Brave new world has Soma.
The only science fiction in 1984 by Orwell is that there is a drug that could make you "Happy"
Submitted 1 day ago by Krauerking@lemy.lol to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 9 hours ago
Krauerking@lemy.lol 9 hours ago
Yes, this has been covered. I made a mistake and rather than edit it I just left it up with my shame. And edited the body text.
Still stand by there is nothing science fiction in 1984 anymore and also that euphoria pills are not happiness. Just 2 separate thoughts my brain mashed together poorly.
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Gotcha.
Yes, 1984 is 100% how everything operates now. Anyone who doesn’t see that is pretty dumb.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
This isn’t reddit, you can edit titles.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There are definitely drugs that make you happy.
kamenlady@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I love drugs, but, like another commenter pointed out, feeling happy is different than being happy.
I was happy once, some long time ago - nowadays i sometimes make myself feel happy.
I’d love to be happy again, in exchange for never having access to drugs again.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Euphoric. Drugs that make you euphoric.
Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Bro clearly never taken molly.
IronBird@lemmy.world 1 day ago
lol, and a dozen others to.
we have like 2 entire classes of drug specifically for this purpose…
Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 day ago
Tf you mean?
Ecstacy exists for real.
Dasus@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Yeah and that’s not even a joke.
I’m gonna use more pretentious words just to reiterate the values of this succinct and correct comment.
Serotonergic drugs, also sometimes known as empathogens or entactogens (enhancing empathy and tactile sensation) have been shown to honestly be able to take care of depression terminally ill people have, for up to months, with a single dose.
Ofc there should be therapists as well, it’s not as simple as giving someone unfamiliar drugs telling them to eat them and that’s it. No for the terminally ill for instance you’d want a therapist there to help work out the experience of the session.
But for anyone somewhat healthy and young and looking to experience something like that, just go to a rave. Can’t tell you which though, as stimulants also have the people who use dopaminergic drugs and those don’t exactly make one happy.
Or just read up on what mdma is how to use it safely and look up some artist you like from the EDM scene (so that itd be higher chances of other people rolling as well) and go.
Genuinely the happiest nights of my life some of them. Some not as much, went a bit beyond therapy. Lol.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
Rumor has it that molly is typically laced with some nasty shit these days.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Read the fucking book
Please read the fucking book
Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 day ago
I did. I just misremembered the plot and hoped everyone was so apathetic cause drugs.
Sorry to have failed you.
BugKilla@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This mea culpa is not quite as filling as it should be. Need some deep face down arse up genuflexion.
Just kidding.
The fact you owned the mistake is enough.
Both books are excellent
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
We are MUCH MUCH closer to the BNW/Fahrenheit 451 dystopias than 1984.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Everyone talks to their phones instead of typing now, and like microphones and cameras are everywhere.
And we have let all infrastructure start to fail as long as it isnt a shiny thing rich people interact with.I dunno man its getting pretty 1984.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
1984 forced all of that.
Brave New World, people LOVE it and can’t imagine any other way to live.
Brave New World is the nightmare dystopia we CHOOSE, not the one that gets forced on us.
DomeGuy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
FWIW, the biggest sci-fi in 1984 wasn’t big brother or the proto-internet. It was a predictive model of human behavior that could perfectly predict individual behavior.
That, and a competent tyrannical regime.
(My personal headcannon is that “Airstrip one” or whatever they called Britain is the North Korea of its world, and everyone else just ignores them.)
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
Someone’s never had X
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
There are drugs that can make you happy or emotionally numb. They tend to have different effects for different people, but I can definitely imagine science plausibly making a drug that makes everybody happy or emotionally numb. For me, marijuanna makes me emotionally numb and laugh at inappropriate times.
panchzila@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Th drug soma was from another dystopian novel. Brave new world by Huxley.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Yeah I thought I remembered a drug in 1984 but it is just gin and cigarettes and everyone’s brain making them apathetic.
So even closer to reality except for gen z.
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 22 hours ago
While we’re discussing dystopian sci-fi happy pills, I just want to mention The Giver. In that book, people are given drugs after they hit puberty, to suppress sexual desire and other emotions
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I got real happy last weekend, and it wasn’t on life!
7uWqKj@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m afraid you’re confusing it with Brave New World
OmegaMouse@pawb.social 1 day ago
Yes this. And is a drug that makes you happy really science fiction? There are plenty that work on dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin receptors. Though I suppose happiness is something more nebulous and complex than a handful of chemicals.
the_q@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Feeling happy and being happy are 2 different things.
PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Thought this too. Soma. No idea why ive remembered that so long, I never even finished BNW and put it down almost a decade ago
Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Yeah sorry, the drug in 1984 is apparently just morphine and drinking yourself to death.
Wild how they both are so dystopian but 1984 is just straight up political fiction with like no SciFi and my brain was trying to add more
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m about to finish reading 1984 for the first time.
Spoiler:
Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 day ago
Yeah, i rembered him going to the prole neighborhood and for some reason always put that into brave new world context from the apathy and squalor.
Plus definitely not a lack of drugs in 1984 just far more mundane.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Maybe the Chestnut tree was really just some sativa man.