Stop using mysql, you have postgres.
Stop using MySQL in 2026, it is not true open source
Submitted 2 months ago by otto@programming.dev to selfhosted@lemmy.world
https://optimizedbyotto.com/post/reasons-to-stop-using-mysql/
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slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
And mariaSQL
call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Hell, even SQLite is good enough for most small projects.
immobile7801@piefed.social 2 months ago
FWIW mariadb was bought by a private equity firm in 2024
herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Didn’t Postgresql effectively win the database wars? Why use anything else?
dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Postgres or sqlite are the only ones I ever consider nowadays.
Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
If only the upgrade process wasn’t so annoying with postgres…
Hawk@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
See also duckdb and clickhouse for OLAP of course.
melfie@lemy.lol 2 months ago
Oracle sees itself as an activist organization, one whose goal is the advancement of the Israeli colonization project. Safra Catz, the company’s Israeli-American CEO, bluntly explained that any employees uncomfortable with supporting a genocide should simply quit. “We are not flexible regarding our mission, and our commitment to Israel is second to none”
Hmm, MySQL or PostgreSQL—how will we ever decide which one to pick.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
wow, I didn’t need any more reasons not to support Oracle but thanks anyway
MrSoup@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
MariaDB >>>
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Who are “they”?
We use MariaDB at work but I don’t know why it was originally chosen over PostgreSQL, as that was before my time.
MrSoup@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Blogs and forums back then when I looked it up.
Can’t remember exactly where (since it’s been a long time ago), but I’m sure more than someone claimed it.
Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 months ago
If you don’t want to use postgresql for some obscure reason use MariaDB real open source MySQL drop in replacement.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Are there real advantages to using either MySQL or MariaDB instead of PostgreSQL?
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
No. But there are a number of advantages of using PostgreSQL over the others.
Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Yeah,
I did a speed test comparison between Oracle MySQL and MariaDB MySQL,
MariaDB is about 10 times faster.FYI: When Oracle bought MySQL a lot of developers left and created MariaDB, so the brains behind the project moved, and in the meantime Oracle did a great job of fucking things up.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
That’s not what I asked. I asked about a comparison of both of them to PostgreSQL.
roguelazer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
MySQL often has moderately higher performance (particularly for workloads where you want your data clustered by PK, which is how InnoDB is natively structured) and its replication system is much more flexible than either of PostgreSQL’s.
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
Is it true?
Postgres with correct fillfactor, it doesn’t create new pages and works very fast.
Replication in MySQL always sucked ass, only received synchronous replication in some new edition, and that also didn’t sound great.
Postgres has logstream and logical replication, both of them can be set to various levels of synchronicity, and logical replication is configurable at least as well as MySQL is in terms of which data is sent.
illusionist@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Depends on the task but for general usage there is no big difference. You would choose one over the other if you need one for work.
kumi@feddit.online 2 months ago
Operating and securing Postgres is a steeper learning curve.
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
Is Maria that much better than MySQL?
Cause that one is absolute shit, very difficult to maintain, and requires lots of config changes and even replicas can disconnect when something’s not 100% ok.
I will take Postgres over any other DB any day of the week.
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
If you’re constrained by resources (CPU/RAM).
There’s a reason most web hosts usually have mariadb and not postgres.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe that once every 2 years when you upgrade to major version it does it automatically? You save 15 mins every 2 years?
800XL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What year is this? No one should be using Mysql since MariaDB came about.
BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Why would anyone ever choose mysql over postgres?
Scrollone@feddit.it 2 months ago
MySQL has been the “default” choice for a long time for PHP programmers. I don’t know why.
whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
It used to be free with less of a barrier to entry than poatgrea.
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
Tutorials mostly.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
No one should be using MySQL since 2010.
UnknownMp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Perhaps MariaDB is a better choice.
unknownmp@mastodon.social 2 months ago
ikidd@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What rock do you live under if you’re using MySQL over MariaDB?
lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Older people about to return to programming, and most of the online tutorials they have are about 20 years old, having no idea an alternative exists.
dan@upvote.au 2 months ago
MariaDB is not always a drop-in replacement. There’s several features that MySQL has that MariaDB doesn’t, especially related to the optimizer (for some types of queries, MySQL will give you a more optimized execution plan compared to MariaDB). It’s also missing some newer data types, like JSON (which indexes the individual fields in JSON objects to make filtering on them more efficient).
MariaDB and MySQL are both fine. Even though MySQL doesn’t receive as much development any more, it doesn’t really need it. It works fine. If you want a better database system, switch to PostgreSQL, not MariaDB.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
That’s why I moved to MSSQL
/s
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
But but but, it has the word “my” in it
/s
folekaule@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Both MySQL and MariaDb are named after the developer’s daughters.
androidul@lemmy.world 2 months ago
when is Oracle gonna go Broadcom mode on MySQL, still waiting for the moment 🍿
bored_boar_onboard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Clearly you can’t use MySQL because it isn’t webscale.
fizzle@quokk.au 2 months ago
I didn’t know this was ever in question?
Also stop calling it “my sequel”
SneakyWeasel@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Wamp anyone? (I think thats what its called, im at work and cant check my pc) Or am i the odd one out.
ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Apache Phoenix: allow me to introduce myself
otto@programming.dev 2 months ago
In case you are Czech, there is a translation at root.cz/…/prestante-uz-pouzivat-mysql-neni-to-sku…
Glad to see more translations show up!
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 months ago
tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 2 months ago
Dude. You never finish.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
MySQL belongs to Oracle. That’s literally all you need to.know in order to avoid it.
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FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
how did the joke go? “one rich asshole called larry ellison”?
ijhoo@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
what’s the joke part?
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Isn’t that the point of Postgresql. It’s basically an open source version of MySQL.
I’m sure there are some proprietary nonsense that MySQL has, but I’ve never needed it in 17 years
sobchak@programming.dev 2 months ago
Postgres is basically an open source version of Oracle DB. Much more featureful than MySQL. I believe Oracle bought MySQL just to kill it.
Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
That is an insult to PostgreSQL. PostgreSQL was fully featured relational database even before it implemented SQL. It started much earlier tha MySQL.
And MySQL didn’t have proper transactions or data integrity constraints (including foreign keys) for long time, while calling itself an ‘SQL database’.
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
MariaDB
Psythik@lemmy.world 2 months ago
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Hatred of Oracle predates “cancelling” by decades. Oracle is and has always been one of, if not the most disgusting and vicious companies in tech. They kill everything they touch.
If you need a political component, then Oracle = Larry Ellison, but Oracle hate predates and supercedes the American political slide into fascism.
non_burglar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
When they bought Sun, they:
iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 2 months ago
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34249580
forrgott@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Why would you keep track? Can’t form your own opinions?!
And what the fuck hasn’t Oracle done? Like, seriously, they’ve been a known bad actor for literally decades now…
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
“Lets use Oracle DB for that.”
Statements made by the utterly deranged.
fizzle@quokk.au 2 months ago
I don’t know the actual reason, but I personally get a bad vibe every time I see the logo because usually it means I’m trying to install or fix some java bullshit, which never goes well.
0x0@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Have you been living under a rock? Think 2010 for starters…
Auli@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
People have hated Oracle for decades.