Submitted 2 weeks ago by Sippeon1@lemmy.world to fediverse@lemmy.world
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This app could potentially supplant Tik Tok overtime. As Tik Tok’s censorship following it’s acquisition by US investors such as Oracle, Silver Lake, and Abu Dhabi-based MGX, and UpScrolled already having questionable ethics, this may be the path forward.
No. No more Vines or Shorts and shit. It’s a fucking problem. Stop it.
Exactly. Ethically sourced brainrot is still brainrot
I hate TikTok too, but it’s not going away without comprehensive legislation regulating social media. Until then, a fediverse alternative that’s not ruled by corporate algorithms would at least be a form of harm reduction. Think of it like a Safe Injection Site program; it’s not great that they’re still using, but at least they’re getting clean needles.
I’ll tell you what, that’s a fair point.
Oh get over yourself
Yes, exactly. It’s just a way to successfully manipulate people to believe how you want them to.
And we don’t want leftists doing that, so let’s make it a moral failing.
Exactly. I have ZERO desire to use this app, or even PixelFed for that matter. Does that platform even have a legit user base or just bots?
That’s cool, still not gonna consume short form media. Idk why people with the desire to have healthy online habits would appreciate this new product. It’ll be slopped with politics and AI in no time like Lemmy is already suffering from.
healthy online habits
This kind of pseudo-science is exactly why TikTok is controlled by zionists, why age-gates are coming to Linux, etc, etc, etc.
People don’t want an addicting, toxic, alienating, depressing, billionaire-owned platform.
They want a addicting, toxic, alienating, depressing, non-billionaire-owned platform … Apparently.
A platform that’s not cleansed of anti-genocide anti-ice content is still a step
Is it so wrong to want to watch a funny video from time to time on the bus? IMO the best thing about loops, piefed or whatever is that there’s so little on here that you can open your app of choice for about 30 minutes to an hour and then be done for the week.
We don’t want a monarchy. We want a spectacle fueled capitalistic society.
Is there some trend in humanity, where it’s like… we don’t care if we suffer so long as it’s not to the benefit of someone else? We gotta build our own suffering machines of culture instead? What’s up with that?
I can’t stand shorts, tick-tock, or any of those videos. The videos I watch are usually comprehensive, longer than 10 mins, and I pause, rewind, slow down ect the video.
You sound like a real saint with super healthy internet habits. Must have huge internet muscles. \s
Short form is cool because it’s like constrained writing.
Tiktok was pretty great while it was just silly videos.\ But it’s not short form anymore so it’s full of political essays and propaganda.
I kinda hope that loops is more like vine than tiktok or vertical YouTube. But it’ll probably be up to the instance to govern video length.
Clone the brain rot, that’ll save you…
I mean, at least you will have the brainrot without profiling, censorship and potentially clients that make it easier to get off the brainrot
What is the point of recreating media format designed exclusively to grab attention as much as possible and monetize it?
I’d say it’s to help replace unhealthy addictions with a platform that’s smaller and less easy to fall into infinite scroll rabbit holes. Like nic-patches to stop smoking.
the short video format was designed as being additive,
lmao. cool story.
and monetize it
Have you used TikTok? If you had in the beginning, it was full of people doing history videos, diy, etc. I suspect it will be something like that. I don’t use it anymore, but it was great in the beginning,.I suspect that if you’re on Loops, especially at first, monetizing it isn’t your first thing. The meme communities are probably going to go nuts.
It still is, it just depends on what kind of content you engage with. People on reddit/lemmy LOVE to hate on short form video content but it isn’t inherently destructive or evil IMO., it just depends on how you interact with it.
“What’s the point of creating something people want to use?”
This is why most of you aren’t designers or creators.
People also want to use drugs that cause addiction. Is that a good reason to design and create more of them?
To use it to deprogram the next generation of fascist
Short text can be as afdictive as short videos yrt one seems ok and the other not
People are really out here enraged about videos being too short. Total baseless nonsense.
Is there porn yet? I’ve found the prevalence of pornography to be a good indicator of how free the speech is on any platform. If you can’t see a titty, it’s probably pretty canned.
absolute fucking gooner logic
Its the goon canary in the goon shaft
Not sure if users can host their own servers yet, but once that becomes available then I don’t see what would stop you.
UpScrolled already having questionable ethics
Which questionable ethics? I’m out of the loop.
I’ve seen other people on Mastodon/Bluesky mention that the site takes an ‘self-censorship’ approach to moderation, so there’s a bunch of far right people doing Nazi stuff on there.
I have been on UpScrolled for about 23-25 days and have not seen any Nazi stuff. However, I keep my feed and the people I follow mainly about Anime and Palestine.
If there’s indeed Nazi stuff on it, I hope the developer removes it. Zionism and Nazi are both insanely shit ideologies that should have never come to existence.
That mixed with not having an algorithm, I’ve seen a lot of sexual stuff I was not looking for.
There is absolutely no ethical consumption under capitalism.
I don’t know what upscrolled is, but if it’s not federated then who cares?
yeah I’m not sure Upscrolled is going to be an improvement over Tik Tok in the long run in any way. Not open source or federated, probably will be even easier for Trump-supporting billionaires to buy it than TT for example.
I don’t know what upscrolled is, but if it’s not federated then who cares?
You care enough to write about the specific app that, you don’t know about.
