thx for the diabeetus
you know you don’t have to turn it into corn syrup right? that crap isn’t used widely anywhere but in the US
thx for the diabeetus
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xtools@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
coaxil@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
The crazy thing is, every time I have tried a yank drink with corn syrup that my country has the equivalent to without corn syrup, the yank one tastes like ass without fail, and leaves your mouth feeling weird.
Taldan@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Corn syrup is better than our other main use for it: Ethanol
Problem is that we have such extreme subsidies that vast swaths of farmers are now entirely reliant on corn subsidies. We make far more corn than we have any use for because of it
No politician wants to be the one to take away the insane corn subsidies because a whole lot of farmers will be upset, and the American public is generally unaware of how wasteful the subsidies are
Logh@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
What’s wrong with ethanol?
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Seriously, grilled on the cob dipped in butter is the most bestest way to consume this sweet grass!
flora_explora@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
Especially because most of the corn eaten in the rest of the Americas isn’t sweet at all. It’s more equivalent of rice, pasta, potatoes, etc…
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
and turkey, they domesticated the turkey we eat…
mmmm@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
and china, they domesticated chinese food
thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Chinese food as we know, everywhere except China, is a purely American invention. It’s history is really interesting, especially how the restaurant owners of the 80s convinced everyone MSG was poison.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Is that how they bred orange chickens?
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In Turkey corn is called “Egypt” and India is called “land of” either “Turkeys” or “Hinduists” depending on how you chose to interpret it.
I select the first ons.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Mexico didn’t exist back then. Europeans hadn’t conquered and genocided and created states in the Americas.
This was native (indigenous) americans. Nearly 10’000 years before the word Mexico was first uttered.
hide@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Mexica are native
amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
indigeneity and nationality are two different concepts that have nothing to do with each other.
this can range from indigenous Oaxacans who are US citizens to Mexican citizens who are settlers who murder indigenous people in Mexico to steal their land.
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Mexico is a settler colonial state created by Spanish genociders.
The Mexican ruling class is still largely of european descent. It’s well established that lighter skin correlates with status in Mexico.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What did the natives call the region in their language?
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Well before Mexico, it was the Aztecs
wieson@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I don’t know where exactly maize was cultivated, but Mexico comes from city Mexico-Tenochtitlan.
They found millenia old traces of maize in the valley of the Rio Balsa in Xihuatoxtla and also in the valley of Tehuacán.
Something about Coxcatlán phase. Couldn’t find a name of a people who would have been responsible for the domestication.
It’s easiest to say it happened in Mesoamerica.
Katrisia@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
But those native people are still alive and the majority identify as Mexicans (additional to their community’s identity). They’re often bicultural, bilingual, etc.
Are you really going to walk to Xochimilco, where there are still chinampas, and tell the people they should not take credit for them as a society, for example? As crazy as to walk to an ethnic German in Köln and telling him/her that the Köln cathedral and the… Cologne, sorry, whatever, and the food and the stuff is not really their heritage because “you weren’t Germany until…”. WTH? Then all Germans did during the Weimar Republic wasn’t them. All they did as Empires wasn’t them. I hope it’s not an awful analogy.
Like, you’re technically correct, but pragmatically it doesn’t make much sense to me in this case.
amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
thx for the diabeetus
fun fact, that is a eugenicist health scare campaign started by settlers to demonize indigenous peoples whose traditional diets are rich in corn.
famine and genocide are known causes of chronic illness. surviving colonialism is inherently disabling and heightened diabetes rates are a side-effect of that. it makes no scientific sense to me to completely ignore the social determinants of health and blame the diets of entire ethnic groups for their chronic illness rates.
F_State@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
The change from teosinte to maize involved a surprisingly small change to it’s genetic code. Something like 5 genes.
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
So there is hope for people with small dick size?
F_State@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Learn to eat pussy/suck dick or find a partner with an unusually small vagina/bussy.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
To become corn? Very little.
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
To have fantastic sex with a loving partner, including becoming a father if you want?
