Google's latest reason to give them $14/month: "Watch in faster playback speeds with Premium"

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cypherpunks@lemmy.ml⁩ to ⁨aboringdystopia@lemmy.world⁩

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cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/40372957

fyi:

github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp lets you download videos (from youtube and also hundreds of other sites)

for desktop, mpv.io is free and lets you watch youtube (or any other video) at even more and faster speeds than youtube premium does, among many other features

for android, newpipe.net lets you play youtube in the background (and download videos, and block ads, …)

ublockorigin.com blocks ads everywhere (and yes it does still work on youtube, at least in firefox anyway)

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MoreZombies@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I am not against paying for services to unlock extra features, but I utterly despise the way YouTube premium is entirely composed of features we had but they took away.

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- Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How would you suggest they get people to pay?
  
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  - hendu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Come up with new features that people would be willing to pay for.
    
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  - 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    People pay for features they want. YouTube did a bait and switch and launched their service with all the features that were expected, such as running in the background, no ads, fast forwarding and everything else.
    
    Now when the service is a monopoly, they are removing features instead of adding things that are worth extra money.
    
    Its a bait and switch.
    
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- TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Years ago I understand why streaming services want to implement paid subscription. But now, I heard that even on premium you will still get ads! It is just milking more money at this stage!
  
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scytale@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s why there’s like a second or two of a delay before the video plays when I watch on a browser with uBO. The connection isn’t slow, they’re just purposely slowing it down.

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- MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  When they say ‘faster playback speeds’ they don’t mean faster connection speeds, they mean watching at 1.5x normal speed (or faster).
  
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  - himitsu@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Up to 4x
    
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- lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Sometimes they even show an “Experiencing interruptions?” popup just to be extra dickheads. I am patient, I can wait.
  
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- saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  In case anyone’s wondering, scytale’s ad blocker.
  
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- Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  its not an issue after it loads, and sometimes the “delay” doesnt activate on other videos.
  
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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Play video in background

Was such a shamelessly sleazy was to try and twist arms into using their service. Nevermind that it just spawned a thousand different 3rd party tools for getting around this annoying limiter. It just felt like a huge red flag, indicating they were going to use their native app to be fucking annoying to their clients going forward.

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- joyjoy@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  The lite version does not include this. It also still shows ads on music and shorts.
  
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- EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I don’t understand. I play videos in the background all the time.
  
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  - bstix@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Not on free YouTube you don’t.
    
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CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Because where would we be if we couldn‘t CONSUME ENDLESS SLOP AT FOUR TIMES SPEED?! Seriously who needs this? This is sickening.

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- PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If you’re watching lectures from someone who talks really slow.
  
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- dohpaz42@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Slop comment aside, a lot of people with ADHD listen to videos at 1.5x or more speed because that’s how their brain works.
  
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  - HeyJoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I watch a bunch of channels that are mostly talking and are 20+ minutes. I always put it on 1.5x speed and its barely noticeable and you get used to it. It saves me time without any loss of what was being shown so I consider it a win.
    
    1 question, this feature already exists for non paying costumers, does this mean its going to be a pay for option only soon? That will piss me off…
    
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  - AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That makes faster playback a disability affordance, for legal reasons
    
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  - CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    1.5x is totally legitimate but Youtube advertises 4x speed. They put 4x speed behind a paywall. That‘s ridiculous.
    
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- Creat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Try watching videos by “explaining computers”. Actually pretty good content (mostly on single board computers like raspberry pi), but he talks glacially. Normally I watch at 1.5x, this channel is one of just a few where I need to up it to 2x.
  
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  - PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I usually just skip to the part where he reveals the price of the amazingly cheap sbc, then click off when it’s definitely not cheap.
    
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  - samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  When you think about it, it’s not really that different from learning to read faster, which is a valued skill.
  
  (There’s an argument to be made that for many things you’d be better off reading rather than watching YouTube vids at 4x but let’s not focus on that.)
  
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- CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Tutorials where they are going through stuff you 90% understand already and you just need to find that juicy remaining 10%.
  
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- Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Have you seen people who complain about written jnfo his video info? Its because they can read thr info faster than listening to it be said. But if you speed it up to 2x or 3x then it becomes the same as reading in terms of time. You get used to it over time. I can’t listen to anything at 1x speed anymore.
  
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  - Carnelian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ve thought about dipping my toes into this but I don’t want to start getting antsy when people talk IRL
    
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ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
For anyone wondering, only 4x speed is behind premium:

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- yum@lemmy.eco.br ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Do people even use that?
  