Your account is 4 days old, that says enough. I won’t respond to you after this comment.
Seems already pretty solid. Was testing a bit in the last days: https://loops.video/@ordos Still very few users. But this could change as soon as the app is available in the app stores.
It would be amazing to ditch the company control and so. The main problem is that it’s difficult to get users to join it. I mean just look at how many people still use reddit and discord.
It’s a chicken and an egg problem. We don’t have to worry about what other people do, only ourselves.
Yeah, that’s why it’s so hard to ditch those major platforms. Because you could join an alternative but it would likely mean not being able to interact with many things, not sure if I would make that trade-off.
And Twitter
That’s… maybe not the greatest screenshot to use if you want to support them. The nearly invisible, black-on-dark-blue heading kinda makes it look vibe coded
Might just look that way because it’s using the default theme of Tailwind CSS, which is coincidentally the weapon of choice for sloptimized vibe code.
I wonder if it will function more like Vine?
Maybe it’s because I’m a decade older now, but Vine seemed awesome and I would jump on it for 10-20 minutes a day and have no problem putting it down, even forgetting to check it a week at a time.
I haven’t touched tik tok because it seems like it is much more toxic and addictive in comparison.
I don’t think they made it addictive. Making an app addictive requires a lot of labour with people from different areas.
Tbf Lemmy is still lacking on many things like media(comics, games, tv shows, cartoons, anime/Manga etc), Reddit right now is THE place aside from niche sites specific to each median, but as for Discord I agree, alternatives are not so hard there… Lemmy is getting there though.
Use Reddit for reading only; read and contribute to Lemmy.
“Get in loser we are going to open-source a turd”
Yup and it’s closed source, it’s of course likely to be more lax for a time than Tik Tok&Instagram until it takes over…
What is closed source ? Aren’t those up to date?
github.com/joinloops/loops-server#license
Loops Server is open-sourced software licensed under the AGPL license.
That’s misleading, they plan on being open sourced according to pubs:
Similar to how Mastodon offers an open source, distributed version of X, the fediverse is getting its own TikTok competitor. This week, an app called Loops began accepting signups on its new platform for sharing short, looping videos. Still in the early stages, Loops is not yet open sourced, nor has it completed its integration with ActivityPub, the protocol that powers Mastodon, Pixelfed, PeerTube, and other federated apps.
However, both those efforts are in the works and when complete, will allow Loops to add another layer of social activity to the growing open social web known as the fediverse, which now has north of 11.6 million users and over 1 million monthly active users. (Mastodon accounts for roughly 65% of that activity.) Growth in this space has also encouraged other apps to adopt ActivityPub, like social magazine app Flipboard and Meta’s Threads. The latter is not yet fully integrated but already has more than 200 million monthly active users.
Wait, what’s this if it’s closed source? github.com/joinloops/loops-server
My apologies, I called UpScrolled closed source because it is, not Loops.
They’ve been promising it will be open source for a year now.
Loops has a lot of bugs, but my biggest issue with it is the video quality is awful for anything with lots of motion, especially moving water. If I wanted videos without motion I’d take a picture. When I asked dansup about this his reply was “we’re happy with the quality”, glad he is, no one else is though. The app has had more “coming soon” announcements than anything actually materializing. I appreciate his vision and effort but not his delivery, and dear lawd his egotistical posts, yikes. I would love to see Loops turn into what he keeps promising but so far, it hasn’t.
I felt my back break when I went on the app and sorted by retro and saw stuff I didn’t think was that old.
UpScrolled is also for-profit right?
What is “questionable” about UpScrolled’s ethics is that it is pro-Palestine. So basically the same reason that TikTok came under attack: it wasn’t promoting Zionist voices and it wasn’t suppressing anti-Zionist voices.
and UpScrolled already having questionable ethics, this may be the path forward.
I am definitely Out of the loop on this.
My problem with loops is I can only scroll four videos before it stops scrolling. No matter what. I’ve tested it a few times on different devices because I wanted to try moving friends off Tik Tok.
I can’t figure out why it just stops.
What is Tik Tok overtime?
I guess we should get rid of sweet foods as well, as people can get addicted to that and it can lead to obesity.
If this is another tool using ActivityPub, I’m gonna get mad.
Microsoft will take its name.
For 12 throw that might be kinda hard. Newish account to promote loops
Well this app looks like total shit.
ScoobyDoom@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It’s getting there, but still needs a good amount of ui fixes. The below mentioned are my personal issues with the app.
All this being said I still use it. They are making progress and I hope they keep going.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It needs an app
And it needs to render uploaded videos to the maximum allowed file size. Regular people don’t know how to make their videos smaller. I only managed to do it by uploading to you tube the then downloading it from there. Then it was small enough to to be uploaded to loops
Also, easier sign up and more content
schwim@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
There is an app both for apple and android. Just scroll down the page a bit: https://joinloops.org/join-the-beta
Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
loops has a app if you are talking about them, I just had to uninstall the previous to install the newest as it’s been awhile since I’ve used it.
lambipapp@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’m a developer looking for a new pet project. This sound line a fun challenge :) open source multi platform compose app. I might just start it today
ScoobyDoom@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
It has an app, it is kinda weird how you get it though. When you click tk join it gives you the choice of app. It’s not on an app store for android. Not sure about apple. So for me updates dont seem to happen to it that I know of.