Absolutely.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I am perfectly average sized, nothing fancy there. I have however been told that my fingers are pure magic. And that’s something you can practice :)
TrollTrollrolllol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They werent mexicans they were mayans, spanish came over and banged em’ turned em into mexicans.
MisterNeon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
tangonov@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Looks a but like Jonathan Davis
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I tell you, there is nothing more Lemmy than people taking jokes/memes super seriously in the comments.
Katrisia@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
The neurodivergent urge…
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ain’t nobody made you fat from that but you. If you were living like the natives were back then, you might be keeping fitter with it
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
And if 90% of it wasn’t GMO’d to hell so that the fructose yield was unnaturally high
lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Ask your local chatbot today about the teosinte emoji
anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
@smorty you’ve been a chatbot before, can you answer this question? what’s teosinte?
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
It feels kinda strange to call them Mexican farmers. Like referring to the people who lived where the US is 9000 years ago “American Farmers”.
Like I guess that’s technically correct in a way. But it still feels weird.
F_State@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
You might say “prehistoric mexican farmers” or “prehistoric farmers of modern day mexico”
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Mesoamerican for what we’ve called the aztecs and Indigenous American for the ones who were genocided by Europe?
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
While some foods are associated with a higher risk of type 2 diabetes, no single ingredients in and of themselves cause diabetes - obesity does. That’s why every fad diet can make a semi-credible claim to have “cured” people’s diabetes. If you lose enough weight, it might go into remission.
And to be clear, none of what I just said is meant to imply a moral, individual failure on the part of anyone who is living/struggling with obesity and diabetes. It’s a complex thing, and like all complex things we can go ahead and blame corporations for it. 👍
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It’s the Coca-Cola, stupid.
pigup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
you re-welcome
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
This shit is the cause of a fair bit of anemia and malnutrition in sub Saharan Africa.
Fuck corn.
amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
that’s like blaming potatoes for deaths caused by green potatoes.
corn doesn’t cause anemia or malnutrition, it’s partly because it’s not processed properly through nixtmalization and partly because of poverty caused by colonialism
KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Potatoes aren’t green by default when ripe.
“this is like blaming guns for killing people, it’s just that they didn’t have the right bullets loaded”
F_State@midwest.social 2 weeks ago
Maize (corn) processed into masa like they did for millennia in the Americas is highly nutritious. White people thought it was something dumb brown people did and didn’t reap the true benefits of the crop
Katrisia@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
God, it’s always the obtuse colonizers…
xep@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I don’t know about highly. It’s better than not processing it.
Etterra@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Slowly. It happened slowly over multiple generations.
Katrisia@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yes! Actually, Mexican farmers are still fighting to preserve their numerous (really numerous, really rich) variety of corn because capitalists and allies are pushing for monopolies (hence, the same seeds), for profitable crops (hence, the best seeds for that purpose), and rare seeds are in danger. It took centuries to get there…
Mexican ecological fights are bloody.
Personal rant. And I do not understand in which state of mind you need to be to kill someone protecting special corn seeds or butterflies. For what? More money that is not needed because there’s enough already in the world? Go take it from the guys that retain it! Leave Nature, and their animals, and the people alone, FFS.
Etterra@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
Corporate greed knows no limits.
FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think it was the Mexican farmers that gave us diabeetus. I’d blame it on the sugar cartels in the US.
xtools@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
that’s a bingo! rest of the world doesn’t use corn syrup
Paragone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
High-fructose maize isn’t an Indegenous invention: that’s a White invention.
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Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can blame the sugar cartels all you want, The truth is if you’re an American, you finance this shit through your taxes. Corporations suck, but what sucks more is that people don’t realize they help pay for their own slow demise in the name of profit.
FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Oh for sure, the broader argument to me would be about sugar subsidies. I don’t support subsidizing the sugar/corn/meat industries. If I had a magic wand I’d much rather those taxes subsidize more nutrient dense foods.
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Fucking ag policies, man.