no other choice, rather than a direct competitor against high speed fiber or someone lucky enough to live line of sight to a 5G mast.

      I have fiber at home and starlink for my RV, for travel starlink works perfectly. I have a proper 4g router and external aerial for my van and it never comes close to the speed I get from starlink. I know people who cruise on boats and it works perfectly for them as well (as long as its kept dry).

      Mobile high speed internet where you struggle to get even enough mobile phone signal to make a phone call it has no real competitor at that price point. Boats in particular its transformed the market, it used to be thousands per month for high speed internet at sea with any sort of decent data allowance.

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    • exohuman@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wish the USA had the options you just posted in rural areas. We pay for broadband expansion out of our taxes and they still won’t expand. It’s sad.

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• Rajtinka@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I had Starlink for over a year. They raised the price twice in that time. In addition, it would not play nice with my Uverse streaming service and I would randomly lose my sports and local channels. I live remote, but ended up switching to copper for $50/no and dumped the cable streaming. Since I don’t game, I have not noticed any difference in streaming quality on Netflix or Hulu or Prime. Paying way less than half for copper just made Starlink completely not worth it. The terminal is sitting on a chair in my office…

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• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Projecting” inflated numbers. Or, just, y’know, fraud.

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• LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  1 million and counting down

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  SpaceX’s Starlink division hasn’t come close to meeting customer and revenue projections that the company shared with investors before building the satellite network, according to a Wall Street Journal report published today.

  SpaceX President and COO Gwynne Shotwell said in February that Starlink is expected to turn a profit this year.

  “The majority of the world’s population that the business could serve and that can afford high-speed broadband lives in cities.

  In those regions, Internet service is readily available, usually offers cheaper monthly costs than Starlink and doesn’t require specialized equipment.”

  But in public he has stated more modest ambitions for Starlink, pointing out that low-Earth orbit satellite ventures have a history of going bankrupt.

  One step forward on profitability is that SpaceX says it is no longer selling Starlink user terminals at a loss.

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  The original article contains 654 words, the summary contains 135 words. Saved 79%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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• dsco@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I live less than an hour from Elon and ended up canceling my starlink preorder after eighteen months because I figured it was never going to come.

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• Gingerlegs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d be fired, lol

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• goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  @L4s it’s, like, really expensive and shit.

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  • SpliceVW@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Compared to fiber, yeah. I pay $39 for 300mb fiber. But if that’s not available and you have satellite, it’s competitive. Blows the pants of Hughesnet - 40x faster, way lower latency, for a similar price and no data caps.

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    • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m in the middle of a 250k city and have to pay $120/mo for Comcast 900/12 which is realistically 400/12. I praise any serious competitor entering the market because our ISP situation has been fucked for years in a majority of the country.

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