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  - Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Who’s got enough hours in the day to only watch reaction videos of teenagers eating foreign chocolate bars at only double speed?
    
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  - Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Consuuuuuume
    
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  - JigglySackles@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I use 2x on certain videos where some talks really slow and I want them to get on with the explanation but don’t want to scrub through it trying to hit the right timestamp.
    
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- LarsIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  On mobile I can increment it by 0.05 up to 4x
  
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Professorozone@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Typical. Take it away, then charge to bring it back.

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YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
My boss uses a VPN and some other clandestine methods to subscribe via India, so he pays the equivalent of about £3 per month for premium.

I gave it a try, but could never quite manage. You need to fully turn off location services, use an India registered Gmail and pay via a credit card if some kind. I think you also need a registered address, but he just used one for a random hotel in Bangladesh.

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- GandalftheBlack@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  … Or you could just use an ad blocker
  
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  - 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Admittedly, the creators get extra revenue from you using premium, so that approach is very valid in my eyes.
    
    Also, ublock now blocks a list that includes the tracker for youtube views, if I remember right, so peopld using ublock don’t even count towards the creator’s views now :-/ this may be outdated now
    
    Donate to your favourite creators either way! And use patreon not the youtube BS because youtube takes a massive cut!!!
    
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  - TRock@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Doesn’t work on TVs tho
    
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  - YeahIgotskills2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Can you do that on a firestick?
    
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- guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  VPN to Albania. No ads on free YouTube.
  
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krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I’ve never liked YouTube.

I didn’t watch it when it was free. I didn’t watch it when it had ads. I don’t watch it now. It is bad. Most of the content on it is bad.

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- KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Super hot take that.
  
  You do realise that there isn’t just one kind of content right?
  
  Not trying to change your mind, I just feel like that’s a very narrow minded view of what is a vast wealth of human knowledge in video form.
  
  I mainly watch tech/science stuff, super interesting and definitely has taught me stuff. Theres years worth of educational content on there.
  
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  - TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Same. I mostly watch informative and educational videos on YouTube.
    
    I am mostly on Nebula these days but it’s problem not to avoid YT because most content creators are still on the platform.
    
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  - stickly@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I feel like you can both be right, the sheer number of videos can have years of educational content while still being mostly SEO influencers and money leeching junk. If you go on it with a completely fresh account you’re going to see a bunch of brain rot before you tune your algorithm into good content.
    
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- baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I’m with you brother. Are there gems? I’m sure. For example, how to repair things. But 99% of it is garbage.
  
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- Ashiette@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I never really liked youtube. But you’ve got to admit that sometimes, when you have a very niche tech problem, there is always one indian making just the right video for you.
  
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  - krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’ll admit that once upon a time someone would have written up the solution somewhere and now it’s buried in a fucking video.
    
    The existence of this shitty platform makes the internet worse.
    
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  - Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    This is the worst part of YouTube. Just read the manual.
    
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
even better adblock. unless they aggressively go after anti-adblock, like preventing the page from loading there arnt getting new subscribers.

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zebidiah@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
YouTube is the only subscription I maintain month to month. Its worth the 13 bucks for nomads and a music service to me

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- possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Respectfully, ew.
  
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- Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Same, the algorithm seems to do recommendations a little better too but that might be my imagination.
  
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Burninator05@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
How does playing videos faster than x1 affect creators i actually want to watch? The Spiffing Brit did a thing a while ago about doubling their view time (and thus engagement) by having people watch the videos at 1/2 speed. If that was true it makes sense that watching it at 2x would only count as a half watch even if you watched all of it.

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DeICEAmerica@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
They are throttling top VPN ips, too. Can’t watch videos without them constantly buffering

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- harmbugler@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Last night for the first time a video wouldn’t play for me at all, with a new error: VPN detected. Other videos were fine.
  
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muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
PipePipe still works

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PenguinMage@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Got a 3 month free trial of it, honestly love the things I used to have. But it still stutters like shit and is a garbage feed of shit I don’t watch. I will not be paying when it’s used up.

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- Briguy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How’s your Internet connection? I never get stuttering issues
  
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  - PenguinMage@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    More internet than I need, snd thankfully not spectrum. Not an internet issue.
    
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Asidonhopo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I pay for premium to get rid of ads. Not convinced that adblockers will be a permanent and privacy friendly option but havent really explored it. But anything faster than maybe 2.35x is unintelligible, and not worth usint due to sound “tearing” issues (youtube lets you adjust it in 0.05x increments)

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guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
TizenTube Cobalt or Smart Tube on AndroidTV

github.com/reisxd/TizenTubeCobalt

github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube

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