- The AI-driven memory shortage doesn’t just affect PCs
- More capacity is coming, but not before 2027
- Low-margin budget products are likely to be hit hardest
Here’s an idea… let’s stop. Let’s just fucking stop with AI?
The AI explosion isn't just hurting the prices of computers and consoles – it's coming for TVs and audio tech too
Submitted 3 days ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
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Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 days ago
votes for MynameisAllen for president
Now if only we knew their name…
fartsparkles@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Pretty sure it’s My Name Is All En.
Dr En En En.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 days ago
There’s too much imaginary money in AI that tech bros are stealing.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Good. Maybe we’ll get dumb TVs again.
ViscloReader@lemmy.world 3 days ago
That’s the thing I keep telling people around me. It’s not only RAM. Too many critical components have ram.
If you increase RAM, you increase computer prices. (And I’m talking ALL kinds of computer, from microcomputers to desktop to servers)
If you increase computer prices you increase costs for almost everything
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
People also insist that their fridges and cock-rings needs RAM these days
riskable@programming.dev 3 days ago
No shit. There’s easier ways to open the fridge.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I was thinking how this will affect cars, all of them have a bigass tablet in the middle nowadays
SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I don’t even fucking use the smart TV functions as it is. Fuck all that noise.
artyom@piefed.social 3 days ago
2027 sounds right. No way these fabs don’t know this shit is temporary, so unlikely they’ll increase production.
Sabin10@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Unfortunately it’s the people between the manufacturers and the consumers that think this current iteration of AI is the future. They even seem to think we want it and can’t wait to pay them for it.
artyom@piefed.social 3 days ago
No one thinks that. Not the hardware OEMs, not the consumers, not the CEOs, not even the investors. It’s all just a grift to see how high it can get before it pops.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
I 'member when headphones were just a copper wire to a magnet dressed in plastic, and none of this garbage required memory. Can we go back to that age? Thanks.
TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Apple Earpods are the shit:
✅ Cost like € 15 ✅ No battery to charge ✅ Sounds great ✅ Comes with Usb-C or 3.5 mm audio connectors ✅ Superior microphone compared to most wireless options ✅ Great for situational awareness
If you want noise cancellation and even better audio quality, you can get Chinese “in-ear monitors” (IEM) for € 15–infinity with passive noise cancellation (blocking your ears).
notreallyhere@lemmy.world 3 days ago
its coming for your babies
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
cf. Children of Men
sundray@lemmus.org 3 days ago
solrize@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Why do TV’s and audio gear use memory? TV’s ok I can sort of understand a little, but audio? That’s still analog right? Or anyway mostly analog.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
All digital devices will use some amount of memory. Audio devices are all digital these days and only use a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) to generate the actual audio waveform from a raw sample stream.
On something like a standalone audio amp there still has to be the whole backend to store codec information, menus and settings, and a whole host of other controls and audio processing features that are likely implemented on top of a basic OS and not directly written to a microcontroller. There’s more memory than you think.
b_tr3e@feddit.org 3 days ago
“Codec informatiom” is in ROM or implemented in hardware directly. Even studio quality audio interfaces that are DSP comtrolled will need only relatively small amounts of RAM; relatively slow memory for variable space and slightly faster mem for buffering. Both in the megabyte range and far from the speed that GPUs or AI require.
Damage@feddit.it 3 days ago
I doubt headphone’s MCU uses DDR5 tho
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 3 days ago
This is probably all like stand-alone Bluetooth speakers and such that have little processors in them. Analog hifi shit isn’t going be able to use AI for anything except maybe receivers or something. I guess there might be a use case for using it to balance to a room and set up EQ or something, but these guys don’t seem interested in doing anything that would require actual work to develop a real product.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Depends on if you have analog cabled headphones, like the Meze Empyrians or the Philips X2HR Fidelio, then they are analog, but wireless or even digital headphones with USB/Lightning has ram.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Just like those popular 3d tvs right?
coherent_domain@infosec.pub 3 days ago
Question: will AI eventually hurt computer chips? Like memory companies, the TSMC also only have finite production capacity.
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Yes
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
So start making more dumb TVs and speakers. That way they don’t need much memory.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I just want a straight up monitor with no built in wifi or Bluetooth or even speakers.
Just display the image I want it to when I want it to.
galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Literally this. Let me use my own fucking box and my own goddamn pc how I want with big monitor. Also put DP on it fuck HDMI. I don’t need trackers in my bloody tv OS. My tv has an OS!!! That’s ridiculous. Sorry this is one of those things I’ve always been super pissed about.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 days ago
Sceptre
riskable@programming.dev 3 days ago
Every modern monitor has some memory in it. They have timing controllers and image processing chips that need DRAM to function. Not much, but it is standard DDR3/DDR4 or LPDDR RAM.
LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I use old dumb tvs as monitors. They don’t have the best picture, but are better and cheaper than anything currently for sale.
YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 3 days ago
But how will they play ads‽
Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 3 days ago
Man I’m really dreading buying a new TV. Been going strong with my plasma for years. I don’t need any “smart” features in a tv. From what I understand you either get a good TV or a “dumb” TV, pick one.
blitzen@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
But a good tv, and don’t connect it to the internet. Apple TV or Shield device.
chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Yeah, pretty much. Any decent display on a TV is gonna have all the shit you don’t want, but you can (at least for now) just not connect your smart TV to the internet. You;'d have a good TV with the “smarts” neutered. But you’re still paying for it.
It’s a bit like the ATSC broadcast stack. You likely aren’t using it, but the industry still makes you pay for it (and it’s not cheap).
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Dumbtv
ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Linear components like power amplifiers are made from the same material as digital circuitry, and they use a lot more of it.